Pushing rice and noodles on us?

[Sara]

Seems like every single time Joe goes to dialysis he tells me they tell him, 'eat more rice, eat more pasta.'  He already eats big servings of rice a few times a week - why does he need to eat more?  Is there something important that I'm not aware of?

[angieskidney]

Seems like every single time Joe goes to dialysis he tells me they tell him, 'eat more rice, eat more pasta.'  He already eats big servings of rice a few times a week - why does he need to eat more?  Is there something important that I'm not aware of?

as far as I know it is because WHITE rice and NO-YOLK noodles are the best for a dialysis patient's limited diet. Basically everything else is bad even if in the least.

[Panda_9]

Are they concerned about weight loss? I find it weird they are pushing rice and pasta, considering it contains a good bit of fluid!

[Sara]

No he actually needs to lose weight.  That's why I find it so weird.  That and he's diabetic so he doesn't really need to be eating additional carbs.

[Panda_9]

I would ignore them then!

[Rerun]

Sara, you call that dietition and ask her.  They push rice and noodles on me because she says I need to gain weight and rice and noodles will fill me up.  She also pushes Couscous.  I hate rice and noodles (unless in Lasagna) 

[Sara]

LOL Yeah but the only things good with noodles are the 'bad' stuff (tomatoes, cheese, etc.)  I make a mean lasagna!

[goofynina]

"Who's with me on going to Sara's pad for dinner" raise your hand......yummmm,
i can bring the tequila, lol,

[Rerun]

"Who's with me on going to Sara's pad for dinner" raise your hand......yummmm,
i can bring the tequila, lol,

Yeah, tequila has those little glasses so we will be watching our fluid intake.   

[angieskidney]

No he actually needs to lose weight.  That's why I find it so weird.  That and he's diabetic so he doesn't really need to be eating additional carbs.

I think sometimes they ONLY think about a renal diet and NOT the diabetic one so you should mention that. And in my experience ONLY listen to the DIETICIAN. The nurses don't always know but the dietician will!

[goofynina]

Now you got the idea Rerun... So who's down???  each shot glass is approx. 2 oz.  sheeeeit, we can each have 4 and be feeeeeeling gooooood     ARRRRRIBA......

1 Tequila
2 Tequila
3 Tequila
FLOOR..........

[jdat]

He needs to be honest and tell them he got the point the first time around, because seriously it gets really old hearing the same thing week after week 

But I'm not teaching anyone anything here 

[Panda_9]

What about pasta with a cream based sauce?? Cream has negligable potassium, not sure about phosphate though. I make a nice creamy bacon pasta with pesto. I normally use tomato pesto but it would also be nice with basil pesto which should be fine for Dx diet.

[angieskidney]

What about pasta with a cream based sauce?? Cream has negligable potassium, not sure about phosphate though. I make a nice creamy bacon pasta with pesto. I normally use tomato pesto but it would also be nice with basil pesto which should be fine for Dx diet.

ANY cream based sauce WILL have phosphate.

[Panda_9]

Bugger, I wasnt real sure. Is there anything dialysis patients CAN eat? 

[angieskidney]

Bugger, I wasnt real sure. Is there anything dialysis patients CAN eat? 

white unflavoured rice, apples, water (within reason to limits) and eggwhites (NOT the yolks!!) which are good in protein.

[BigSky]

Seems like every single time Joe goes to dialysis he tells me they tell him, 'eat more rice, eat more pasta.'  He already eats big servings of rice a few times a week - why does he need to eat more?  Is there something important that I'm not aware of?

Not sure about their logic.  You might ask them the logic behind it.  Even though a person may need to lose weight they actually be malnourshied. 

[Epoman]

I eat what ever I want, BUT in moderation and I take my binders. Live a little, I LOVE good food.

[Panda_9]

That might be ok for you Epoman, but its not suitable for everyone. I am a very good example of that! When I was on 5hrx3-4 I could barely eat anything or even look at a tomato. Moderation might be safe for some, but not all. I also think one persons idea of moderation, is a lot different to another. Most importantly, learn to know the signs of a high potassium, and if you even slightly think it might be high, seek medical attention. If you can self diagnose this, it makes the ERs people's jobs much easier, and you will be treated quicker if needed.

[angieskidney]

I eat anything in general and take my phosphate binders BUT I also have taken certain things out of my diet like:

milk, whole wheat bread, cheese (I do eat it very rarely but with binders because frankly I LOVE THAT CHEESE!!!!!), ice cream, pudding, chocolate, bananas, oranges, pears, tomatoes, yogurt, cream sauces (some times I have it with binders cuz I love that too!!)...


and then I take my binders with everything else. Like fries. I love fries. But mind you, I have severely limited that ... as well as limited fast food in general as most of it is high in Phosphate!! Infact, the fast food chicken .. most of it (especially McDonald's) has ADDED PHOSPHATE as well as water in their chicken!! But when I do get fast food I ask for a kiddy size drink (yes a lot of places have it and WILL give it to you) and I skip the fries or get a small size

Buyer Beware!!

[Panda_9]

I used to have awful trouble with cheese. I would have just one slice and my knuckles would swell up and the pain was so severe. It was enough to stop me eating it.
Have you ever tried rice milk angie? Its lower in potassium, and cant see why it would be high in phosphate. I love it, always have.

[Bajanne]

Have you ever tried rice milk angie? Its lower in potassium, and cant see why it would be high in phosphate.

I posted a thread 'Low Phosphorus Substitutes' and it listed rice milk as a possible low phosphorus substitute for milk.

[angieskidney]

I used to have awful trouble with cheese. I would have just one slice and my knuckles would swell up and the pain was so severe. It was enough to stop me eating it.
Have you ever tried rice milk angie? Its lower in potassium, and cant see why it would be high in phosphate. I love it, always have.

white rice milk has little to no phosphate in it I believe. But when I tried it I wanted to puke! It tasted like watered rice.... like rice has been sitting in water for a month and you decided to drink it .. yuck!!

[Panda_9]

LOL thats why I like it, its not as milky as normal milk. I used to water down a glass of milk anyway, so I guess thats why I like it.

[angieskidney]

LOL thats why I like it, its not as milky as normal milk. I used to water down a glass of milk anyway, so I guess thats why I like it.

ewww To suit their own. I love milk. Of course i don't like it as creamy as my mom .. her and my brother love to drink pure cream straight!! Yuck!! lol