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« on: September 08, 2009, 02:43:41 AM »

okay, we can not eat in dialysis as of a few months ago,
we can smell fresh popped popcorn -
even at 6am it smells good -
a tech said, "what we can not eat in the break room?"
yes, you can but you are torturing us
and you know it -
smelling coffee is bad enough, but now popcorn
they will not give us coffee anymore
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« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2009, 04:33:38 AM »

That's torture!, but I suppose it could be worse, just wait until some idiot burns it, that smell makes me gag and seems to linger forever.......
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« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2009, 04:51:59 AM »

This highlights for me one of the advantages of dialyzing at home. Carl generally eats dinner while on the machine. And drinks, and has snacks.

Twirl, if the techs had to go for hours without any kind of nourishment, they might re-think their practices.  :banghead;

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« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2009, 04:56:34 AM »

My clinics the same, the Doctor pops her popcorn sits at the nurses desk and eats it while were all sitting there!!!! The nurses walk around with their extra large tim hortons coffee and a litre water bottle then they all sit together in their section gossiping. Common sense and a little respect would be to much to ask for! :rant; :boxing;
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« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2009, 06:17:35 AM »

yep unbelieveable. That is not on!

I have to say our staff are usually pretty good. They eat in their break room yes, but it's down a hall so you usually can't smell stuff unless you go in there to talk to them so that's fine. If they have food on the floor they almost always share with us - like if someone brings something in, or it's a birthday or something. I think they are pretty good to us. Yes they drink but it's their workplace and they should have coffee/water whatever if they want, but they keep that at the nurses station and don't stick it in our faces. I think they are pretty aware. That's why every so often I'm happy to buy them coffee or whatever. We are one big family AND they let us eat!!!!!! That's why I keep my box of M&M's full for them :)

I must admit though today they spent part of the afternoon talking food and I was getting VERY hungry!!! LOL
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« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2009, 07:31:18 AM »

Years ago my husband had day surgery on this shoulder.  He was fasting and when the triage nurse came in to prep him and take his vitals she had just popped a piece of gum into her mouth so the smell was pretty strong.  Jim actually said something to her....something like gosh, here I am fasting and you are chewing gum and that is actually making me more hungry.   I usually tell the supervisors about those type of things.  I agree that staff should be able to take their breaks and have snacks but be consideate.  Unlike some of my coworkers who warm up fish in the microwave that is in the lounge.  Which (by the way) vents into my office! >:(
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« Reply #6 on: September 08, 2009, 09:31:13 AM »

I would start by complaining to the director of nursing.  If you get no relief, keep going up the "food chain" until you find someone who will listen to your complaints and do something about them.  As a last resort, consider changing centers. 
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« Reply #7 on: September 08, 2009, 09:40:19 AM »

I guess they *could* be ruder by plopping down in front of your chair to do their noshing!  :rofl; :rofl;
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« Reply #8 on: September 08, 2009, 10:15:22 AM »

well if it's any consolation to you I do it to them at my clinic. They are not allowed food or drink on the floor but we are and some times I'll get some chicken strips and one tech will come and just sit by me when she can.
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« Reply #9 on: September 08, 2009, 10:26:29 AM »

Wow i must be spoilt ! We get put on our machines then about 15 mins later we all get tea and toast , then about an hour before we finish they come round with more tea and sandwiches. You can also eat and drink whatever you take in .
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« Reply #10 on: September 08, 2009, 10:50:37 AM »

i think this attitude of the tech staff is related to the health care system of the countries involved. here in canada, you are allowed to take anything you want into a center to eat while dialyzing. even the hospital unit allows it.
still, i too prefer home dialysis to in center. i would like to know what their reasoning really is, behind this restriction. it's not fair at all and makes me think that the attitude of some health care professionals
toward their patients is not a very healthy one!
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« Reply #11 on: September 08, 2009, 11:19:25 AM »

Monday of last week was a holiday here in the UK so the night staff on my unit decided they should cheer themselves up by ordering Chinese food for their evening break. This necessitated all the nurses, auxiliaries,unit clerk, drivers and a security guard coming onto the nurses station and then filling out on-line their order.
This of course with them talking about choices,favourites and drinks begin to drive us up the wall, they then began to collect the money to pay the delivery guy. But the worst was the smell of the forbidden delicacies being microwaved at regular intervals as staff took their breaks over the rest of the night
Never mind water-boarding this is real torture.       
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« Reply #12 on: September 08, 2009, 11:20:37 AM »

that is just sad    >:(
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« Reply #13 on: September 08, 2009, 12:24:16 PM »

I could bring whatever I wanted to eat to the dialysis unit.  I didn't notice our techs or nurses eating on the unit.  Their break room must have been somewhere else. 

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« Reply #14 on: September 08, 2009, 12:41:51 PM »

 :rant; Sorry to keep on ranting but......
We can bring what we want but have to hear about how bad it is. We had a gentleman that would go to the cafeteria and get ice for the patients and coffee for the nurses. Bad luck had it the Superiors didn't want him bringing us ice anymore but he still gets to bring the nurses their coffee. Lil double standard? >:( ???
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« Reply #15 on: September 08, 2009, 06:55:03 PM »

My last center ordered stacks of pizzas and had them right next to where you weighed.  I made a comment to one of the tech's and he just shrugged.  I wonder if some of the staff have ever heard of the word empathy? 
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« Reply #16 on: September 08, 2009, 06:57:07 PM »

Sometimes I see new patients come in and their families being all nice and caring come with them and bring them huge bottles of coke and chips and stuff!!!!! I internally gasp at the thought, but then realise they are probably still peeing, and the PO4 will be taken out by the dialysis process and all that but it's like oh man I want I want I want I want I want!!!!  :rofl;

I got partial revenge on nurses yesterday when we were joking about meeting up in Hong Kong after I get a transplant and having high tea. I told them no problem I'll go there first class and started talking about the awesome food and service I've had in past flights... and they were moaning about flying in economy(coach).. *evil cackle*
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« Reply #17 on: September 09, 2009, 12:45:46 PM »

i think the no eating rule in some units, SUCKS! i think the reason behind it is that medicare is trying to eliminate anything that "they" feel makes patients sick and causes them to be hospitalized. some diabetics can't go 4 hours without eating.
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« Reply #18 on: September 09, 2009, 02:17:11 PM »

the doctor on rounds today told me that I need a donut  :cheer: :cheer: :cheer:
he was talking about the kind you sit on for a sore behind   :( :( :( :sir ken;
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« Reply #19 on: September 09, 2009, 07:22:29 PM »

Leave it to Twirl      :rofl; :rofl; :rofl; :rofl;
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« Reply #20 on: September 10, 2009, 05:17:33 AM »

today I took in some chiocolate frogs for the staff, and I had them sitting on top of my regular container of M&M's and another container of mints... and that's when the dietician walked in!!!  :rofl;
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« Reply #21 on: September 10, 2009, 03:53:04 PM »

We're not allowed to eat or drink at our clinic either. We can't even eat hard candy or chew gum! And if you're diabetic, like me, tough luck! It's because ONCE, a long time ago, someone chocked while eating while crashing on the machine. I find every opportunity to complain about this rule though. At least the staff isn't allowed to have anything either unless it's in the break room at the back of the building. It's torture though because my session runs right through lunchtime so I don't get lunch! I can't eat breakfast on dialysis days because I have a tendency to throw it back up while there. i'm sooo hungry by the time i get home around 3:30 or 4, I end up eating and my poor husband ends up eating a tv dinner when he gets home later.
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« Reply #22 on: September 10, 2009, 05:44:52 PM »

I think it's a ridiculous rule too.  When I did haemo I even vomited back up my food a couple of times, and our nurses just cleaned everything up, got me another drink so I didn't get dehydrated, and suggested I try a little bit of food more slowly next time.   They had a tea trolley come around each shift.  We tend to always do 5 hour shifts and that is just too long to expect people to go without a drink or something.
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« Reply #23 on: September 10, 2009, 06:24:36 PM »

My clinic is nothing to eat also. Unless the Dietitian says  ok. I have her orders to eat a protein bar  :puke; and because I am Diabetic to always have apple juice and crackers with me. I sit them on my table and no one has ever said a word. They give us ice but at 6;30 am I want coffee!!!
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« Reply #24 on: September 10, 2009, 09:43:24 PM »

I think it's a ridiculous rule too.  When I did haemo I even vomited back up my food a couple of times, and our nurses just cleaned everything up, got me another drink so I didn't get dehydrated, and suggested I try a little bit of food more slowly next time.   They had a tea trolley come around each shift.  We tend to always do 5 hour shifts and that is just too long to expect people to go without a drink or something.

Very similar here. Well I guess Aussies and kiwis do do things in a very similar way!!
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