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« on: August 31, 2006, 03:40:28 PM »

So I gathered from Angie's list that salmon and cod are both high in potassium.  What alternative fish would be good to serve regularly?
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« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2006, 06:08:13 PM »

It really depends on where fish is from and what specific breed and whether freshwater or saltwater.

Like Alantic cod is low in potassium while Pacific cod is high in potassium for the same portion.

Personally I do not eat fish. :P

Something that can help out alot in this area is a book called:

Bowes & Church's Food Values of Portions of Commonly Used by  Jean A.T. Pennington.

It has lots of different listings of just about everytype of food whether its name brand or fast food.

List Protein, Potassium, Phosphorus, Sodium vitamins and minerals, etc. etc.




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« Reply #2 on: September 01, 2006, 12:40:12 AM »

So I gathered from Angie's list that salmon and cod are both high in potassium.  What alternative fish would be good to serve regularly?
Halibut the halibut? I know .. bad pun :P (How about the Halibut?)

Supposedly that is low in Potassium compared to other fish. Well, .. 456 Potassium .. don't know how low that is ...

See this recipe.

I attached it ... oh the 2nd fish one is better though!
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« Reply #3 on: September 04, 2006, 11:05:10 AM »

Recipes look good, Angie.  Thanks for the suggestions, and you too BigSky.  I read in an article that catfish is lower in phosphorus, which is a pretty easy choice for us since there's so much catfish available around here.  Halibut is good, but I think it may be more expensive (haven't bought it in a while).  I will use that as a good alternative I think.   :)
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« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2006, 01:34:17 PM »

unless it's battered i don't really eat alot of fish.
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« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2006, 05:00:40 PM »

fish sticks with lemon here, thank you very much ;)  and thats about it
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« Reply #6 on: September 06, 2006, 11:20:06 PM »

fish sticks with lemon here, thank you very much ;)  and thats about it
But with fish sticks you have to be careful about added Phosphate in the breading. :( (But I LOVE those! lol)


I also really love Halabut! I would even say it is my favourite ;)
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« Reply #7 on: September 07, 2006, 07:16:04 PM »

I didnt really think fish was too much of a problem. I eat flavoured canned tuna, and canned salmon. They are around 100gms each. Haaaaate fish sticks!
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« Reply #8 on: September 08, 2006, 07:38:49 AM »


                                                  Potassium          Phosphorus
Northern Pike                                220                  187
Perch freshwater                           229                   170
Pollack, walleye                              277                   320
Salmon, Pink                                 275                    196
Salmon, Coho wild                          360                   223
Salmon, Coho farmed                      383                   248
Salmon, Sockeye                            333                   183
Tuna, bluefin                                 214                    216
Tuna, yellowfin                              378                    162
Whitefish                                      270                    230
Catfish, Channel -wild                      304                    178
Catfish, Channel -farmed                  254                    172


Portions are 3 oz uncooked.
             
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« Reply #9 on: September 08, 2006, 09:51:16 AM »

Thanks BigSky, you've got us covered!        ;)
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« Reply #10 on: September 08, 2006, 04:30:41 PM »

I didnt think anyone ate catfish? I think ill stick to the tuna, salmon, snapper, or perch!
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« Reply #11 on: September 08, 2006, 06:15:39 PM »

I didnt think anyone ate catfish? I think ill stick to the tuna, salmon, snapper, or perch!

Come visit the South, catfish is everywhere!  LOL  Fried catfish is really big.
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« Reply #12 on: September 08, 2006, 09:07:12 PM »

Almost none of the fish we eat regularly in the Caribbean are on that list.  Do you guys know about Tilapia? Flying Fish? Mahi mahi? Albacore? Shark? Jacks?
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« Reply #13 on: September 08, 2006, 09:13:48 PM »

Almost none of the fish we eat regularly in the Caribbean are on that list.  Do you guys know about Tilapia? Flying Fish? Mahi mahi? Albacore? Shark? Jacks?


Mahi mahi is great .. YUM

And isn't Albacore a kind of Tuna?  YUM, too!       :beer1;
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« Reply #14 on: September 08, 2006, 09:16:20 PM »

Sorry, yes, albacore is tuna.
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« Reply #15 on: September 08, 2006, 09:33:50 PM »

MMMMMM fried catfish right out of the Lake Nickajack, with hushpuppies and coleslaw.  Yummy. When I lived in the south as a teenager we would drive around and see the sights and go fishing along the lake. Then we would stop as this little hole int he wall restaurant.  It has about ten seats in it total and order up the catfish plate.  Oh Geez what an amount of food to eat.  I miss fried catfish and hushpuppies made the southern way.
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« Reply #16 on: September 08, 2006, 09:36:49 PM »

MMMMMM fried catfish right out of the Lake Nickajack, with hushpuppies and coleslaw.  Yummy. When I lived in the south as a teenager we would drive around and see the sights and go fishing along the lake. Then we would stop as this little hole int he wall restaurant.  It has about ten seats in it total and order up the catfish plate.  Oh Geez what an amount of food to eat.  I miss fried catfish and hushpuppies made the southern way.
We have Popeye's here for all those old favorites ...    :beer1;
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« Reply #17 on: September 08, 2006, 09:43:07 PM »

Popeyes is not the same. We have Popeyes too, and Long John Silvers, but it is just not the same.  A real southern cook can make catfish sing!
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« Reply #18 on: September 08, 2006, 09:53:24 PM »

Popeyes is not the same. We have Popeyes too, and Long John Silvers, but it is just not the same.  A real southern cook can make catfish sing!

That's so true!
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Just the facts: 70.0 kgs. (about 154 lbs.)
Treatment: Tue-Thur-Sat   5.5 hours, 2x/wk, 6 hours, 1x/wk
Dialysate flow (Qd)=600;  Blood pump speed(Qb)=315
Fresenius Optiflux-180 filter--without reuse
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« Reply #19 on: September 09, 2006, 02:39:47 AM »

I dont even know if anywhere sells catfish here. All I know about them is they look horrible and they live in our murky rivers. Im pretty sure my other half said if they catch a catfish while fishing they throw them back.
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« Reply #20 on: September 09, 2006, 02:22:23 PM »

The farm bred catfish are what is used in most kitchens now days. I know they are ugly fish.  Just looking at them makes me wonder what on earth was the creator thinking when that got through the inspection process?  Tasty meat though from the farm bred catfish though. 
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« Reply #21 on: September 09, 2006, 03:44:01 PM »


                                               Potassium         Phosphorus

Mahi mahi  (dolphinfish)                 354                  122
Jacks    (Skipjack tuna)                 346                  189
Shark                                         136                  179

3 oz raw


As to albacore the only thing         283                   227
I have on it is canned. -3 oz.

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« Reply #22 on: September 09, 2006, 05:56:11 PM »

Over here I think things like snapper, barramundi, and perch are common in restaurants. My other half went deep sea fishing for his birthday this year and they cooked the fish up (whole) on the BBQ with garlic butter, onion, salt and pepper, and it was the most beautiful fish I have ever tasted. Pity they werent sure what type it was!
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« Reply #23 on: September 11, 2006, 01:41:08 PM »


                                               Potassium         Phosphorus

Mahi mahi  (dolphinfish)                 354                  122
Jacks    (Skipjack tuna)                 346                  189
Shark                                         136                  179

3 oz raw


As to albacore the only thing         283                   227
I have on it is canned. -3 oz.


The jack that we have is a relatively small fish.  It isn't a tuna.  They are only about 6 inches long and they taste great!
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« Reply #24 on: September 11, 2006, 05:59:13 PM »


The jack that we have is a relatively small fish.  It isn't a tuna.  They are only about 6 inches long and they taste great!

Couldn't find anything on the jacks you are talking about.  Seems there are several different varities of that fish yet none are listed in my book.  Sorry.
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