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Title: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: kitkatz on October 15, 2006, 07:11:29 PM
Okay folks I have to get with it and lose at least twenty pounds.  With the holidays coming up I am going to need some help.  There is a huge amount of stress in my life right now and Lord knows how I am going to do it.
How about if we support each other right here on the board to lose the weight we need to lose?
I have more than twenty to lose, but will start with the first twenty. 
This thread not to berate each other with failure, (we have anough of that!) but to help each other through the rough times.
Besides we have a lot of people who are knowledgeable about diet especially renal diet and we can lean on them for help.

Starting Monday monring I am going to change one thing in my life to become healthier. Each week I will add one new thing to change.

This week:  Add a fruit or wegetable to each meal replacing a bread carbo.

Join me as I wrestle my weight demons into submission one at a time.
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: goofynina on October 15, 2006, 08:01:06 PM
You go girlfriend, you can do this, we will be here supporting you all the way, but remember, you have to be truthful to yourself so no more DelTaco fries ok,   I wish i had your drive and motivation but i feel its a lost cause with me, especially now being on PD and the high caloric dialysate and stuff, oh well, but i will support you any way i can girlfriend,,, you can do this  :2thumbsup; :clap;
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: Fox_nc on October 15, 2006, 09:25:04 PM
I think this is a great idea and I'm right there with you.  I will follow your lead and add a fruit or veggie to each meal.  Monday is a good day to start.  If you are up to it, how about adding walking for say, 5 minutes a day next week?

Oh and Goofynina - you never give up either.  Even on PD, you can make changes and make yourself feel better.  I actually can't even believe you said that.  You seem to be so passionate in everything else, that I know you can do anything you put your mind to.  Just put your mind to it and you WILL do it.  You can do this too, ya know.
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: goofynina on October 15, 2006, 10:38:08 PM
Thanks Foxy, but living the way i've lived for 38 years i really dont see it happening, dont get me wrong, i love life to the fullest and i try to be as happy as i can possibly be but deep down inside i just dont feel good about myself, eh, but funny i can sure support others and cheer them on huh? lol,  guess i am weird in that way  ::)
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: TrophyWife on October 16, 2006, 04:53:27 AM
HI Goofynina!
You can do this girl. Keep a journal of all you eat. Be organized - don't skip a meal - it will lead to bad food choices! Buy a cute outfit, something sporty that you can walk in! It will motivate you. And email me anytime for motivation.
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: goofynina on October 16, 2006, 10:55:26 AM
I am sorry, i had to laugh at your "cute sporty" outfit, lol,  i think the smallest size i ever wore wasnt even cute, lol,  but i know what your saying,  and thank you so much for the support,  (wanna move in with me)  ::) :P   Do you know how to crack a whip?  I think thats what i need.  lol :D
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: mallory on October 16, 2006, 01:00:41 PM
I'd love to have a thread for weight loss support.  I've gained 40 lbs. since I started taking so much Prednisone, and I've got to do something.  My doctor called last Thursday and said my kidneys are getting worse, so I'll probably be starting PD soon and then I'm really worried that I'll gain more weight. 

Walking 5 minutes a day sounds good to me, and I'll really try this week to eat better. 

Goofynina, you can do this.  If I can do it, you can.  I have no willpower, and the Prednisone makes me want to eat everything in sight. 

We can do it!! :grouphug;

Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: kitkatz on October 16, 2006, 08:06:32 PM
I did not add a veggie or fruit to meals today for lunch and I ate no breakfast, so off to a not so good start.  But I did have some romaine lettuce for dinner with the taco salad I made at home.  Goody for me.  Off to try again tomorrow.
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: jbeany on October 16, 2006, 09:25:43 PM
hey, goofynina,
I saw on one of the other posts that you had a match, but the docs said you have to lose weight before they will do the transplant.  My sister has already volunteered, although the only tests we've done are blood typing.   I don't know if the rest will work out or not, but if it does, I may end up in the same boat, being a WWC (woman with curves!) myself.  I was just wondering if you had any idea what the weight limits are for a transplant?  Just how overweight can you be and still get one?

Just wondering if you had any info off the top of your head. . .

Does the donor have to be a certain weight as well?  I can see my sis giving me a kidney, but giving up chocolate, even for a while - now that's a lot to ask!  ;D
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: goofynina on October 16, 2006, 09:34:13 PM
Yep Jbeany, you have to be 200 lbs or under (yesssss, i am over that, waaaay over, lol) *mumbles* frickinsmackinfrackleflickin :P   That is why i dont see it possible for me.  :'(  oh well,   I believe the donor has to be under that weight as well and in good health (naturally)  ::)   I remember when i had my meeting with the Kidney Hospital and we discussed it all, i was near that weight BUT when they told me that my insurance wasnt going to pay for my donors portion and we had to raise $50,000.00 in order for it to even be considered i gave up and started eating again, DAMMIT,  so close, so close,  now i am back where i started from when i first got sick  :-\
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: jbeany on October 16, 2006, 10:03:49 PM
That's not as bad as I thought.  I was worried they were going to say you have to a lot closer to the reccomended weight for your height than that.  Down to 200 is pretty manageable for me - I've got less than 15 to go then.  It was more more, but I finally found a diet plan that works - my husband's.  He asked me to stop buying junk food for the house completely.  (I do all the grocery shopping.)  Since we only have one car, if I want anything I'm not supposed to have, I have to walk a block to the local convenience store to get it.  Even if I do go for some junk food, I burn off the calories going to get it.  And most of the time, I just don't bother at all.  (Too lazy to get junk - I guess that's not a bad thing.)

I think my sister has dropped below that already - she's on the divorcee diet plan.  It's a two parter, she says.  Part one is losing your appetite when your husband of 15 years announces that he's leaving you for his college age girlfriend.  Part two kicks in when someone else asks you out and you picture yourself naked in front of a new man.   ;)

I thought Medicare was supposed to cover most of the donors transplant costs?  At least that's what the booklet I have says.  Well, it says "part" - how big of part is that, I wonder?  They pay for the stem and you're left to cover the apple?
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: nkviking75 on October 16, 2006, 10:32:52 PM
Yep Jbeany, you have to be 200 lbs or under (yesssss, i am over that, waaaay over, lol) *mumbles* frickinsmackinfrackleflickin :P   That is why i dont see it possible for me.  :'(  oh well,   I believe the donor has to be under that weight as well and in good health (naturally)  ::)   I remember when i had my meeting with the Kidney Hospital and we discussed it all, i was near that weight BUT when they told me that my insurance wasnt going to pay for my donors portion and we had to raise $50,000.00 in order for it to even be considered i gave up and started eating again, DAMMIT,  so close, so close,  now i am back where i started from when i first got sick  :-\
When I went to the Mayo Clinic (only about 90 minutes from me) for my evaluation, they seemed to base their criteria on Body Mass Index.  In my case, they told me I need to get down to 240.  Being male might have something to do with the difference as well.  I understand the discouragement because I am in the same boat.  I have a long way to go.
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: Panda_9 on October 17, 2006, 12:46:58 AM
I have to lose weight too. At the moment I am aiming for 10kg, then see how I go after that. Small goals make it easier. Don't be too hard on yourself and make a massive goal and expect it to happen quickly. I meet every criteria for transplant except the weight part. You have to have a BMI of 30 or less which makes it pretty hard. At the moment my BMI is around 36. The surgeon said he would do the transplant now if I wanted him too, but it carries 50% risk of this and that, mostly infection. Plus theres the fact that you will put weight on post transplant because of the steroids and because you make up for not being able to eat whatever you wanted while on dialysis.
When I had my first transplant my first meal out was maccas (HUGE MISTAKE!). From what I can remember I had 2 cheeseburgers, another burger, fries, coke, and large chips and god knows what else. Well that night I brought it all back up lol
I think its important to get into the habit of eating well and exercising now before the transplant, so you have a bit more willpower afterwards.
I have started going to the gym and funny enough it is not all that hard! I did a 40 minute workout today, and although I came home and had a snooze, I feel good knowing that I have done something today, and actually enjoyed it. I find walking boring, much prefer all the different equipment at the gym.
Start off slowly with the healthy eating part, if you think you might have trouble with it. I started straight into it, cut out this that and everything and I just couldn't do it. So now like kitkatz said, start with one (or more if you like) thing at a time. I am cutting down on my milk intake, cheese, and margarine for now.
If I find myself sitting at home bored, I just jump on the bus and go walk around the shops, have a coffee and healthy lunch, then go home. It makes me tired, but at least Ive done something.
Perhaps we could share healthy recipes and food ideas?
As I said in another thread, I love low fat creamed cottage cheese on toast with promite or vegemite or thin slices of tomato.
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: Epoman on October 17, 2006, 07:48:55 AM
Would you guys like this to be a "Sticky" in this section? - Epoman
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: Sluff on October 17, 2006, 09:50:39 AM
I have lost a total of 83 lbs in about a year. 39 just since diagnosis in may 06. Not really doing anything  special but just am sick to my stomach and don't feel like eating sometimes.  My goal is to lose at least another 65lbs.
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: mallory on October 17, 2006, 10:44:44 AM
Thanks, Epoman, I think it would be great for this to be a sticky.

My doctor also told me I had to have a BMI of 30 or less to get a transplant.  I didn't know what my BMI was, so I found this link that calculates BMI:

http://www.webmd.com/content/tools/1/calc_bmi.htm

It's in pounds, not kilograms, here's a link to a converter that can convert kilograms to pounds (or pounds to kilograms):

http://www.itinscales.com/weightcalc.htm

I agree with Amber.  It's a good idea to get in the habit of exercising and eating healthy foods before we get transplants.  I have a tendency to set unrealistic goals, like losing 5 pounds a week, then I get discouraged when I don't make it.  I really need to set a goal of just trying to exercise a little, like the five minutes a day walking, and then try to gradually increase it.  

I'd love to share recipes.  I have a good low-calorie vegetable soup recipe, I'll find it and post it.
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: mallory on October 17, 2006, 12:09:10 PM
Here's the recipe for the soup.  It's really good, especially now when the weather's getting colder (at least in Utah!) and it has hardly any calories in it.  When I was on Weight Watchers they told us it was a 0 point food, so you could eat as much of it as you wanted.  I also put fresh sliced mushrooms in mine, and you could add other vegetables that you like. 

This recipe originally came from Weight Watchers, but I don't think it has anything in it that isn't kidney-friendly.  If it isn't, let me know, I'm not very good at this ESRD diet yet!

Vegetable Soup
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•   2/3 c sliced carrot
•   ˝ c diced onion
•   2 garlic cloves, minced
•   3 c low-sodium broth (beef, chicken, or vegetable)
•   1 ˝ c diced green cabbage
•   ˝ c green beans
•   1 T. tomato paste
•   ˝ tsp. dried basil
•   Ľ tsp. dried oregano
•   ˝ c diced zucchini
In a large saucepan sprayed with non-stick cooking spray, saute carrot, onion and garlic over low heat until softened - about 5 minutes.
Add broth, cabbage, beans, tomato paste, basil, and oregano. Bring to a boil. Lower heat and simmer, covered about 15 min. or until beans are tender.
Stir in zucchini and heat 3-4 minutes. Serve hot.
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: jbeany on October 17, 2006, 01:44:19 PM
Hmmm, thanks for link, mallory - I think!  I used it to calculate what my weight would have to be for my height to reach a BMI under 30.   So much for easily manageable amounts to lose!  :P

Ah well, I've got a long term goal then - 30 pounds to get to 30 points.  There's no way my sis can give me a kidney anytime soon.  She can't afford to miss work right now, let alone all the medical costs goofynina was talking about, so I've got at least a year or possibly two to work on it.  If I manage it sooner, then I'll just be in cuter jeans quicker!

Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: goofynina on October 17, 2006, 01:50:20 PM
Hmmm, thanks for link, mallory - I think!  I used it to calculate what my weight would have to be for my height to reach a BMI under 30.   So much for easily manageable amounts to lose!  :P

Ah well, I've got a long term goal then - 30 pounds to get to 30 points.  There's no way my sis can give me a kidney anytime soon.  She can't afford to miss work right now, let alone all the medical costs goofynina was talking about, so I've got at least a year or possibly two to work on it.  If I manage it sooner, then I'll just be in cuter jeans quicker!

Jbeany,  my insurance is different from other insurances cuz it is through a union and they wont pay for a "living donor" but they would pay for a cadaveric donor, go figure huh?  Well,  Medicare said they would pay for 80% and i would have to come up with the remaining 20% which is around $50,000.00,   just wanted you to know how and why i got those figures. :P
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: jbeany on October 17, 2006, 01:55:44 PM
$50,000 is 20%?  Good grief.  Well, that's good to know, I suppose.  One more reason to add to the CON list on deciding if Sis and I want to do this.

More incentive to lose the weight and get on the UNOS list, then, too!
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: Epoman on October 17, 2006, 02:32:46 PM
STICKIED  :thumbup;
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: tamara on October 17, 2006, 03:13:38 PM
For me in Australia to get on the transplant list had to get under a BMI of 30. Which I did but then I had my Parathyroids removed and put on about 10kg.

I am finding these 10 the hardest to lose in my life.

I seriously need to lose this ASAP am in the midst of organising an AB non match Kidney Transplant with my partner in Crime, Allan.

I've been going to the Gym for about the last six weeks and have lost about 4 kilos so 6 to go.

Will keep the Support Group informed.........................
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: kitkatz on October 17, 2006, 04:06:47 PM
I am going to try to walk the dog today.  I added veggies to the diet once today. Bought a sliced up veggies cup at the local seven eleven and took it to work. Forgot about it until after lunch and school, but did munch on it a little
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: Panda_9 on October 17, 2006, 05:26:45 PM
Its coming up summer here so Im looking forward to eating more salad. I usually cut up some celery, carrot, cucumber, cherry/grape tomato, couple of stuffed olives, some cubes of reduced fat cheese and spring onions, and when im ready to eat it i pour on some fat free dressing and a can of drained tuna. Its a nice filling light lunch.
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: Russ on October 20, 2006, 07:24:15 AM
I tried to get a gastric bypass about 3 years ago before my kidneys failed but my insurance has an exclusion for WLS.  Now I will have to wait 1.5 years for Medicare to become primary and get the bypass at that time.  Then I think it will take me about a year or so to lose enough weight to qualify for a transplant.  I was told my BMI needs to be around the 30's.  Now insurance will have to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars more for a transplant on top of the WLS when they could have just paid for just the WLS or about $25,000.  Oh and I'm sure I'll probably have 1 or 2  hospital stays along the way which average about $20,000 a pop.  I'd like to meet these insurance dumbasses one day and show them how to save some money.
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: BigSky on October 20, 2006, 08:56:57 AM
Some basics things to figure ones ideal weight.

Female-  100 pounds for the first 5 feet of height and then add 5 pounds for each inch over 5 feet. + - 10% for weight range.

Male-      110 pounds for the first 5 feet of height and then add 6 pounds for each inch over 5 feet. + - 10% for weight range.


Calorie needs and amounts do change with dialysis patients some.

However the basics are.  Ideal weight x 10= basic calorie requirement.

To find out the approximate number of calories one is already taking in.  Present weight x 10= current intake of calories.
If one is exercising then add the number of calories burned to that number for what one is taking in.






Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: jbeany on October 28, 2006, 10:25:04 AM
Got out my yoga video this week.  I've only managed to do a really short session so far, since the nerve damage to my arm from the graft surgeries makes my arm feel like it's trying to fall off while I'm stretching.  Guess I'll have to stick to more walking instead.  I did go out last night and danced a little, but I think the appetizer platter probably made it a break even as far as calories burned!  ( I ate healthy all the rest of the day - I knew there was junk food on tap for later that night.)  Deep fried veggies - how to make the healthiest stuff to eat into something you shouldn't touch . . .who came up with that, anyhow?

After getting the info on here about the 30 BMI for transplant, it's occurred to me to wonder why I had to learn that from this website, and not from my docs.  In 10 years of medical treatments for kidney failure, why hasn't anyone said "You should really start watching your weight now, because you have to be under 30 BMI to be eligible for the transplant list."  Not that they haven't said anything about my weight before, (it was always about lowering my blood pressure, though, and never anything they focused on intensely) but doesn't it seem like my neph should have mentioned that particular fact?  It does seem like an incentive to really work on the problem that he could have told me about back when I wasn't quite so sick and was still able to exercise more.  :-\

I know part of the reason they haven't focused on my weight was the gastroparesis - I've spent too much time trying to find a diet that actually stays in me to worry much about what is staying ON me, but I still wish they had mentioned it ages ago.

Ah well, at least I lost 2 pounds this week.
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: mallory on October 30, 2006, 08:20:14 AM
Good job, jbeany!  Two pounds is a great start!  I know what you mean about the 30 BMI, I saw some posts here about having to lose weight for a transplant and so I asked my Nephrologist.  He told me it was true, I had to have a BMI greater than 18 and less than 30 to be eligible for a transplant.  He'd never mentioned it to me before, either, and I'm clearly over 30 BMI.  I told him to tell me if there was anything else I didn't know that I should be working on, but that seemed to be the biggest thing.

I'm taking less Prednisone starting today, I've been trying to eat better, but so far I haven't lost anything.  Hopefully now that I'm taking less Prednisone I'll start to lose something. 

Keep up the good work, you're doing great!
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: kitkatz on October 30, 2006, 08:27:14 AM
Some ideas for weight loss (Not that I know anything.)

When you go shopping do it on a full stomach. Things are not as appealing when you are satisfied instead of hungry.
Just do not buy the junk food.  If it is not around then you will not eat it.
Pick one thing you like and keep it in the house for those times you have to have something you like. Or make sure if you are craving something you have to go get it instead of it being in the cupboard.  It will give you time to think if you really need it or just want it.
Instead of chips, put pretzels in the house.
For the sweet tooth, buy the sugar free sour candies and have them around instead of the sugarful stuff. 
I buy Rye Krisp crackers and eat them when I need a real crunch in my diet. They are only 22 calories so if you eat the whole pack it is not too crashing on the diet.
Cut up fruits and veggies and leave them in the front of the refrigerator so they are the first thing you see as a choice.

(Now if I would follow my own advice!)
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: jbeany on October 30, 2006, 09:55:46 AM
I stopped buying junk food because my husband wanted to lose weight to a hunting trip in the mountains.  He asked me to stop bringing home all the junk he likes to eat.  It's amazing how much difference it makes.  I'm not nibbling at things just because they are in front of me now, either.  It also makes my shopping trips a lot faster - there are whole aisles in the grocery store I don't even walk down anymore.  I've seen the Dr. Phil stuff about an "error-proof environment", and I have to say it really does work.

One more rule that's helped at my house - if you want a fattening baked goodie, you have to bake it yourself.  No store bought cookies, doughnuts, eclairs, cakes. . . .  If I make it at home, it gets made with whole wheat flour, low fat substitutes for the butter, like applesauce, very little salt, and half the batch immediately goes out the door to my father-in-law, who adores all things homemade.
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: Ohio Buckeye on October 30, 2006, 04:15:44 PM
I've been a member of ww so many times I have lost count.
Weight has been a constant struggle but I am about 94 lbs.
less than my high wt.  I would like to lose 10 or so more.  It
has taken me years, losing, gaining, etc.  Finally I just
pretty much count calories and walked and got 3 pcs. of exercise
equip.  I think the thing that really helped me was if I did not let
myself get too hungry.  Have a light snack often.  If I get too hungry,
I'd eat anything I could get my hands on and lots of it.
It now has become a lifestyle instead of a diet.  It was a slow process.
It's not true if you lose it slowly it doesn't come back.  It would
come back just as fast if I eat more.
What a struggle it is.............


Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: mallory on October 31, 2006, 09:13:45 AM
Wow, Ohio, Buckeye, 94 pounds, that's great!  And it sounds like you've done it the right way, so that you've changed your lifestyle and the weight will stay off.

I'm sure hoping that I can lose some weight now that I've cut back on the Prednisone, I'm worried about gaining weight from the PD.  I know some people don't gain weight from it, but, if there's a chance to gain weight, I usually do.  I'm going to try to be really careful about what I eat.

You can lose that last 10 pounds, you've done a great job!
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: BigSky on November 01, 2006, 08:11:48 AM
I'm sure hoping that I can lose some weight now that I've cut back on the Prednisone, I'm worried about gaining weight from the PD.  I know some people don't gain weight from it, but, if there's a chance to gain weight, I usually do.  I'm going to try to be really careful about what I eat.

People do gain some weight from pd.  They say most people absorb 500-700 calories from the solution itself.   :(
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: Ohio Buckeye on November 01, 2006, 09:06:30 AM
That's not true in all cases as I have not gained weight.

Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: goofynina on November 01, 2006, 10:05:52 AM
Same here, no weight gain *shocked*  did that just come from my mouth?  lol, i have been pretty much the same weight for the past 6 months on PD, where as when i was on hemo, i was gaining weekly, go figure huh  :-\ :P
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: NY2FL on November 03, 2006, 08:03:12 PM
I was on PD for over 10 years, and always had issues with eating and weight. So, I must admit
I understand the difficulty.
Goofynina, I was reading some of your earlier posts from this thread. You can't be
defeated girl! I was sooo happy to hear that you have maintained your weight while on PD!
Think about it...you've obviously managed to intake a reasonable amount of calories
(INCLUDING your PD solution) and be active enough NOT to put on any weight .
That is fantastic! Tweek that equation...and you'll drop the weight.  Don't give up !  :)
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: goofynina on November 04, 2006, 09:57:19 AM
I was on PD for over 10 years, and always had issues with eating and weight. So, I must admit
I understand the difficulty.
Goofynina, I was reading some of your earlier posts from this thread. You can't be
defeated girl! I was sooo happy to hear that you have maintained your weight while on PD!
Think about it...you've obviously managed to intake a reasonable amount of calories
(INCLUDING your PD solution) and be active enough NOT to put on any weight .
That is fantastic! Tweek that equation...and you'll drop the weight.  Don't give up !  :)

*theme from Rocky playing*  UH OH,  looks like she is at it again, attempting the inevitable, it looks like... is she... she is!!!  She is breaking out the TAE-BO tapes,   Now if i just remember how to work the VCR  :-\   lol, j/k,   My mission begins, wish me luck my friends..... love ya'll :grouphug;
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: jbeany on November 04, 2006, 11:10:29 AM
Go, girl, go!   :clap;
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: kitkatz on November 04, 2006, 11:12:06 AM
Tae Bow???  Is that anything like origami. >:D  Awww Goofynina you will have cute things all over your house now.  Don't kick them all over the place.  >:D
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: mallory on November 06, 2006, 12:13:25 PM
That's not true in all cases as I have not gained weight.
Same here, no weight gain *shocked* did that just come from my mouth? lol, i have been pretty much the same weight for the past 6 months on PD, where as when i was on hemo, i was gaining weekly, go figure huh :-\ :P
Ohio Buckeye and Goofynina, you're going to be my inspiration!!  I'm going to get that catheter tomorrow, start PD and I will not gain weight.  I will even lose weight because I'll feel better and have more energy, and I'm taking less Prednisone. 

We can do this!  We're going to be successful, I just know it!
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: Sluff on November 07, 2006, 07:44:56 AM
Quote
*theme from Rocky playing*  UH OH,  looks like she is at it again, attempting the inevitable, it looks like... is she... she is!!!  She is breaking out the TAE-BO tapes,   Now if i just remember how to work the VCR  :-\   lol, j/k,   My mission begins, wish me luck my friends..... love ya'll :grouphug;

Don't hurt yourself Goofynina. ;)
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: goofynina on November 07, 2006, 06:58:22 PM
I think i scared myself, since i have pulled out the tapes (and the leg warmers and leotards) :o  lol,    I have been sicker than a dog and cant do anything, damn, i tell ya, if it isnt one thing, its another stopping me on my "mission"  :P
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: Sluff on November 07, 2006, 07:58:23 PM
I think i scared myself, since i have pulled out the tapes (and the leg warmers and leotards) :o  lol,    I have been sicker than a dog and cant do anything, damn, i tell ya, if it isnt one thing, its another stopping me on my "mission"  :P

Well I hope you feel better soon. If you don't I'll get mad... pout...stammering.. I'll just be real sad :(
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: goofynina on November 07, 2006, 10:57:54 PM
OK Sluff,  I am feeling better, nothing came up today, well, came up but not out ;) eww, lol,  but thank you for your kindness it helped alot with my getting better  :cuddle;
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: Sluff on November 08, 2006, 06:14:29 AM
OK Sluff,  I am feeling better, nothing came up today, well, came up but not out ;) eww, lol,  but thank you for your kindness it helped alot with my getting better  :cuddle;

Is that like taste better the second time around??? eeeewwwww. lol
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: angela515 on November 09, 2006, 09:29:30 AM
Sorry, I didnt see this thread before I posted my question and issues in general discussion.. lol... oopsie...

I am trying to lose 10 lbs to begin with... the one thing I changed to start, is I aadded salad to lunch and dinner and took our a carb during those meals.

I know we can do it if we stick to it and dont cheat  ;D
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: mallory on November 15, 2006, 11:17:12 AM
Okay, despite eating potato chips and chocolate milk for dinner last night, I have lost four pounds!  Yahoo!  I think it's because they've cut back on my Prednisone.  I'm going to try to do really well for the time I have left until I start dialysis, maybe I can lose a few more pounds in the next couple of weeks.  There is Thanksgiving, but I will try to be good!
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: goofynina on November 15, 2006, 11:35:39 AM
Well allright Mallory  :2thumbsup; :clap;   Keep it up girlfriend... WE CAN DO THIS  :beer1;
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: kitkatz on November 16, 2006, 12:17:49 PM
Good going!  I have lost around 4 lbs since my parathyroidectomy.  I am at 89 dry wieught now instead of 91 kilos.  I guess it is okay.
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: jbeany on November 18, 2006, 06:21:25 PM
I had to go back and double check the date on the post in here when I found out that my BMI had to be under 30 to get on the list.  It was Oct. 17.  It's Nov 18th now, and my scale says I'm down 10 pounds since then.  10 pounds in a month - WHOO HOO!

Now if I can just keep that up for the next two months - I have the right BMI for the transplant list, if I can pass all the rest of the tests.  :cookie;  (The only kind of cookie I'm eating now - virtual!)

I don't know if my other health problems will keep me off the list - but I'm determined that my lack of self-control around dessert won't be the reason I'm refused!
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: kitkatz on November 18, 2006, 06:39:53 PM
Well folks.  I admit the ice cream boogey man got me today.  However I was out running around all day with the hubby.  We had lunch at Red Robin.  I admit I am not the best dieter in the world.  I have kept the four pounds I lost over the last three weeks off.  Hurray for me.  Now for another four.  A little at  a time.  I raked my yard the other day for exercise.  Damned trees.  I rake they blow more leaves down on my raked areas!  That is one way to exercise!

More tips from me:
1.  Change one thing at a time. Keep the change going for one month. Habits get ingrained over 30 days not overnight.
2.  If the craving stays for more than three days, give in and have some of the food you crave.
3.  Stop eating when you body says stop eating.  My body will make me nauseous now if I go one bite over when it says to stop.  Listen to it!
4. Dialysis changes the way your body acts towards food and fluid.  Be careful when you lose or gain weight.  Know your body.
5.  Keep a positive attitude.  If you can't, see Goofynina.  She is our resident cheerleader!  Love ya Goofynina!
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: mallory on November 20, 2006, 08:46:49 AM
I had to go back and double check the date on the post in here when I found out that my BMI had to be under 30 to get on the list. It was Oct. 17. It's Nov 18th now, and my scale says I'm down 10 pounds since then. 10 pounds in a month - WHOO HOO!
I have kept the four pounds I lost over the last three weeks off. Hurray for me. Now for another four. A little at a time. I raked my yard the other day for exercise. Damned trees. I rake they blow more leaves down on my raked areas! That is one way to exercise!

Way to go, jbeany and kitkatz!!  We can do this!  I was good this weekend, I hope I've lost a little more but I haven't weighed yet. 

Keep up the good work, you're doing great!
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: kitkatz on November 28, 2006, 06:16:01 AM
Almost six pound off in four and a half weeks. Left dialysis last night at 88.7. My dry weight is set at 91.  I have got to change that dry weight now.  But everytime I do I put the weight back on.  Drat!
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: jbeany on November 28, 2006, 06:18:24 AM
go kitkat!   :clap;
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: mallory on November 28, 2006, 11:05:44 AM
Almost six pound off in four and a half weeks. Left dialysis last night at 88.7. My dry weight is set at 91. I have got to change that dry weight now. But everytime I do I put the weight back on. Drat!

Fantastic, Kitkatz!  Looks like you made it through Thanksgiving without gaining, that's great!

I had an interesting Thanksgiving.  I woke up at 4:30 the morning of Thanksgiving and I was so sick to my stomach.  We thought it might be my kidneys, so we called the doctor around 10:00.  They said it probably wasn't, but to make sure I kept hydrated and if it got worse, to go to the emergency room.  They also said if I got a fever I should go to the ER because of the immunosuppressants I'm on. 

To make a long story short, I went to the ER that night, still sick as can be, I hadn't been able to keep even an ice chip down all day, and I had a temperature of 102.  They put me in the hospital, gave me a lot of IV's and stuff, and now I'm much, much better.

I think you always need to look for the positive when something happens to you, and here's the good news in this; I still haven't been able to eat much, and I've lost 16 pounds!  I'm not kidding!  So, altogether I have lost 20 pounds.

I was hoping I wouldn't gain weight over Thanksgiving, but I never expected to lose weight!





Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: jbeany on November 28, 2006, 12:27:11 PM
yikes mallory - that's not a good way to lose it!  Hope you're feeling better.
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: Sluff on November 28, 2006, 12:41:33 PM
9 more lbs will be a hundred for me.
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: kitkatz on November 28, 2006, 02:23:57 PM
Good going Sluff!  Wow!
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: Sluff on November 28, 2006, 02:46:36 PM
Thanks and your doing well also. :)
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: mallory on November 28, 2006, 02:46:50 PM
9 more lbs will be a hundred for me.

Sluff, that's FANTASTIC!  You're a role model for all of us!  You must have great willpower, that is so good. :grouphug;

yikes mallory - that's not a good way to lose it! Hope you're feeling better.

Thanks jbeany, I am feeling better.  I know it's not a good way to lose it, but right now, I'm just thankful that I did lose some, since I was sick anyway.  Usually when I get sick they raise my Prednisone and I gain weight.  This was a nice change.
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: Sluff on November 28, 2006, 05:26:55 PM
Don't give me too much credit cause I'm sure the meds had a lot to do with it, but I'll take some credit so thanks.
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: angieskidney on November 29, 2006, 11:08:09 PM
Even though I haven't read the last 4 pages (there are TOO MANY pages on IHD for me to keep up with every section!!) I wanted to add this thought (tell me if it has already been discussed):

I heard of how even though our dialysis pulls out a lot of our protein we want to keep and even though we can't eat most foods diet specialists tell anyone working out to eat, we can do one thing they do!! (I got this off the health channel here in Canada)

If we eat 6 times a day instead of 3! I was thinking about this and that makes so much sense! I mean, I tend to eat only 3 or usually even just 2 times a day! SOMETIMES even just once a day every day! So my body obviously thinks it is starving a lot and I am actually encouraging my body to lower its metabolism!!

If I ate more often I could eat smaller meals and not make my body go into the "I'm starving/I'm full" cycle!! It makes so much more sense to eat more often!

What do you guys think?
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: Fox_nc on November 29, 2006, 11:13:02 PM
I've heard this too Angie, and actually, my mom recently lost 35 pounds using this method.  She didn't diet, because she doesn't believe in it, but ate more times a day and made what she called "healthier decisions."  She's been overweight for at least 15 years and this has worked great for her.  I tried it before dialysis with no luck, but come to find out that extra 20 lbs I had put on was all "fluid"  :-)
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: angieskidney on November 29, 2006, 11:33:28 PM
I've heard this too Angie, and actually, my mom recently lost 35 pounds using this method.  She didn't diet, because she doesn't believe in it, but ate more times a day and made what she called "healthier decisions."  She's been overweight for at least 15 years and this has worked great for her.  I tried it before dialysis with no luck, but come to find out that extra 20 lbs I had put on was all "fluid"  :-)
Well then maybe you did lose but didn't realize it was the fluid? :P

Anyway, I have been really watching these shows and I ordered a free exercize booklet for dialysis patients (only available in the USA so I had to get Jeff to get it) but I am having a hard time ever since last summer when I got Peritonitis and ended up hospitalized for 6 weeks with pneumonia in the Cardiac Care Unit and went from 140lbs down to 112lbs by being so sick. I switched from PD to HD and I found I had lost so much muscle that it is harder for me to be active without being so tired. My Hemoglobin is 118 (so between 11 and 12) and I am tired out just by biking my bicycle to work and working 2 hrs reorganizing and refacing the shelves and biking back home.

What else would you suggest I do since I am unable to lose even 1 pound :(
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: anja on November 29, 2006, 11:47:06 PM
  Congrats to ALL of you !  I have been trying to lose but can't seem to get off the 77Kg mark by much.  Vascillate on either side by 1-1.5 kg. but keep coming back to 77.  I am going to try some of your tips. My weakness is nibbling at night while sitting here at the computer... Naughty, naughty, I know...mindless eating, but I keep doing it.  ( so far tonight I have had a whole grapefruit, 2 single popsicles and 5 pieces of sugar-free cinnamon hard candies)  Tried  chewing gum but have TMJ so pay for it later.  But I feel I can garner some will-power off all of you by reading this section loyally!   :thx;
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: Fox_nc on November 29, 2006, 11:50:33 PM
What else would you suggest I do since I am unable to lose even 1 pound :(

Honestly, when I have problems losing "weight" I try to avoid the numbers.  I know it's hard being weighed 3 times a week :-)  But sometimes it's easier to lose the weight if you concentrate more on how you feel.  How do your clothes fit?  Do you feel you look better?  That kind of thing.  The numbers can be stressful and discouraging.  I have friend who is in the nutrition/fitness industry and I asked her about losing weight with no energy and she suggested adding a small walk (5-10 minutes) to my routine every other day, which I do on non-dialysis days.  With all the walking and cycling you do, it might sound stupid, but your body is use to that exercise.  Just need to add a small amount to it to get some result.  Hope this helps!
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: sandman on November 30, 2006, 12:06:29 AM
There is a trick to loosing weight when you eat 6 times a day.  First of all, they need to be very small meals.   For example: one hotdog or a half of a sliced turkey sandwich.  Doing this keeps your stomach working and can give you more of an even flow of energy through the day.  BUT, you need to take advantage of this by doing a little excesize about 1 hour after you eat and don't eat with-in 3 hours of going to bed.
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: angieskidney on November 30, 2006, 01:00:11 AM
BUT, you need to take advantage of this by doing a little excesize about 1 hour after you eat and don't eat with-in 3 hours of going to bed.
That is the part I am bad at! :P Like Anja I eat at the computer (practically ALL the time!!) and so I snack on MORE than she does .. bags of corn chips (carbs carbs carbs .. but without exercize I know I am being real stupid!  :-\) and only eating snack foods and then finally going to the kitchen for real food only when I am really hungry and snacks aren't filling me up .. ya maybe that is why I am not losing any weight but only gaining .5kg every other week  steadily since I started gaining weight from being sick..
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: mallory on November 30, 2006, 08:56:26 AM
Anja and Angie, I'm a snacker. too.  But, one of the most valuable things I learned at Weight Watchers (I've tried them all!) was to snack on the right things.  Anja, just try sugar-free popsicles, they have very few calories and they're really good.  Try carrot sticks or celery sticks.  Or, I mix a little apple cider vinegar, Splenda and a tiny bit of water and put it on cucumber slices. 

If you're careful, you can eat quite a few snacks without adding many calories.  You can do this!  I believe that ESRD patients can do anything, look at what we're already doing!  If we can cope with this disease, we can do anything!! :grouphug;
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: angela515 on November 30, 2006, 10:23:19 AM
Snacking is a big issue for me too. I feel hungry all the time, but I believe that is because I am probably thirsty. They say if your hungry drink an 8oz glass of water, and wait 20 mins to see how hungry you really are because most people are actually thirsty when they think their hungry. For us however, we can't do that.. as we have to watch our fluids... so MAYBE we really ARE thirsty more often then not when we think were hungry... but nothing we can really do to satisfy that feeling but eat right now. So like mallory noted, I agree.. snack, but snack well... I have been eating carrot sticks and celery sticks lately, there pretty filling. Sucking on sugar-free hard candies is good too... they last awhile and something is in your mouth, so you cant eat anything else till its gone,  :lol; 

I don't know about anyone else, but one of the most frustrating things for ME, is having to stand on the scale everynight and every morning (cause im on PD)... I wish it could be once a week... because I hate standing up there seeing gains... and then in the morning I am back to my "normal dry weight" but its the same # all the time, meaning i'm not losing weight, and it takes time to lose weight, but weighing everyday makes me feel like I aint getting nowhere...  :banghead;

Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: angieskidney on December 01, 2006, 06:52:53 AM
Snacking is a big issue for me too. I feel hungry all the time, but I believe that is because I am probably thirsty. They say if your hungry drink an 8oz glass of water, and wait 20 mins to see how hungry you really are because most people are actually thirsty when they think their hungry. For us however, we can't do that.. as we have to watch our fluids... so MAYBE we really ARE thirsty more often then not when we think were hungry... 
Ya I have come to the same conclusion myself ;)
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: sandman on December 01, 2006, 06:50:26 PM
Snacking is a big issue for me too. I feel hungry all the time, but I believe that is because I am probably thirsty. They say if your hungry drink an 8oz glass of water, and wait 20 mins to see how hungry you really are because most people are actually thirsty when they think their hungry. For us however, we can't do that.. as we have to watch our fluids... so MAYBE we really ARE thirsty more often then not when we think were hungry... 
Ya I have come to the same conclusion myself ;)

Really  ???  I have never thought of it that way.  When I notice my stomach growl, I know I am hungry and when my mouth is dry, I know it's time for a drink.  I just never thought of it any other way.  Interesting.
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: jbeany on December 01, 2006, 07:14:10 PM
Add diabetes into the mix, and you never know what the problem is . . . high blood sugar makes me thirsty.  Low makes me feel hungry.  Hard to listen to the body's natural signals when all the wires are crossed!
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: Sluff on December 01, 2006, 08:25:12 PM
I have diabetes and am always thirsty.
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: angieskidney on December 01, 2006, 09:07:33 PM
Snacking is a big issue for me too. I feel hungry all the time, but I believe that is because I am probably thirsty. They say if your hungry drink an 8oz glass of water, and wait 20 mins to see how hungry you really are because most people are actually thirsty when they think their hungry. For us however, we can't do that.. as we have to watch our fluids... so MAYBE we really ARE thirsty more often then not when we think were hungry... 
Ya I have come to the same conclusion myself ;)

Really  ???  I have never thought of it that way.  When I notice my stomach growl, I know I am hungry and when my mouth is dry, I know it's time for a drink.  I just never thought of it any other way.  Interesting.
I didn't before dialysis neither but when you are on dialysis .. you have to figure out new things ;)
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: mallory on December 05, 2006, 03:35:55 PM
Well, here at my job the holiday eating has started.  They bring in treats every day for the month of December.  But, so far, I've resisted.  Here's a link to a website that gives good tips on diet and exercise for the holidays, hope it helps. 

http://www.webmd.com/solutions/healthy-holidays

Keep trying, everyone, we're all doing GREAT!! :grouphug;
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: Sluff on December 06, 2006, 04:54:17 AM
My doctor says the best way to watch your diet is to just push yourself away from the table.  ::) ::)
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: BigSky on December 06, 2006, 08:45:25 AM
One thing some might want to do is supplement your diet with a fiber supplement.  It can help in the area of hunger and it helps in shall we say the biological process of removing excess K in dialysis patients.   ;)
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: sandman on December 06, 2006, 06:22:35 PM
I have found that doing something the burns energy fast about an hour after you eat works pretty well.  If you have stairs at your place of residence, try walking up and down then a few times if you can.
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: Sluff on December 08, 2006, 10:25:26 PM
I have found that doing something the burns energy fast about an hour after you eat works pretty well.  If you have stairs at your place of residence, try walking up and down then a few times if you can.

I'll get right on that. LOL Jk :D
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: angieskidney on December 09, 2006, 03:56:59 AM
I have found that doing something the burns energy fast about an hour after you eat works pretty well.  If you have stairs at your place of residence, try walking up and down then a few times if you can.
My hemoglobin dropped a bit and I have been under the weather lately. It seems I have less energy to do those stairs. :P YOU do them for me ;) lol  :clap;
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: kitkatz on December 09, 2006, 12:05:59 PM
stairs? What stairs?   Oh those things that have steps.  Nope.  I am jumping to conclusions and flying off the handle around here for my exercise.
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: goofynina on December 09, 2006, 01:49:35 PM
*ahem* can you please direct me to the ESCALATOR or the ELEVATOR,  i aint doing no stairs, lol,  i'd die  :P   i simply have no muscle left in my legs, they are gone, kaput,  i have a hard time simply stepping up a curb, and you want me to do stairs, brutha puhlease ;)
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: sandman on December 09, 2006, 08:39:45 PM
I am jumping to conclusions and flying off the handle around here for my exercise.

HAHA, nice one kit.

Listen ladies.  I know I am not the best person to offer you exercise tips but I am trying.  Maybe someone with better knowledge of the situation can offer up some suggestions?
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: angieskidney on December 09, 2006, 09:55:23 PM
I am jumping to conclusions and flying off the handle around here for my exercise.

HAHA, nice one kit.

Listen ladies.  I know I am not the best person to offer you exercise tips but I am trying.  Maybe someone with better knowledge of the situation can offer up some suggestions?
Well if I get off my ass it would make sense if I post all the exercises meant for dialysis patients that Sandman got me and brought over when he visited. The book is: 

Exercise: A Guide for the People on DIalysis by Patricia Painter, PhD (Available to any American for FREE).


Infact, this is from my forums (http://angiee1973.proboards42.com/index.cgi?board=exercise&action=display&thread=1165730435&page=1#1165730435):
Quote
Exercise: A Guide for People on Dialysis
(http://kidney.niddk.nih.gov/about/Research_Updates/win01-02/images/exercise.gif)
is available free of charge (in the U.S.*) from
the Rehabilitation Resource Center,
414 D'Onofrio Drive, Suite 200,
Madison, WI 53719.

Phone: 1–800–468–7777.
Fax: 608–833–8366.
Email: lifeoptions (lifeoptions@MEIresearch.org).

The book can be printed from a PDF (download free!) file at www.lifeoptions.org (http://www.lifeoptions.org/).

Here is the ORDER FORM (http://www.lifeoptions.org/orders.php)  but I didn't see everything listed so you can call them toll free ;)
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: kitkatz on December 09, 2006, 10:22:10 PM
I go that years ago. My sister found it on the internet.
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: kitkatz on December 10, 2006, 12:03:49 AM
Holy crap! I  just found out 30 BMI is 30 pounds from here!  Crap! Crap! Crap! 
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: sandman on December 10, 2006, 12:06:32 AM
What is BMI?  And what are you talking about?  30 pounds from what?
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: kitkatz on December 10, 2006, 12:11:56 AM
Body Mass Index.  You got to be at or below 30 BMI to be transplanted.  The only way I have found to lose weight on dialysis is to get reallly, really sick!  I do not advise this wieght loss system to anyone.
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: sandman on December 10, 2006, 12:22:55 AM
Can you tell me more about this body mass index?
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: angieskidney on December 10, 2006, 12:32:31 AM
Body Mass Index.  You got to be at or below 30 BMI to be transplanted.  The only way I have found to lose weight on dialysis is to get reallly, really sick!  I do not advise this wieght loss system to anyone.

Ya ... no kidding  :( :( :( :'(


Last year I dropped from 140 lbs to 112 lbs because I was so sick I couldn't eat. I ended up also losing my hair.. a sure sign that I was NOT healthy. NO ONE wants to lose weight THAT way :(


And even though being size 3 was nice for awhile  ::) now I am over 140 heading to 150lbs and can't seem to stop gaining :(

.. I know .. I know ... I am still small .. but I worry that what if I keep just gaining and gaining and gaining and never get a transplant. I find it so very very hard to lose any weight on dialysis :(  :banghead;


btw, here are BMI calculators & info!
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: Fox_nc on December 10, 2006, 12:34:21 AM
Can you tell me more about this body mass index?


Body mass index (BMI) is a measure of body fat based on height and weight that applies to both adult men and women. 

BMI Calculator (http://www.nhlbisupport.com/bmi/)
About BMI Calculator (http://www.cdc.gov/nccdphp/dnpa/bmi/adult_BMI/english_bmi_calculator/bmi_calculator.htm)
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: angieskidney on December 10, 2006, 12:37:09 AM
lol @ Foxy! We found the same one! :P  :2thumbsup; :clap;



According to THIS (http://www.consumer.gov/weightloss/bmi.htm) site I am 23.5 BMI which is almost overweight for my height... but still normal! PHEW! lol



Here is another BMI calculator (http://www.healthcentral.com/diet-exercise/index-1688-143.html) done in lbs and feet and inches
Quote
A Few Things to Remember About BMI

Remember that your BMI is only one way of assessing your general health and risk for disease. A complete picture of your health risks depends on a variety of other factors, such as your family health history and your occupation.

Also, keep in mind that BMI does not measure your body composition - how much fat and muscle you have. So a person who has a lot of muscle, like a professional bodybuilder, may be "overweight" by BMI standards but not at risk for weight-related health problems.

And here is ANOTHER BMI Calculator for all countries (options on measurements): http://www.dr-bob.org/tips/bmi.html
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: sandman on December 10, 2006, 12:48:15 AM
I have a BMI of 23.7.  In the normal range.  :clap;  Thanks Foxy and Angie.
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: Sluff on December 10, 2006, 08:04:44 AM
I have a BMI of 23.7.  In the normal range.  :clap;  Thanks Foxy and Angie.

Well aren't you special. ;) :)

40.5
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: angela515 on December 10, 2006, 08:33:07 AM
Underweight = <18.5
Normal weight = 18.5-24.9
Overweight = 25-29.9
Obesity = BMI of 30 or greater


My BMI is 26.4 ....  :-\
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: angieskidney on December 10, 2006, 02:40:56 PM
The exercise book that I have has a lot of advice I should post here.
(Exercise: A Guide for the People on DIalysis)

**flips thru book**

oooh

What You Need to Succeed:
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: sandman on December 10, 2006, 02:57:09 PM
WOW!  Excellent post Angie.  :2thumbsup;
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: mallory on December 19, 2006, 01:52:45 PM
Oh, crap!  I can't believe this!  I'm already overweight, I had to lose 80 pounds before I'd be considered for a transplant.  I got sick on Thanksgiving, a couple of other things, I lost 20 pounds.  Great!  I started PD about two weeks ago, it makes me feel so full that I can't eat very much, so I'm thinking I'll probably lose more.  But NO!  I have gained 5 stinking pounds!  What the heck?!  Am I doing something wrong?  I do PD 4 times a day, I use 1.5 % solution during the day and 2.5% overnight.  I'm only using 1500 ml., instead of the whole 2000.

I only eat 2 slices of dry toast for breakfast, and someting like an apple for lunch, and then I try to eat some protein for dinner.  Why am I gaining weight?!  I'm not getting much exercise because my BP is so low, but I swear I'm not eating that much. 

This is frustrating.
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: mallory on December 20, 2006, 09:58:18 AM
Okay, I lost one pound today.  But, still, it doesn't seem like I should be gaining weight.  Does the PD solution really have that much impact on you?  I'm going to have to stop eating altogether to lose weight.
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: BigSky on December 20, 2006, 10:12:35 AM
Okay, I lost one pound today.  But, still, it doesn't seem like I should be gaining weight.  Does the PD solution really have that much impact on you?  I'm going to have to stop eating altogether to lose weight.

From what I have heard is it does affect some this way and others it does not.  Never been on PD so I do not know much on the specifics on if their is a way to avoid intake of calories from the solution mixture.

This may sound weird but in addition to exercise you might need to eat more.  From what you list you eat your metabolism might be trying to shut down as it feels the body is being starved.  Try eating 5-6 small meals a day.   This can help keep the metabolism up as it feels its being constantly fed.

 
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: mallory on December 20, 2006, 10:39:02 AM
Thanks, BigSky, and you might be right.  I'm hardly eating anything, so maybe I need to eat a little more, in small meals.  I'm going to try it.
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: kitkatz on December 20, 2006, 08:33:43 PM
I feel that way too sometimes and stoipping eating just sends your body into starvation mode and you will keep what fat you already have.   Unfortunately I have not found a dieting solution to dialysis yet.
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: goofynina on December 21, 2006, 05:52:10 PM
When i couldnt walk and was bedridden, i couldnt get up and get what i wanted, when i wanted, i really didnt have an appetite so i didnt eat much and that is how i lost the most weight ever, but damn, once i started walking again, that was all over  :-\
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: angela515 on December 24, 2006, 08:09:07 AM
Okay, I lost one pound today.  But, still, it doesn't seem like I should be gaining weight.  Does the PD solution really have that much impact on you?  I'm going to have to stop eating altogether to lose weight.

You shouldn't be getting any of the calories from the solution unless your aborbing the solution. When you fill, and then dwell, you should drain the exact amount you put in, or more depending on if you have extra fluid to remove. If you drain less then what you put in, your abosribing fluding and then you would be adding the calories from the solution. Otherwise if your not absorbing the fluid your not getting the calories, or not enough to make you gain weight anyways. Hope I explained that easy enough.
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: mallory on January 02, 2007, 10:33:15 AM
You shouldn't be getting any of the calories from the solution unless your absorbing the solution. When you fill, and then dwell, you should drain the exact amount you put in, or more depending on if you have extra fluid to remove. If you drain less then what you put in, your abosribing fluding and then you would be adding the calories from the solution. Otherwise if your not absorbing the fluid your not getting the calories, or not enough to make you gain weight anyways. Hope I explained that easy enough.

Thanks, Angela.  That does make sense.  I was always draining more than I put in when I was on manual, but now, on the cycler, sometimes I do and sometimes I don't.  I still haven't lost any weight, but at least I stopped gaining weight.  There for a couple of days I was afraid I was going to gain 2 pounds a day on dialysis. 

I really think that if you get a serious health issue, like kidney failure, you should lose weight if you're overweight.  That seems only fair.  I wouldn't want skinny people to lose more weight and have trouble, but for all of us who would like to lose, I think it should just be a part of our symptoms.  I'd love it if I could tell my doctor "I just keep losing weight, I eat everything I can, but the weight is just falling off me!  Oh, poor me!"
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: jbeany on January 02, 2007, 03:15:07 PM
 

I really think that if you get a serious health issue, like kidney failure, you should lose weight if you're overweight.  That seems only fair.  I wouldn't want skinny people to lose more weight and have trouble, but for all of us who would like to lose, I think it should just be a part of our symptoms.  I'd love it if I could tell my doctor "I just keep losing weight, I eat everything I can, but the weight is just falling off me!  Oh, poor me!"

Sounds fair to me!   :D  My sister asked me if going on dialysis would make me lose weight, since she knew I needed to drop more pounds to get on the transplant list.  She thought it should make it easier for me, too.  Too bad it's nothing but water weight that comes right back the next day! 

I can't complain though - if I really was losing weight, it would mean the dialysis wasn't working well for me.  I'd rather be doing well on it, and have to lose the pounds the old fashioned way.  I may never love exercise, but I'm glad I can handle more than a few minutes of it at a time now.
Title: I wish fat could be transplanted
Post by: raina on January 09, 2007, 06:12:58 PM
I was pretty, um, rotund before I got sick then I couldnt' keep food down so I lost 100 lbs just from being sick and now I'm too skinny and my doc wants me to put on 20 pounds.  I'm trying to eat more food but its not as easy as it sounds when I'm sick all the time.
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: tamara on February 08, 2007, 04:36:42 AM
well, I lost three kilo's this week, after 4 aqua aerobics classes and walking at least half hour each day, so heres to my next loss !  :beer1;
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: Sluff on February 08, 2007, 05:18:34 AM
well, I lost three kilo's this week, after 4 aqua aerobics classes and walking at least half hour each day, so heres to my next loss !  :beer1;



Good for you Tamara!!

 :beer1; :beer1; :beer1;

Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: Zach on February 08, 2007, 08:44:50 AM
well, I lost three kilo's this week, after 4 aqua aerobics classes and walking at least half hour each day...

That's great, Tamara!
Aqua aerobics are a great way to exercise and lose weight.  It's not just for the elderly. Congrats!!
 :beer1;
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: goofynina on February 08, 2007, 03:53:09 PM
well, I lost three kilo's this week, after 4 aqua aerobics classes and walking at least half hour each day, so heres to my next loss !  :beer1;


Ohhhhhh Great!!!!  I think i just found those three kilo's you lost tamara, they are stuck here on my butt :P :P   nah,  that is awesome, keep up the great work girlfriend.... You can do this  :clap;
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: kitkatz on February 08, 2007, 04:36:45 PM
I think I am fighting you for those three kilos, Goofynina!   I am stress eating again and I know it!  Good job on your exercising and weight loss!
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: angela515 on February 08, 2007, 07:06:40 PM
 :2thumbsup; :clap; keep up the good work!
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: glitter on February 09, 2007, 09:13:29 PM
I am too in shape......  Round is a shape.  :P
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: Sluff on February 09, 2007, 09:15:30 PM
I have lost a total of 93 lbs.
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: glitter on February 09, 2007, 09:29:18 PM
wow that is really excellent sluff-I have an enormous amount to lose and it is really really hard to get on the right track-and i dont have the kidney issues-I would like to find the ____________ whatever is is that seems to be my problem in getting started,so I can suck it up and just DO it-food has been such a huge part of my life...give us some advice...its always easier to get advice from someone who can truely relate...my 115 lb sister tries to give me advice I just want to slap her... >:D  How did you start to lose?
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: tamara on February 09, 2007, 10:26:10 PM
Thanks for the congratulations peoples, just wish me more luck so I can get under 80 kg real quick , the quicker I do it maybe my transplant with Allan will happen sooner ! (Currently at 84.5 dry weight), when started dialysis big fatty chunka at 105kg LOL
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: Zach on February 10, 2007, 06:57:50 AM
I have lost a total of 93 lbs.

A BIG congrats to you Sluff!!
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: angela515 on February 10, 2007, 02:54:32 PM
Congrats sluff!!  :2thumbsup;  And yes, please share us your advice!! :D
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: Sluff on February 10, 2007, 03:35:25 PM
Truthfully i just think it's the side effects of cyclosporine. When you don't feel good you don't want to eat. No magical solution here. Thanks for the roses though.
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: kitkatz on February 10, 2007, 04:06:13 PM
Yes, the magic to losing weight is STOP EATING AND EXERCISE!  Aren't you sick of hearing this all of the time?
If I could do that it would be easy!
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: kelliOR on February 10, 2007, 05:34:32 PM
When I want to start loosing weight, the first thing I do is  stop eating after 6:30 at night.  Not one bite!  Its hard, since I've always been a muncher, but after a few days,  I start to see results. 
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: glitter on February 10, 2007, 07:06:45 PM
Yes, the magic to losing weight is STOP EATING AND EXERCISE!  Aren't you sick of hearing this all of the time?
If I could do that it would be easy!

yeah I know it sounds so easy-right? I think most people who are morbidly obese have other issues,and food is mis-used as a symptom.

For me-it is a comfort,sometimes the only comfort I can find....and that is a very powerful thing.
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: angela515 on February 10, 2007, 07:38:29 PM
People who are morbidly obese, unless they have a medical condition causing it... I believe did it to themselves. I mean c'mon.. if I saw myself getting way too big and could see where it was heading... I would look at my diet, my lifestyle... Most poeple who are over-weight nowadays, (NOT ALL), eat out alot... and the portion sizes have grown dramatically over the years... everything is supersized now... when we go to a restaurant, I can never eat everything they give me on my plate.... Not to mention most people overweight don't exercise anymore, a sedetary lifestyle has taken over this country for most people... (again, not all)... So, when your weight becomes that of morbid obesity, and you have no medical condition causing it.. you need to stop, take a look into your life from the outside, and see what is going on.

Yes, comfort eating is a big thing too... however, like I mentioned, if your becoming severly obese, you need to stop, look at your life, and try to fix the problems. Not saying you can fix whatever is causing to comfort eat, but there comes a point in time you need to look at what your eating, and how much... and stop trying to blame everyone else for your weight.

(This isn't for someone who is just "overweight", i specifically said "morbidly obese" or "severly obese" on the verge of morbidly obese.)
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: Amanda From OZ on February 10, 2007, 07:52:06 PM
Congrats on the weightloss everyone. Well done!

I believe that everyone who wants to lose weight can. I think you have to personally push yourself and keep motivated. I don't think there is any excuse unless you are seriously not feeling well, and if you dialyze right then you should feel OK. Even when i am sooooooooooooooo tired and weak i still go for a run or the gym. For example last night i came home after being out all night (1am) and i went on the treadmill for half an hour because i didn't go to the gym that day. I was not feeling well yet i pushed myself because i new it was important.

The most important thing is that people are healthy as possible and feel good about how they look regardless of their size..
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: charee on February 10, 2007, 08:02:48 PM
People who are morbidly obese, unless they have a medical condition causing it... I believe did it to themselves. I mean c'mon.. if I saw myself getting way too big and could see where it was heading... I would look at my diet, my lifestyle... Most poeple who are over-weight nowadays, (NOT ALL), eat out alot... and the portion sizes have grown dramatically over the years... everything is supersized now... when we go to a restaurant, I can never eat everything they give me on my plate.... Not to mention most people overweight don't exercise anymore, a sedetary lifestyle has taken over this country for most people... (again, not all)... So, when your weight becomes that of morbid obesity, and you have no medical condition causing it.. you need to stop, take a look into your life from the outside, and see what is going on.

Yes, comfort eating is a big thing too... however, like I mentioned, if your becoming severly obese, you need to stop, look at your life, and try to fix the problems. Not saying you can fix whatever is causing to comfort eat, but there comes a point in time you need to look at what your eating, and how much... and stop trying to blame everyone else for your weight.

(This isn't for someone who is just "overweight", i specifically said "morbidly obese" or "severly obese" on the verge of morbidly obese.)
Have you Ever had a weight Problem ??
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: angela515 on February 10, 2007, 08:08:00 PM
Yes.. and I am still currently trying to lose weight. HOWEVER, I am not "morbidly-obese" and that is who I was referring too... and I dont care what anyone says, unless its caused by a medical condition... it is THAT person's OWN fault to let themselves get that much overweight. I am not talking about someone who is just "overweight" I am talking about MORBIDLY OBESE.
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: okarol on February 10, 2007, 08:12:17 PM
   How to Begin a Walking Program


Walking is the easiest way for you to begin the exercise habit. Not only can you do it almost anywhere... it's free!

Time Required: Varies

Here's How:

   1. If you have been physically inactive for some time, or you have any health problems be sure to let your doctor know you are starting a walking regime. Proceed only with his approval.
   2. Now's the time to invest in a really good pair of sneakers. Pay special attention to the support your feet receive, and, of course comfort is key.
   3. Plot your course. Your own street, a walking track at a park, the mall... find a location that you know you will enjoy. A great walking route can turn your walk into a mini-vacation!
   4. Make a date with yourself. You need to make your walking routine a priority, just like any other appointment. Make the date and stick to it.
   5. Have a back up plan. What if it starts raining cats and dogs? Plan to take your walk indoors at the mall, or, buy a walking exercise video.
   6. Get moving! Starting slow is fine! Just 10 minutes of easy walking is better than none at all, right? When you begin to feel stronger, add five minute intervals. Make it your goal to walk three times a week.
   7. Push up to five times a week. When you feel ready, up your pace. Before you know it you'll be a true fitness walker... and just watch those pounds peeling off!


Tips:

   1. Remember, the surface you choose to walk on makes a difference. Gravel, sand, pavement, or the mall floor all have their own challenges and benefits. Find out what works best for you.
   2. Be ready for a little soreness. Standard pain relievers like Advil will help.
   3. When you've moved up to about a half hour walk, be sure to stretch some before you begin walking.
   4. You may want to invest in a pedometer. Then, keep track of how far you go each time you walk and chart your progress. What a great motivator!




from: http://weightloss.about.com/c/ht/01/05/How_Walking_Program0990990678.htm
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: Sluff on February 10, 2007, 08:45:40 PM
Yes.. and I am still currently trying to lose weight. HOWEVER, I am not "morbidly-obese" and that is who I was referring too... and I dont care what anyone says, unless its caused by a medical condition... it is THAT person's OWN fault to let themselves get that much overweight. I am not talking about someone who is just "overweight" I am talking about MORBIDLY OBESE.

I am morbidly obese. Just less than I was and no I couldn't help it because my metabolism was all screwed up until I got on the cyclosporine. Maybe it's all in my head I don't know but When the cyclosporine was helping me not lose protein I lost weight, the past two months when the protein loss has gotten worse I loss less weight. Coincidence?  When the meds were working I lost 7lbs a month consistently but now the meds are not working as they should and I'm only averaging 2 lbs a month.

For what it's worth, you are entitled to your opinion but I disagree. When you are hungry you will eat. Regardless how obese you are.
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: glitter on February 10, 2007, 09:37:53 PM
People who are morbidly obese, unless they have a medical condition causing it... I believe did it to themselves. I mean c'mon.. if I saw myself getting way too big and could see where it was heading... I would look at my diet, my lifestyle... Most poeple who are over-weight nowadays, (NOT ALL), eat out alot... and the portion sizes have grown dramatically over the years... everything is supersized now... when we go to a restaurant, I can never eat everything they give me on my plate.... Not to mention most people overweight don't exercise anymore, a sedetary lifestyle has taken over this country for most people... (again, not all)... So, when your weight becomes that of morbid obesity, and you have no medical condition causing it.. you need to stop, take a look into your life from the outside, and see what is going on.

Yes, comfort eating is a big thing too... however, like I mentioned, if your becoming severly obese, you need to stop, look at your life, and try to fix the problems. Not saying you can fix whatever is causing to comfort eat, but there comes a point in time you need to look at what your eating, and how much... and stop trying to blame everyone else for your weight.

(This isn't for someone who is just "overweight", i specifically said "morbidly obese" or "severly obese" on the verge of morbidly obese.)

 I did not say I blamed ANYONE other then myself.

I think it is easy to judge very fat people,I also don't think most really fat people blame other people for their weight problem.I think fat issues
are within each individual,and  if it was a simple fix, no-one would be fat-who would CHOOSE fatness?

By your reasoning why is just 'overweight' okay? Why not judge people who are a little overweight too? I mean it is just self-control right?
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: charee on February 11, 2007, 12:18:30 AM



 I did not say I blamed ANYONE other then myself.

I think it is easy to judge very fat people,I also don't think most really fat people blame other people for their weight problem.I think fat issues
are within each individual,and  if it was a simple fix, no-one would be fat-who would CHOOSE fatness?

By your reasoning why is just 'overweight' okay? Why not judge people who are a little overweight too? I mean it is just self-control right?

 Couldn't say it better myself :thumbup;
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: angela515 on February 11, 2007, 09:22:38 AM
I didn't say you blamed anyone either, infact I was not referring to anyone on this site. I was watching a show on obese people and I was listening to their stories, and most if not all, blamed the world and society for them being over weight, and didnt take any responsibility for what they put in their mouth.

I don't judge "fat people", I judge people who can't seem to take responsibility for their weight issues. Obviously people who are morbidly obese chose fatness... as they were not born this way. In fact, the people I seen on this show weren't this way until there late 20's and 30's... and nobody forced them to eat fast food... nobody forced them to eat all the fatty foods they chose to eat... nobody stopped them from walking, and getting some form of exercise... THEY chose that. They weren't skinnny one day and the next morbidly obese... no it took them years to get that way, years of seeing themselves getting fatter, yet they didn't change any bad habits... if anything they used their fatness as an excuse to eat more beause (in their words) "i'm going to be fat anyways, I might as well enjoy whatever I want..".. so yah, those people did choose to be the way they are.

I never once said being "overweight" was ok either... however I was focusing on the morbidly obese in this convrsation, howveer if you would like to get into overweight people, we can. No problem.  :thumbup;
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: kitkatz on February 11, 2007, 09:24:21 AM
Let me get out the lawn chair here. The fire works are about to start and it is not even the fourth of July yet! :popcorn; :popcorn;
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: BigSky on February 11, 2007, 09:54:56 AM
I think it is easy to judge very fat people,I also don't think most really fat people blame other people for their weight problem.I think fat issues
are within each individual,and  if it was a simple fix, no-one would be fat-who would CHOOSE fatness?


It is very true more likely than not that no one wants to be fat.  However they say one thing and do quite the other.   Yes I did make the same poor choices myself.

People DO CHOOSE to be fat.  They choose this by the food and exercise choices they make.

It doesn't take much to get fat.  Eating just 250 more calories than you burn off in one day alone and it will make you gain 26 pounds in a year. Do that 4 years and you just gained over 100 extra pounds.  That 250 calories equates to just under two ounces of tater chips a day.  When you think about it two ounces of chips isnt a whole lot.

So in essence it is a very simple fix to correct it, however it is also just as simple to fall off of that fix.

I might also add that no one gets fat overnight, so do not think it will come off overnight.  It is said it will take just as long to take it off as it did to put it on.  However from past experience I have to say I had a whole lot more fun putting it on then I do taking it off. ;D

Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: glitter on February 11, 2007, 01:30:48 PM
Okay I stand corrected-being fat IS the result of a series of bad choices. However Angela-you gave your opinion as a reply to my speaking of eating as comfort-
Quote
Yes, comfort eating is a big thing too... however, like I mentioned, if your becoming severely obese, you need to stop, look at your life, and try to fix the problems. Not saying you can fix whatever is causing to comfort eat, but there comes a point in time you need to look at what your eating, and how much... and stop trying to blame everyone else for your weight
Quote
I didn't say you blamed anyone either, infact I was not referring to anyone on this site. I was watching a show on obese people and I was listening to their stories, and most if not all, blamed the world and society for them being over weight, and didnt take any responsibility for what they put in their mouth.

so no where in your post do you mention some TV show you saw-and you did not say it was people on tv blaming others for their weight-you said it in a post right here,as a reply.

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(This isn't for someone who is just "overweight", i specifically said "morbidly obese" or "severely obese" on the verge of morbidly obese.

so your saying your opinion only applies to very overweight people like myself...and not people who are only minorly overweight like yourself......BS


Besides of which I posted in a thread titled SUPPORT GROUP to other posters who are also very obese,I don't think your opinion on the morbidly obese even begins to be called 'support'




Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: angela515 on February 11, 2007, 01:53:02 PM
Okay I stand corrected-being fat IS the result of a series of bad choices. However Angela-you gave your opinion as a reply to my speaking of eating as comfort-

Yes I did... I wasn't allowed too??

Quote
so no where in your post do you mention some TV show you saw-and you did not say it was people on TV blaming others for their weight-you said it in a post right here,as a reply.

I mentioned it either in my first post, or second, either way, it was mentioned. I can mention it again though, no prob. The TV show I saw on obese people, was basically interviewing these people trying to find out how they got to the point they were at. I don't think 1 person took responsibility for what they put in their mouth... and at the end of the day it DOES come down to what your eating. Back to comfort-eating.. you can still "comfort eat" and control WHAT it is your eating. Comfort eating does not mean you can only eat fatty foods, or sweets... you choose to eat those things. As for blaming society, and other people.. thats what they did, how is it anyones fault but your own what you eat???? When your eating out, the portions these days are way more than anyone should be eating in one sittings... hasn't anyone heard of limiting how much you eat also?

Quote
(This isn't for someone who is just "overweight", i specifically said "morbidly obese" or "severely obese" on the verge of morbidly obese.
Quote

so your saying your opinion only applies to very overweight people like myself...and not people who are only minorly overweight like yourself......BS


Besides of which I posted in a thread titled SUPPORT GROUP to other posters who are also very obese,I don't think your opinion on the morbidly obese even begins to be called 'support'

I never said my opinion only applies to severely overweight people... I said thats what my discussion started about, that and morbidly obese people.  I also never said it doesn't apply to minorly overweight people either... I just mentioned what I was talking about and pointing out. Personally, I don't think I'm overweight.. I wear a size 12 in jeans, to me I could lose a few lbs, but more importantly a few inches.. but according to my BMI, it says I am "overweight". So if thats the case, and I am in fact overweight, then I obviously need to change some habits myself, and I know I do, however I know I cant do the exercise I need to do to get into shape for another few weeks, due to still  healing, so I am enjoying eating the foods I have not  been able to eat in almost 3 years. Obviously I should be changing what I am eating if I'm overweight, and I will... one thing at a time.. as to not overwhelm myself and quit.

As for the topic of this thread, I thought it fit, but I can certainly start a new thread discussing this. I shall do that after I post this.
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: glitter on February 11, 2007, 02:24:52 PM
yep-you can say anything you want to-I never said you couldn't.


Quote
I mentioned it either in my first post, or second, either way, it was mentioned.

nope-not mentioned

It seems that it is politcally correct to say hateful things to fat people,wether they are morbidly obese,or just a little fat.

It does seem to me-like everytime I try to stick my neck out there on this subject-some mostly skinny person is always there to tell me its my own fault.  Of course it is.
Does it make you feel better as a person to point out to fat people what they already know? Or were you just trying to 'enlighten' me?



Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: angela515 on February 11, 2007, 02:36:48 PM
Wow glitter, you sure take something that was never pointed directly at you very personally. I was speaking in GENERAL, and to be honest I didnt know you were overweight, so therefore my posts were NEVER pointed directly at you, or anyone else here for that matter. I was just stating an opinion on a subject that I feel needs to be discussed.

Obviously people who are SEVERLY AND MORBIDLY overweight DONT know they have a problem, or they would TRY to do something about it. Even if it was just one little thing at a time.. and doing it slowly... they would TRY, for the people who dont try, they obviously dont know they have a problem, or they could care less about the problem, one of the two.  It SADDENS me to know that someone has a problem but chooses to not do anything to change it. I could careless if somoene is overweight but there happy with how they are, and will have no medical issues come about b/c of it... however, most ppl who are that much overweight, arent happy with it.

And no, it dont make me happy as a person to point it out as you mentioned, but it does bring me happiness to know I want to help people and very happy when they except the help.




EDITED: Keep This Thread on Topic. Sluff, Moderator

 New Thread Started to discuss / debate Obesity here: http://ihatedialysis.com/forum/index.php?topic=2662.0              
           
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: goofynina on February 11, 2007, 02:56:47 PM
Angela, this is supposed to be a support group, from your posts, i see no support, just scolding (if thats what you want to call it)  Why cant you say something to us "morbidly obese" and i consider myself morbidly obese, why cant you say something positive like,  let today be the first day of the rest of your life, whatever reason got you this way, let it go, you know, it isnt like i just said, oh, i am going to eat all of this and i am going to get fat, oh well,  some (me for one)  look to food for comfort, for security for things that has happend to me in my past (that you have no clue) ,  food helps me forget all the bad things that has happend to me, although i have an awesome hubby and awesome friends and family, that still doesnt take away the happiness and the satisfaction i get with food.  So before you start this bullshit about why you say fat people are fat,  have a little compassion and think about what they could've happend to them to get them this way.  After all, you did say you want to "help" people,  well then help them, dont condem them before you get the facts.

Glitter, your beautiful girlfriend, keep on keepin' on ;)
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: angela515 on February 11, 2007, 03:03:47 PM
I will just shut my mouth.  No problem. You wont here another word out of me.

Oh and BTW glitter, yah, keep on keepin on... even though I WASNT talking to you or about you, yet you wanted to make it personal.  :thumbup;
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: kitkatz on February 12, 2007, 06:20:02 PM
Going back to the support topic started here.  I think everyone needs to be aware of what they are eating and when they are eating it.   I can often forget I have eaten something and then compound the error by eating again.  *Sigh* 
Anyway my lovely ones out there, make yourself a healthy meal at least once a day.
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: angela515 on February 17, 2007, 02:19:53 PM
Dieting on dialysis is not easy by far... I remember trying to diet on dialysis since the first day I was back on dialysis in 2004. Normal healthy people usually have 2 catergory's 1) "Good for you foods" and 2) "Not good for you foods". For people on dialysis, the catergories vary.. from.. 1) "Foods high in sodium" 2) "Foods high in phosphorus" 3) "Foods high in potassium" and for diabetics "Foods high in sugar" Foods high in carbs", and so on... finally you get your 2 catergories "Foods I can eat on dialysis" and "Foods I better not eat or better eat sparingly" from there we can then break it down to "These foods are going to make me gain weight" and "These foods should be healthy for me".

So that can be frustrating in itself.  I think the main thing to start losing weight while on dialysis, is start walking... just simple walking. 10 minutes at a time if thats all you can do, and eventually add more or more times a day. After you get that down, and you start seeing some changes like feeling more energy and such, then worry about the eating part of it.

Thats what helped me when I got severally frustrated with trying to lose weight and was getting nowhere. Hope it helps some.  :thumbup;
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: joanna2007 on March 07, 2007, 10:15:38 AM
I've just spent the last hour reading all 8 pages of this thread.   whew.   As a newbie I just wanted to give a couple of thoughts.

Regarding all the discussion of the BMI....I want to encourage those of you that have a long way to go (like me).  When I first went for my pre transplant testing I was at 44 BMI, my doctor said I was lucky I had a 'fat ass' so he thought if I could just get down to 38 BMI I would be okay for the transplant. (I carry most of my weight in my hips and legs..lucky me)  To get to that point I need to lose about 30 lbs.  I've lost 12, but it's slow going.  I realize I'd be doing myself a huge favor if I could get down to 30 BMI ( a total of 70 lbs to get there)

Anyway, would love to hear how everyone is doing today.   Have a great day and keep eating healthy.

Joanna




EDITED: Removed Bold Prompt - Sluff, Administrator
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: Sluff on March 07, 2007, 10:21:41 AM
I've just spent the last hour reading all 8 pages of this thread.   whew.   As a newbie I just wanted to give a couple of thoughts.

Regarding all the discussion of the BMI....I want to encourage those of you that have a long way to go (like me).  When I first went for my pre transplant testing I was at 44 BMI, my doctor said I was lucky I had a 'fat ass' so he thought if I could just get down to 38 BMI I would be okay for the transplant. (I carry most of my weight in my hips and legs..lucky me)  To get to that point I need to lose about 30 lbs.  I've lost 12, but it's slow going.  I realize I'd be doing myself a huge favor if I could get down to 30 BMI ( a total of 70 lbs to get there)

Anyway, would love to hear how everyone is doing today.   Have a great day and keep eating healthy.

Joanna


Keep on keeping on Joanna, you can do it, congratulations on your success so far.  :thumbup;
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: jbeany on March 07, 2007, 10:54:50 AM
I got the same response from the transplant surgeon that you did, Joanna - I "carry my weight well".  How nice of him not to just point out my butt is too big!  The surgeon did reccommend that I keep trying to lose weight, and said that another 10 or 15 pounds would be optimal (that puts me close to the 30 BMI).  I haven't had much luck with the diet part.  It's hard for me to cut much else without feeling like I'm totally depriving myself, and I've been eating less than 2000 calories a day as it is.  So I'm just trying to do more exercise.  On my good days, I'm up to 35 or 40 minutes on my exercise machine.  It was a long time coming to get to that point, though!  Frustrating that with all the exercise and calorie cutting, and all I've done is drop 2/10ths of a kilogram in the last month.  Ah well, at least I'm not gaining anything. . .
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: angela515 on March 07, 2007, 09:50:36 PM
Sometimes I think to myself being severly over-weight might be easier (although I know it wouldn't), but I feel this way because I have about 20 lbs to lose, therefore I must do it on my own, and it's hard to do. If I was obese, I could opt for gastric by-pass or the stomache band surgery... seems alot easier. Ya know? I know technically and emotionally it wouldnt be easier, but its just how I feel sometimes when im trying to lose weight, b/c it seems that 20 lbs is stuck like glue to me.

Had to vent that out there.
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: goofynina on March 16, 2007, 09:00:39 PM
Sometimes I think to myself being severly over-weight might be easier (although I know it wouldn't), but I feel this way because I have about 20 lbs to lose, therefore I must do it on my own, and it's hard to do. If I was obese, I could opt for gastric by-pass or the stomache band surgery... seems alot easier. Ya know? I know technically and emotionally it wouldnt be easier, but its just how I feel sometimes when im trying to lose weight, b/c it seems that 20 lbs is stuck like glue to me.

Had to vent that out there.

Being someone who is "severly overweight"  i am not even going to go there on this one  :-[
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: angela515 on March 16, 2007, 09:52:46 PM
I know it wouldn't be easier Susie, I'm just saying how I "feel", on how hard it is to get any help when u only have 20 lbs to lose, there isn't no Dr's who will help ya.. they will just say walk it off... u know? I wasn't being literal :P
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: goofynina on March 16, 2007, 10:15:46 PM
I know Angela, no worries,  i guess i was just posting what was on MY mind since i can only WISH i only had 20 lbs. to lose :P  ;)
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: Sluff on March 16, 2007, 11:29:06 PM
Total loss for me is 93lbs.   :)
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: kimcanada on March 17, 2007, 05:39:27 AM
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Total loss for me is 93lbs.

Excellent Sluff, how did you do that?

Kim
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: Sluff on March 17, 2007, 05:48:58 AM
the medication I'm on I just don't get hungry like I used to. The last two or three months I've only lost 1 or 2 lbs at a time but still losing which I'm glad.
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: goofynina on March 17, 2007, 04:31:11 PM
Total loss for me is 93lbs.   :)

Guess what Sluff, i FOUND THEM, thank you very much  :-\  :P  ;)
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: Sluff on March 17, 2007, 04:35:11 PM
Total loss for me is 93lbs.   :)

Guess what Sluff, i FOUND THEM, thank you very much  :-\  :P  ;)

LOL.  My motivation is fuel economy for my California trip.
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: kitkatz on March 17, 2007, 08:08:03 PM
Fuel economy, you are going to need it with gas prices over three bucks a gallon out here!
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: ILOVEFLUID on March 20, 2007, 10:39:06 PM
I have been trying to lose weight on dialysis for the last year and have only lost about 15 lbs (I would like to lose another 80).  My biggest problem is my nephrologist!!!!  I drink a lot of fluid because I love fluid.  I would rather drink than eat and have always been this way.  I have a much bigger problem controlling my fluid intake than i do my food intake.  I am usually TOO Nauseous to enjoy eating anyhow.  Everytime my fluid intake is way too much, my doctor assumes I have gained weight and he raises my dry Weight.    And then i lose more weight and I fill up with more fluid and he raises it again.  My legs are so swollen that i find it hard to exercise and then i start to gain weight due to lack of activity.  It is a vicious circle and i am so sick of it. Last week I had to go to emerg because i had problems breathing and it turns out i had fluid in my lungs.  The doctor says the fluid is because I am not moving around enough.  :banghead;  I feel like I will never win this war with him.  He says i can argue all i want but he writes the orders.  Nice for him, he doesn't have to drag these water buffalo legs around.  Luckily, i will be starting home hemo soon and will more control over my own care.  And yes, maybe one day i will get the fluid intake under control.  I hope
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: Hephs-little-lady on March 21, 2007, 01:56:27 AM
Hey guys, can dialysis wives join this one too. I know I probably don't have the same struggles as you guys, but I do have another 80lbs to lose before I can get any kind of infertility help. I've lost almost 40, but it is a struggle. I also kind of stick to a renal diet as I generally only eat what Heph can eat, (only coz i'm too lazy to make two different meals!  ;))  :2thumbsup;
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: Sluff on March 21, 2007, 04:34:27 AM
Hey guys, can dialysis wives join this one too. I know I probably don't have the same struggles as you guys, but I do have another 80lbs to lose before I can get any kind of infertility help. I've lost almost 40, but it is a struggle. I also kind of stick to a renal diet as I generally only eat what Heph can eat, (only coz i'm too lazy to make two different meals!  ;))  :2thumbsup;


Well of course HLL. You are welcome here just as much as anybody.

Sluff, Admin
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: angela515 on March 21, 2007, 08:30:20 AM
I have been trying to lose weight on dialysis for the last year and have only lost about 15 lbs (I would like to lose another 80).  My biggest problem is my nephrologist!!!!  I drink a lot of fluid because I love fluid.  I would rather drink than eat and have always been this way.  I have a much bigger problem controlling my fluid intake than i do my food intake.  I am usually TOO Nauseous to enjoy eating anyhow.  Everytime my fluid intake is way too much, my doctor assumes I have gained weight and he raises my dry Weight.    And then i lose more weight and I fill up with more fluid and he raises it again.  My legs are so swollen that i find it hard to exercise and then i start to gain weight due to lack of activity.  It is a vicious circle and i am so sick of it. Last week I had to go to emerg because i had problems breathing and it turns out i had fluid in my lungs.  The doctor says the fluid is because I am not moving around enough.  :banghead;  I feel like I will never win this war with him.  He says i can argue all i want but he writes the orders.  Nice for him, he doesn't have to drag these water buffalo legs around.  Luckily, i will be starting home hemo soon and will more control over my own care.  And yes, maybe one day i will get the fluid intake under control.  I hope

Either you need to get a new neph, or start watching your fluid intake. Having to go to the E.R. and finding fluid in your lungs, isn't a good siggn your headed the right way. I hope things change for you soon. Good luck hun!
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: Sluff on March 21, 2007, 09:30:57 AM
Start out with small goals. If you have 20lbs to lose do it 5 lbs at a time. if you need to lose more make small goals don't look at the whole picture, that can make it seem insurmountable. Enjoy any loss what so ever as a success.
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: ILOVEFLUID on March 21, 2007, 09:39:12 AM
I would love a new nephrologist but i don't think it is an option.  I have 3 and only like one but he is only on every 5 weeks.  So I get listened two every 5 weeks.  Very frustrating.  I have started watching my fluid intake more but it is hard.  My mouth feels like the desert all the time.  I have ordered some of that OASIS mouthwash (it moisturizes your mouth)  All I can seem to do is diet and lose weight and wait for every 5 weeks to have that doctor lower my dry weight.  This means I am very uncomfortable 4 out of every 5 weeks.  But I guess it will be worth it in the long run.

ILOVEFLUID
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: angela515 on March 21, 2007, 10:02:18 AM
Sluff- Very good advice!

ILOVEFLUID- I totally understand how hard it is to watch your fluid intake. What used to help is sucking on hard candies. Keep on losing the weight, and i'm not sure I understand why you can't take off more than your dry weight if you believe it has dropped... you need to let the head nurse know of the situation, they can always call the dr if he is the only one who can lower your dry weight.
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: Russ on March 25, 2007, 02:31:35 PM
The nurses at my clinic will offer to "challenge" my dry weight occasionally,  They will also pull a little below my dry weight if I request it, like a half kilo for example.

 :twocents;
Russ
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: Sluff on April 11, 2007, 01:12:18 PM
Since being back on my meds I have gained 5 lbs. Seems I can't get enough to eat.
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: goofynina on April 11, 2007, 03:57:44 PM
Since being back on my meds I have gained 5 lbs. Seems I can't get enough to eat.

Sluff?? Darling?? are you sure its the meds?? i have read what you been eating in the "what's for supper" thread, what are you eating for breakfast and lunch hmmmmm??  Come on, fess up!!  :P
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: Sluff on April 12, 2007, 06:55:24 AM
Since being back on my meds I have gained 5 lbs. Seems I can't get enough to eat.

Sluff?? Darling?? are you sure its the meds?? i have read what you been eating in the "what's for supper" thread, what are you eating for breakfast and lunch hmmmmm??  Come on, fess up!!  :P


I know I know but I'm so hungry all the time. Maybe I should quit the meds again.
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: goofynina on April 12, 2007, 01:43:42 PM
Dont you dare quit those meds Darrell!!!  >:(  You know,  one of the tips i always remember is when you go out to eat, ask for a box before you start eating, put 1/2 in the box and take that home for the next day, that way you only take in 1/2 the calories.  Just trying to help you out my friend,  you know i worry about'cha  ;)
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: angela515 on April 12, 2007, 07:31:55 PM
Just a quick reminder (as if you didn't know) if your eating more calories than you burn off, your going to gain weight..it's just a fact. I'm pretty sure we all know that, but just a reminder so you can look at your diet and see if you can make a few changes, its better than quitting your meds like Susie said.. dont do that! :)

 :grouphug;
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: Sluff on April 12, 2007, 08:29:53 PM
Dont you dare quit those meds Darrell!!!  >:(  You know,  one of the tips i always remember is when you go out to eat, ask for a box before you start eating, put 1/2 in the box and take that home for the next day, that way you only take in 1/2 the calories.  Just trying to help you out my friend,  you know i worry about'cha  ;)


That is good advice.


Just a quick reminder (as if you didn't know) if your eating more calories than you burn off, your going to gain weight..it's just a fact. I'm pretty sure we all know that, but just a reminder so you can look at your diet and see if you can make a few changes, its better than quitting your meds like Susie said.. dont do that! :)

 :grouphug;


You are right.
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: kitkatz on April 12, 2007, 09:49:11 PM
Shoot me.
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: jbeany on April 13, 2007, 02:07:58 PM
Got my official UNOS listed letter today.  The well named transplant surgeon, Dr. Punch, included that I need to lose 20 pounds.  The amount I need to lose doubled since he told me what weight I should be at during the transplant appointment. *sigh*  I've already lost 2 since then, maybe a bit more, but 8 sounded better than 18!

Blah - I only have to lose one pound at a time, right?
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: Sluff on April 13, 2007, 05:55:28 PM
Got my official UNOS listed letter today.  The well named transplant surgeon, Dr. Punch, included that I need to lose 20 pounds.  The amount I need to lose doubled since he told me what weight I should be at during the transplant appointment. *sigh*  I've already lost 2 since then, maybe a bit more, but 8 sounded better than 18!

Blah - I only have to lose one pound at a time, right?



You can do it!
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: goofynina on April 13, 2007, 08:42:39 PM
Got my official UNOS listed letter today.  The well named transplant surgeon, Dr. Punch, included that I need to lose 20 pounds.  The amount I need to lose doubled since he told me what weight I should be at during the transplant appointment. *sigh*  I've already lost 2 since then, maybe a bit more, but 8 sounded better than 18!

Blah - I only have to lose one pound at a time, right?

Jbeany, you can do this girlfriend, just think where you would be if you havent been exercising already, yep, square 1,  you know we are all here for you girlfriend,  You Can Do This.... :cuddle;
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: Zach on April 13, 2007, 08:48:45 PM
Shoot me.

Why do you want us to shoot you?
 8)
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: kitkatz on April 14, 2007, 08:51:06 AM
I gained four pounds recently and just cant shake them off again.  I gain weight when I am stressed and Lord am I stressed.  I gotta watch things.  Hard to so.
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: goofynina on April 14, 2007, 12:39:13 PM
And i am sure the late night trips to the Circle K doesn't help huh?  ;)  lol, dont worry about that now girlfriend,  Just enjoy yourself, when you get home, well,  then that's another story ;)
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: Sluff on April 15, 2007, 09:59:57 AM
Shoot me.


We could make that happen.  >:D
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: angela515 on April 21, 2007, 02:18:22 PM
Geez... I'm very frustrated with myself. I know what i need to do to lose weight... I need to eat 1200 calories a day, plus whatever calories I burn off from exercise for a 500 calorie deficit, cause my body takes 1600 calories to maintain it's weight.. I also know what types of foods I should be eating in order to get those calories and be full, and not go over... Lots of Fiber, fruits, veggies... lean meats... however, I cant seem to motivate myself enough to stop my fav things, and then i go crazy and once I mess up and give into a fav snack or something, I then think to myself "oh well i already ate this and messed up today so whatever it dont matter what I eat now" and then I eat anything and everything.... Its frustrating...

HOW CAN I GET AND STAY MOTIVATED AND STOP MESSING UP????
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: kitkatz on April 21, 2007, 08:31:31 PM
I get the same way.  Just have to talk yourself through it all day, everyday.   My sister lost 90 pounds the last few years by giving up transfats altogether and exercising.  She will not eat anything with an ounce of transfat in it.   She also gave herself a splurge day every weekend on Sunday.
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: mallory on May 21, 2007, 11:24:21 AM
How's everyone doing on losing weight?  I haven't been able to sign on for a while and I've missed all of your updates.  My sister had gastric bypass surgery on the 11th, she's already lost 30 pounds.  Can you believe it?  I'm so happy for her, but it is hard.  I've been eating 500 calories a day, because my Dialysis Clinic said everyone absorbs about 500 calories a day from their PD solution, so they told me I'd have to cut down to about 500 calories a day to lose weight.  I have lost weight, but it is going so sloooooowly. 

I'm walking on my treadmill everyday, too.  But, I am still on 2.5 mg. of Prednisone every day, so that's probably impacting my weight.

At this rate, I'll probably be eligible for a transplant in about 10 years.
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: Hephs-little-lady on May 21, 2007, 12:42:13 PM
 :oops; I've put on three pounds in the last couple of weeks. What can I say ??? I just love my food!  :popcorn;

I would love to lose the weight and gastric bypass sounds effective, a little too extreme for me though I think!
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: mallory on May 21, 2007, 12:56:31 PM
Hephs-little-lady, If you had seen how sick my sister was after she had the surgery, you'd definitely think gastric bypass is too extreme!  A few of her friends had the surgery, and they were all encouraging her to do it.  Then our doctor said she should do it, and she just arranged it and went for it.  I wasn't sure how I felt about it, because she said she was doing it so she could give me a kidney.  Her surgeon is the leading transplant surgeon in our area, and he thought it was just great.  When her surgery was over and he came out to talk to me, he asked me when I am going to get my bypass surgery.  I told him I didn't think I could have it because my lungs are so bad, and he said that was nonsense, he's ready to do it.

I just don't know, she was so sick for a couple of days, and I'd have to switch to hemodialysis, it would be a big change.  I'm not sure I could do it.  But, she has lost 30 pounds in 11 days, that sure sounds good!
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: Hephs-little-lady on May 21, 2007, 01:32:56 PM
The speedy weight loss does really sound amazing. But surely it must be healthier if you can lose the weight without surgical intervention.

Over here in the UK, doctors are not so quick to recommend these surgeries and it is only the very last option and even then you have to have psychological testing to see if they think you are mentally able to cope with it! Good luck to your sister though, and what a brave lady to do it for your transplant!

Good luck to you too in your weight loss efforts. You can do anything you set your mind too!  :boxing;
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: BigSky on May 21, 2007, 03:57:57 PM
:oops; I've put on three pounds in the last couple of weeks. What can I say ??? I just love my food!  :popcorn;

I would love to lose the weight and gastric bypass sounds effective, a little too extreme for me though I think!

I would agree.  Gastric bypass is way too extreme.  Once done there is no going back.

A better option in terms of something like weight loss surgery IMO would be the gastric banding.  Results seem to be pretty much the same without having to go to such an extreme that it cannot be undone like gastric bypass.
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: goofynina on May 22, 2007, 03:53:25 PM
The speedy weight loss does really sound amazing. But surely it must be healthier if you can lose the weight without surgical intervention.

Over here in the UK, doctors are not so quick to recommend these surgeries and it is only the very last option and even then you have to have psychological testing to see if they think you are mentally able to cope with it! Good luck to your sister though, and what a brave lady to do it for your transplant!

Good luck to you too in your weight loss efforts. You can do anything you set your mind too!  :boxing;

I have had 2 friends do this already and they are slowly regaining their weight back, neither of them were tested psychologically, maybe they should have huh?   :-\
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: kitkatz on May 22, 2007, 05:23:28 PM
My weight is not psychological. It isn't....Yes it is...No it isn't...If you have an argument with yourself and cannot win are you nuts?
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: MyssAnne on May 23, 2007, 09:50:36 AM
Only if one of you says yes....if the other says no, then you're not, Kit!!!!  I'm slowing losing it, about 2 pounds per month, it seems like! Sheesh.
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: Hephs-little-lady on May 24, 2007, 06:02:14 AM
The speedy weight loss does really sound amazing. But surely it must be healthier if you can lose the weight without surgical intervention.

Over here in the UK, doctors are not so quick to recommend these surgeries and it is only the very last option and even then you have to have psychological testing to see if they think you are mentally able to cope with it! Good luck to your sister though, and what a brave lady to do it for your transplant!

Good luck to you too in your weight loss efforts. You can do anything you set your mind too!  :boxing;

I have had 2 friends do this already and they are slowly regaining their weight back, neither of them were tested psychologically, maybe they should have huh?   :-\

I guess it would be quite easy to put the weight back on if you still eat the wrong foods and don't excersise! The surgery is probably not a good solution if you are not taught how to eat right and if you don't have the will power to not eat all the "good" stuff!

It is scary though, that even after the surgery you can put the weight back on. Probably not many people know this!
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: angela515 on June 01, 2007, 09:50:12 PM
How's everyone doing on losing weight?  I haven't been able to sign on for a while and I've missed all of your updates.  My sister had gastric bypass surgery on the 11th, she's already lost 30 pounds.  Can you believe it?  I'm so happy for her, but it is hard.  I've been eating 500 calories a day, because my Dialysis Clinic said everyone absorbs about 500 calories a day from their PD solution, so they told me I'd have to cut down to about 500 calories a day to lose weight.  I have lost weight, but it is going so sloooooowly. 

I'm walking on my treadmill everyday, too.  But, I am still on 2.5 mg. of Prednisone every day, so that's probably impacting my weight.

At this rate, I'll probably be eligible for a transplant in about 10 years.

Who told you that you would absorb 500 calories a day from the solution? Seems all the doctors disagree in this area. from my understanding if your absorbing any of the solution, your getting the calories, but if your draining it off, your not, or not getting many. Idunno if there has been any scientific testing done for facts, or if it's all opinions... hmm. Either way, 500 calories a day seems way extreme and not healthy. Everyone's body is different and depending on what our current weight is, you need a certain amount of calories a day just to maintain life.. because you use a certain amount of calories a day just for breathing.. and so on. Just concerned about ya only eating 500 a day.. don't want anything to happen to you hun.  :grouphug;
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: Zach on June 01, 2007, 10:04:41 PM
A better option in terms of something like weight loss surgery IMO would be the gastric banding.  Results seem to be pretty much the same without having to go to such an extreme that it cannot be undone like gastric bypass.

Absolutely right, BigSky.
 8)
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: kitkatz on June 09, 2007, 02:35:34 PM
Has anyone else changed dialysis machines in center, and put weight on afterwards? I have not changed my diet any, but have put on six pounds in the last several months since they chagned to these new machines. Is there a major difference in the machines? Is there something I can change in order to help my self on the new machine?  I hate this weight gain. I think it is fluid, but then I am not acting fluid overloaded. Maybe I should stop eating..
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: icecream on June 22, 2007, 07:54:16 PM
 :welcomesign;    HELLO.I will tell you all to be strong and don't berate yourselves.If you fall,pick yourself up and try again.It doesn't happen over night.I lost alot of weigh on weight wachers before i got sick.
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: maisha_r on July 07, 2007, 08:29:53 PM
I have gained 25 pounds in a period of 5 months, 15 of those since i am in pd.  I am concerned because i am not eating good, meaning lack of food,  I can be 1-2 days without food just water with my pills,  so i was asking the doctor why i am gaining weight?  is not my thyroid either,  I was told that i needed to exercise,  hmm but still without food and gaining that much and apparently not fluid build up.  Thing is I must loss it.  I have 3 months,  my friend has not seen me in long time and will come to visit me in 3 months from now,  I got to look the best possible when he gets here, I think he likes me  :yahoo; I was thinking to try Alli this pill as xenical but in lower strenght. exercising yes but what type?  and will start walking as soon my anemia gets under control, i am so tired all the time,  please share about type of exercise we are allowed to do.  I was told nothing to strengh abdomen,  but a friend told me yes i could..  ???
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: angela515 on July 08, 2007, 10:37:13 AM
I have gained 25 pounds in a period of 5 months, 15 of those since i am in pd. 

Are you draining everything plus more than you fill? How long do you dwell for? Sounds like your absorbing a il of your solution and therefore absorbing the calories from it.

As for exercise on PD, you should ask your doctor because we don't know all your medical problems... but normally you can do any exercise you want as long as your comfortable doing it.
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: BigSky on July 08, 2007, 03:52:15 PM
On pd people will get calories from the glucose that is in the solution.

Here is  a chart showing how many calories can be absorbed via exchange rate and glucose percentage.



Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: Chicken Little on July 08, 2007, 04:22:48 PM
70% absorption!  Holy smokes.   Is that what high transporters pull off? 

That's what I've had trouble finding.  What percentage of glucose is pulled off by low-regular-high transporters. 
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: BigSky on July 08, 2007, 05:38:24 PM
70% absorption!  Holy smokes.   Is that what high transporters pull off? 

That's what I've had trouble finding.  What percentage of glucose is pulled off by low-regular-high transporters. 


Seems to me it would be at the high end.

I have seen number of calories, grams of glucose absorbed vary.

You might check this out.  The interesting part starts on page 4 about glucose absorption.

http://www.pdserve.com/pdserve/pdserve.nsf/AttachmentsByTitle/PDF_PDServe:Vol+8,+No+1/$FILE/PDServe+composite+final+pdf.pdf



This second link should take you to their page of back newsletters.

http://www.pdserve.com/pdserve/pdserve.nsf/Content/PDServe+Connection

Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: maisha_r on July 10, 2007, 04:23:43 PM
Yes Angela, I have been draining ok with alarms and all, but solution pulls out extra fluid,  i just got that absortion issues few times,  that i even was instructed to go dry during day time.  I bet is the calories from the dialysate,  I have seen the chart one of the members shared with us and it did shocked me.  Is why that even if i was not eating, and sometimes just a slice of bread per day,  or nothing at all,  my weight got out of control.  I will start walking.  I did finally got an iv iron infussion yesterday as my anemia was causing me to be unable to move even one finger so i want to fight those calories from my night dialysis by walking in the morning  :boxing;
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: angela515 on July 10, 2007, 10:55:38 PM
If you have some money to spare, I would suggest buying a heart rate monitor. There very helpful in calculating how many calories you burn by exercising (walking and so forth) and then you would know if your expending more than your taking in through food and dialysate. Good luck. :)
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: angela515 on July 19, 2007, 11:02:10 AM
I have decided today that I am going to start eating healthy again. So what I can't do the treadmill right now, I can still watch what I put in my mouth... I stepped on the scale this morning and it said 142.6... VERY overweight for my height. Today I vow, no more candy, no more chips, no more junk food... I can do it... Right? I hope so.
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: goofynina on July 19, 2007, 01:01:50 PM
You Go Girl,  you can do this,  everytime you want to eat something bad come here and post something, anything (note to Sluff:  increase bandwidth) ;) ;)   lol, j/k,   But you know you have us all here behind you and besides you girl, you can do this,  eye of the tiger, EYE OF THE TIGER  ;musicalnote; theme from Rocky playing ;musicalnote;  :boxing; :boxing;
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: Sluff on July 19, 2007, 01:37:19 PM
{{{{{{ we may stretch the bandwidth for Angela}}}}}}} Ok Bandwith increased effective immeadiately.   :lol;

If you want a ride on my bike next week when I see ya, then you better be down to 140# No one over 140# next week rides on my bike.  :lol;
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: kitkatz on July 19, 2007, 02:10:41 PM
Anyone here tried nutrisystem or Jenny Craig for a diet?   I am so frustrated I am tempted to try one of these diets.
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: MyssAnne on July 19, 2007, 02:18:41 PM
I have thought of it, KitKatz.  I don't know how well they would synchronize with our diet though. I am trying, right now, to limit my carbs. Man, that's hard!!!
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: jbeany on July 19, 2007, 02:20:02 PM
I'd be worried that they would end up sending a bunch of stuff that was too high in potassium or phos, and it would just go to waste because you couldn't eat it, kit.
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: Chicken Little on July 19, 2007, 05:42:53 PM
Anyone here tried nutrisystem or Jenny Craig for a diet?   I am so frustrated I am tempted to try one of these diets.

I wouldn't think either of them would work for Dialysis patients.  That said, I've had friends that have done both and I've tasted them.  Nutrisystem food is horrifying.  It's all canned or room temperature vacuum packed.  They send it to you a month at a time in a big cardboard box.  I can't imagine what kind of preservatives you need to put in pizza, hot dogs & hamburgers to not have to refrigerate them. The food is just gross though.  Even the treats & muffins were so dry, they just sucked all the moisture out of your mouth.    :P

Jenny's food is at least frozen and very similar to the diet meals in grocery stores.  You're really paying for the privilege of having to be accountable to someone at weigh ins with Jenny. 

Most of my friends who have successfully lost weight a kept it off did Weight Watchers.  Kaiser offers WW at a discount to their members up here.  Their online program was really popular at my former office. Again though, it's based in whole grains and fiber and doesn't really work for a Dialysis diet.   :-\

Won't your nutritionist do a food plan for you?
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: thegrammalady on September 03, 2007, 07:36:50 PM
i use a diet i used before my kidneys failed and adapt it to the foods i can eat. it works well for me and would work better it i got a bit more exercise. the basics of the diet are - -  breakfast: 1 protein, 1 starch and 1 fruit
                                                      lunch: 3 protein, 1 starch and 1 fruit
                                                      dinner: 6 protein, 1 starch

unlimited vegetables are to be eaten throughout the day and 1 additional fruit may be eaten if desired.
the original diet called for 8oz of milk or a carten of yogurt a day (i don't do dairy so i skip that now)

protine is one egg, or 1oz of reduced fat cheese, fish, chicken, beef or pork

starch is 2 slices reduced calorie bread, 2 rice cakes, 1/3 cup rice, cous cous, pasta, small potato.

you get the idea, i just eat the foods in each category that are acceptable on dialysis. i also juggle the protein throughout the day depending on how hungry i feel. i eat a lot of salad and use fat free or reduced fat dressing. i snack on celery or cucumber. on dialysis days i do hard boiled eggs, rice cakes and fruit for breakfast. other mornings i might have a cup of special k or rice checks. i use non dairy creamer instead of milk. as long as i stick to it it works quite well.
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: angela515 on September 03, 2007, 08:29:19 PM
Ever since my transplant I been eating everything in site just "because I can" I may not even be hungry but come across something I know I like and eat it b/c I know I can now.... this however, has done me bad the last 7 months because I am up 14lbs since my transplant, and up 4 inches on my chest area, 3 on my hips and 2 on my waist.... I need to seriously start eating right and I'm struggling with that. Arghhhhh  :rant;
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: jbeany on September 03, 2007, 08:48:59 PM
We all struggle with that, ang.  I'm still exercising enough to keep from gaining any weight, but I don't seem to be losing it.  I need to get back to salad for at least one meal a day again, and cutting back on the fattening foods that seem to creep back in to the diet when I'm too busy to cook from scratch.
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: MyssAnne on September 13, 2007, 04:08:15 PM
Yeah. I keep gaining weight. Of course, I'm on PD, which adds calories, but still. I do try to limit what I eat, but they keep telling me...MORE protein! Just HOW the heck????  I get so frustrated at times.
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: kitkatz on September 14, 2007, 10:03:00 PM
I hate gaining this weight back!  Heeeellllp!
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: jbeany on September 18, 2007, 10:13:57 PM
Right, more protein, but the phos is too high and my doc seems to think I'm on enough binders.  I've cut out milk already, chocolate is a once a month treat, and I'm trying really hard to limit cheese and peanut butter to as little as possible, in spite of my cravings.  With all the stress I've had the past week, all I want is comfort food - which usually involves cheese, chocolate, or peanut butter for me.  My phos is just going to stay at 5 - something for now, whether the doc and dietitian approve or not!   :banghead;  At least my potassium is low, and I can eat all the baked potatoes I want for now.
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: Zach on September 19, 2007, 07:56:44 AM
With all the stress I've had the past week, all I want is comfort food - which usually involves cheese, chocolate, or peanut butter for me.

Keep the chocolate and the peanut butter.

The cheese is most likely the culprit.  Just 2 oz. of a nice cheddar is about 290 mg of Phosphorus, basically an entire meal's worth of Phosphorus!  It would take probably four Renagels to handle that amount of PO4
 8)
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: donnia on September 19, 2007, 06:48:34 PM
Please bear with me, as I am new to the whole dialysis diet... how much meat can you eat for the protein, and which meat is best?
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: goofynina on September 19, 2007, 07:53:32 PM
Please bear with me, as I am new to the whole dialysis diet... how much meat can you eat for the protein, and which meat is best?

Chicken, Turkey (without the skin) or fish is what i believe to be the best meats for proteins and as for how much,  i think your dietician should tell you that, i think each patient is different depending on how low (or high) your albumin is already,

Zach? where are you? we need you buddy  :2thumbsup;
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: Zach on September 19, 2007, 08:07:28 PM
Here you'll find some additional discussion on protein:

http://ihatedialysis.com/forum/index.php?topic=4820.msg69176#msg69176

http://ihatedialysis.com/forum/index.php?topic=1248.msg15624#msg15624

http://ihatedialysis.com/forum/index.php?topic=1526.msg19453#msg19453

Enjoy and eat!
 8)
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: jbeany on September 20, 2007, 12:16:22 AM
With all the stress I've had the past week, all I want is comfort food - which usually involves cheese, chocolate, or peanut butter for me.

Keep the chocolate and the peanut butter.

The cheese is most likely the culprit.  Just 2 oz. of a nice cheddar is about 290 mg of Phosphorus, basically an entire meal's worth of Phosphorus!  It would take probably four Renagels to handle that amount of PO4
 8)

"I do love a bit of Wensleydale" Wallace of Wallace and Gromit.

"Cheeeeeeeeeeeeeze!"  Hutch from Revenge of the Were-Rabbit

Oh, just shoot me now - I'm too addicted to give it up!  I'm gonna have to stop buying it - then it won't be in the house when I want some. . .
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: kitkatz on November 24, 2007, 07:56:54 PM
Okay folks.  I have to lose some weight.,  Not for transplant, we know that ain't happening,but for me, to feel better and maybe manage the fluid build up better.  I am tired of looking in the mirror at me.  I feel ugly and fat beyond compare right now.  I am thinking weightwatchers might be good.  But this renal diet thing has me tied in knots.  Any ideas would be helpful.  How about if we put together a list of healthy renal friendly easy to prep meals?  I get lost in the sides so often in a meal.
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: Russ on November 25, 2007, 09:53:09 AM
I recently started a weight loss management program at a local hospital in preparation for gastric bypass surgery next summer.  One of the things I have to do is keep a log of everything I eat.  Just keeping the log really makes me more aware of everything I'm eating.  I just try to watch the carb input, about 35 to 55 mg per meal for me and everything else such as calories, fat, protein, etc.  seems to fall in line.  I don't worry so much about counting calories as I do about tracking carbs.  I use a web site, foodsdatabase.com  (http://foodsdatabase.com) to keep the log and it's free.  The web site also has nutrient information for each food you eat, such as sodium, phosphorous and potassium among other things.




EDITED: Fixed Link - Sluff/Admin
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: Sluff on November 25, 2007, 06:23:35 PM
Thanks for the link Russ and that is an outstanding idea.  :2thumbsup;
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: goofynina on November 25, 2007, 09:53:10 PM
I recently started a weight loss management program at a local hospital in preparation for gastric bypass surgery next summer.  One of the things I have to do is keep a log of everything I eat.  Just keeping the log really makes me more aware of everything I'm eating.  I just try to watch the carb input, about 35 to 55 mg per meal for me and everything else such as calories, fat, protein, etc.  seems to fall in line.  I don't worry so much about counting calories as I do about tracking carbs.  I use a web site, foodsdatabase.com  (http://foodsdatabase.com) to keep the log and it's free.  The web site also has nutrient information for each food you eat, such as sodium, phosphorous and potassium among other things.


Good luck Russ, i hope everything goes smoothly for you ;)  :2thumbsup;
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: okarol on November 25, 2007, 10:09:26 PM
Thanks Russ, for the http://foodsdatabase.com website. It's great. I entered all my food for today. Tomorrow I will do the same, also track my activity, water intake and if I am feeling adventurous I might even do the part where I take my measurements -  ??? - well, maybe. Anyway, it's easy to look up the food and I think it will help me a great deal.
 :thumbup;
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: kellyt on November 26, 2007, 08:02:56 AM
Okay folks.  I have to lose some weight.,  Not for transplant, we know that ain't happening,but for me, to feel better and maybe manage the fluid build up better.  I am tired of looking in the mirror at me.  I feel ugly and fat beyond compare right now.  I am thinking weightwatchers might be good.  But this renal diet thing has me tied in knots.  Any ideas would be helpful.  How about if we put together a list of healthy renal friendly easy to prep meals?  I get lost in the sides so often in a meal.

Kitkatz - Weight Watchers is good.  I did it in 2003 and I lost 27 lbs., putting me about 2 lbs away from my goal.  It seemed to just fall off.  However, I stopped and now have gained it all back and I'm having a hard time getting back on the wagon.  My neph was extremely pleased when I was doing WW, and he said he would be fine with me doing it again.  With WW no food is off limits - you make your menu and you incorporate what you want/can have.  If you want some more info go to www. weightwatchers.com and check out their message boards.  I recommend the boards like "100 lbs to lose" and such.  Those people know what they're doing!  The other boards have a lot of mean ladies.

Let me know if you want a buddy!  I have to lose about 20 lbs for transplant!  NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Kelly ~*
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: Ang on November 26, 2007, 08:02:59 PM
all  you  really  need  is  the  motivation  to lose  the  weight,  my  motivation  is  a  transplant  1  day.
i get  up  at  6.00am  3/4  days a  week,  put  the  ipod  on  and  walk  for  an  hour  to  an  hour  and  a  half.
usually  pretty  good  with  the  diet,  if  they  tell  me  not  to  eat,  95%  of  the  time  i  stay  away  from  it.
fluid  is  the  one  that'll  do  me  in,  anywhere  from  2/3  litres  each  run.
oh  yeah  for  dinner  tonight  i'll  be  having  grass, not  much  left  i'm  allowed  to  eat. :banghead; :bow; :yahoo; 
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: jbeany on December 02, 2007, 06:29:51 PM
I made my goal for the year this week.  Whooohoo!  Probably would have been better if I hadn't lost the last pound by being too sick, too busy, or too stressed to eat, but I take what good I can get.  Now if I can lose another 25 pounds by this time next year, I'll really feel like I've accomplished something!

Come on kit, you can do it!
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: goofynina on December 02, 2007, 06:39:31 PM
Quote
all  you  really  need  is  the  motivation  to lose  the  weight

I beg to differ on this comment,  motivation is not the only thing you need, you also need the strength also,  i have no (and i mean NO) strength in my legs at all, i cannot sit on certain chairs if they are too low cuz i cannot pull myself off of it,  walking from the car to front door of a store is a challenge for me,  i get a pain in my back that makes it feel like my spine is ready to split into 2, (not to mention the pain i get in my hips)  being on PD has literally deformed my body (more than it was before) :P   even so, i wouldnt trade doing pd for hemo unless i absolutely had to ;)   See, i have the motivation, i have the Tae-Bo tapes, i have Richard Simmons sweating to the Oldies, they get me motivated, just when i try to do them, i find it useless  :banghead;
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: glitter on December 02, 2007, 08:11:53 PM
Quote
all  you  really  need  is  the  motivation  to lose  the  weight

I beg to differ on this comment,  motivation is not the only thing you need, you also need the strength also,  i have no (and i mean NO) strength in my legs at all, i cannot sit on certain chairs if they are too low cuz i cannot pull myself off of it,  walking from the car to front door of a store is a challenge for me,  i get a pain in my back that makes it feel like my spine is ready to split into 2, (not to mention the pain i get in my hips)  being on PD has literally deformed my body (more than it was before) :P   even so, i wouldnt trade doing pd for hemo unless i absolutely had to ;)   See, i have the motivation, i have the Tae-Bo tapes, i have Richard Simmons sweating to the Oldies, they get me motivated, just when i try to do them, i find it useless  :banghead;

I feel exactly the same way- everyone keeps telling me I need to move more- but I hurt everywhere, my knees grind and my back hurts so bad to stand for more then a couple of minutes. I am trying to lose weight without doing a whole bunch of exercise-( because I can't do it) and it IS possible- I have lost 28 pounds this year-but its hard... if I lose a bunch more I will be able to do more exercise- its almost like no-one believes you have pain- they just think your lazy!!!
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: angela515 on December 02, 2007, 08:28:04 PM
Quote
all  you  really  need  is  the  motivation  to lose  the  weight

I beg to differ on this comment,  motivation is not the only thing you need, you also need the strength also,  i have no (and i mean NO) strength in my legs at all, i cannot sit on certain chairs if they are too low cuz i cannot pull myself off of it,  walking from the car to front door of a store is a challenge for me,  i get a pain in my back that makes it feel like my spine is ready to split into 2, (not to mention the pain i get in my hips)  being on PD has literally deformed my body (more than it was before) :P   even so, i wouldnt trade doing pd for hemo unless i absolutely had to ;)   See, i have the motivation, i have the Tae-Bo tapes, i have Richard Simmons sweating to the Oldies, they get me motivated, just when i try to do them, i find it useless  :banghead;

I feel exactly the same way- everyone keeps telling me I need to move more- but I hurt everywhere, my knees grind and my back hurts so bad to stand for more then a couple of minutes. I am trying to lose weight without doing a whole bunch of exercise-( because I can't do it) and it IS possible- I have lost 28 pounds this year-but its hard... if I lose a bunch more I will be able to do more exercise- its almost like no-one believes you have pain- they just think your lazy!!!

Amen sisters!!!  :bow;  I can't exercise right now because of my ankle pain, and some other joint pain from my RA...so i'm right there with ya girls.  :grouphug;
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: Romona on December 02, 2007, 09:47:42 PM
I think we all need to remember that damage is done to nerves and muscles with kidney disease. What one person may be able to do another one can't. Even after transplant many of us have damage hasn't been reversed. All we can do is the best we can and encourage each other. I don't have the pain like some of you have, but I find it difficult to move sometimes.  :grouphug;
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: kellyt on December 03, 2007, 03:11:50 PM
The weight I lost with Weight Watchers (27 lbs) was totally without exercise!  On average I lost .5 to 1 lb. per week and that was okay with me.  I might have lost 1-2 lbs. a week with exercise (maybe more), but I wanted to learn to eat in moderation.  I still had Whataburger once a week, but I had the Whataburger Jr. with the smaller fries and a diet Dr. Pepper.  It is unfortunate that I've gained back all my weight.  I felt great and looked so much better/happier!
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: Jill D. on December 03, 2007, 07:24:16 PM
I started Weight Watchers in late August; I did really well until the <Vegas Trip>; once we got home, I had food around for our Halloween Party and in November I was so busy with work that I didn't keep track daily like I should, but I made a HUGE pot of vegetable soup that I could freeze and that kept me from eating unhealthy because I was too busy and too tired.
I joined WW on-line, and it's awesome. It is hard for me to lose weight, but after 2 months I took off 12 pounds. I've been holding steady since late October, and I plan on getting back on track within the week.
For me, losing weight successfully is such a mental thing. I have to really psych myself up, set a date, study the menu, make sure I have all of the right foods, etc.
Good luck at whatever works for you Kit!!!!
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: kellyt on December 03, 2007, 08:41:50 PM
That's great!  Are you doing Core or Flex?  I found the Flex Plan pretty easy.  Funny, I just made a big pot of the 0 pt veggie soup the other day.  My husband loves it.  After I made it I didn't want any.  It's still in the fridge.  :)   I need to buckle down and start losing!  I've done pretty good the last few days with eating "less", but not necessarily eating "better".  That is where I have problems.  I'm not a "big" eater.  I'm a "bad" eater.  That's so hard to change!!!
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: angela515 on December 04, 2007, 06:11:19 AM
I wanted to do that... but I don't have the money too... i'm going to have to use will power  :lol;
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: ODAT on December 04, 2007, 01:07:19 PM
My weight is not psychological. It isn't....Yes it is...No it isn't...If you have an argument with yourself and cannot win are you nuts?

That is too funny! I must be a total nutcase because I never win. Sometimes I think my weight has an underlying psychological issue. Of course, I blamed my extra weight on my kids, but if I look back at pictures when the boys were small, I was not as heavy as I am now. My weight gain, 40 lbs, was put on while I was taking Zoloft for about 9 months or so. I cannot lose it. I do not exercise and keep saying that I should just put music on and dance, after all that's how I kept thin years ago. I try to stay away from the trap of skipping meals because if you consume too few calories, your metabolism slows down. Now why can't it speed up if you eat too many?!?!?

My niece lives on a military base with her husband and children. They were stationed in Germany when she had gasteric bypass done (they live in Ft Walton Fl now). She was sick for a while and it was actually because she was supposed to stick to a liquid diet and ate food way before she was supposed to. They did make her talk to a psychiatrist first. She has lost 90 lbs in about 3 years and is still losing.

I've tried many things to lose weight, the typical OTC weight loss pills which always made me anxious, weight watchers - didn't lose anything hate to write down stuff, slimfast worked for a while, and the best/worst was Phen-Fen. Best because I felt great and lost 50 lbs! Worst because it possibly caused heart damage. I had two echo-cardiograms done and I was fine thank God. Got in on the civil lawsuit and was reimbursed the cost of perscriptions.

There is a girl here at work who I never thought would lose weight only because she was so happy and comfortable with herself. She started having health issues - one being sleep apnea, and decided to lose weight. She's lost about 45 lbs so far and the two things she did was to not eat after 8pm and cut way back on carbs and sugary desserts. I don't eat a lot of sweets but I do eat after 8pm - sometimes a small bowl of cereal around 9 or 9:30.

I would really like to find a cure for 'mouth hunger.' My belly is not hungry but my mouth wants to taste. Growing up it was a struggle sometimes to have enough to eat for six kids and parents. It took me a while to come to grips with being able to buy what I wanted, when I wanted. I had to say ' tomorrow is another day and I can eat this then.'

I have a ton of exercise stuff in the basement, a small tv and lots of exercise videos. I've invested in Body Flex (breathing), Pilates (got this one when I had foot surgery and couldn't jump around), Paula Abduhl's Dance Workout (man, they make it look so easy), and one that I loved doing was Susan Powter's Step (boy she had a scandal - can't remember it all, but people were saying she was phony - I lost weight doing that my husband even made me a stepper - steel with a grip top).

One thing I do know - and I believe it has been proven - is that when I don't get enough sleep, my will-power is gone. I think it's more medically-termed than that but that's how I feel.

What I find is a total joke is Wendy's fast food restaurant. They did away with Biggie Size due to all the press about portion size. Well, ask for a small drink and it is NOT small, it is like a medium or large. weird. I do like that you can replace the fries in a meal with a few other choices.
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: Jill D. on December 04, 2007, 06:37:48 PM
That's great!  Are you doing Core or Flex?  I found the Flex Plan pretty easy.  Funny, I just made a big pot of the 0 pt veggie soup the other day.  My husband loves it.  After I made it I didn't want any.  It's still in the fridge.  :)   I need to buckle down and start losing!  I've done pretty good the last few days with eating "less", but not necessarily eating "better".  That is where I have problems.  I'm not a "big" eater.  I'm a "bad" eater.  That's so hard to change!!!

I'm doing the flex plan, and I agree that it is easy to follow. The important thing is to keep track of what you eat...which is why I love using the on-line program. The fact that you can put in your own recipes to find out the points is awesome...you really can eat anything (but you can eat MORE if the food is healthy!)
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: jbeany on May 05, 2008, 12:55:31 PM
 :banghead; :banghead; :banghead;

I am soooooooo frustrated right now.  I've increased my exercise.  (Me - jogging - OMG!)  I've been watching portions, eating more fruit and veggies, not buying junk food to keep in the house, paying attention so I stop eating when I'm full. . .   So if I'm doing all that right, why aren't I losing any weight?  The scale seems to be set in cement.  I was doing so well for while there - a pound or two every month, slow and steady.  The last two months I seem to have stalled.  I've dropped maybe two-tenths of a kilogram.  Wheeha.   Arrrgh!  I can't think of anything else to do right now, but I don't want to get so frustrated that I quit trying.  Gaining it back is not an option here!  :banghead;
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: twirl on May 05, 2008, 01:17:03 PM
what used to work for me was drinking 10 glasses of water a day
use to complain about so much water
little did I know

have you lost a lot of weight and now it is harder
I find it harder being on dialysis

sounds like you are doing everything right, wish I had your motivation
I went on Fit For Life for a couple of months pre "D"
I lost weight, then people kept telling me it did not work , so I quit
I think I lost 20
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: kellyt on May 05, 2008, 03:31:56 PM
I posted about two weeks ago that I purchased a treadmil and I've been walking everyday.  Well, I took three days off (last Sat, Sun and Wed).  But since the day they delivered it to my house (April 19th) I've walked a total of 24.08 miles.  Believe me, that's 24 miles more than I used to walk!!!  :)

I'm really enjoying it.  I put a bunch of up-beat songs on my MP3 player and I just go to town.  I saw a drop in weight the first week (-2.5 lbs), but nothing since.  I'm trying to increase my speed and raise my incline a little each day/week.  Right now I'm happy with 1.5 - 3 miles a day.  I'll increase the distance later.
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: flip on May 05, 2008, 07:17:04 PM
The distance isn't as important as the speed. You need to get your cardio up while you are walking. I try to do at least 4 mph.
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: kellyt on May 05, 2008, 07:29:40 PM
It's funny, because at the gym I usually walk at 3.4 mph and that's pretty fast.  But on this treadmill, 3.4 mils is a slow jog, which I'm not ready for.  So I go between 3 mph and 3.2 mph.  4 mph would be running on this treatmil, which again I'm ready for.  :)
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: jbeany on May 13, 2008, 02:04:45 PM
Woohoo - I'm getting a free treadmill this weekend!  My sister says she's sick of tripping over hers, so she's bringing it to me.  It's a nice one, with all the programmable bells and whistles available.  Maybe, having it in my house will keep me from slacking off when the weather is cold.

The distance isn't as important as the speed. You need to get your cardio up while you are walking. I try to do at least 4 mph.

I thought you were supposed to alternate - faster, then slower, then back again.
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: Zach on May 13, 2008, 09:08:10 PM

Woohoo - I'm getting a free treadmill this weekend!  My sister says she's sick of tripping over hers, so she's bringing it to me.  It's a nice one, with all the programmable bells and whistles available.  Maybe, having it in my house will keep me from slacking off when the weather is cold.


Fantastic!
 8)
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: thegrammalady on May 14, 2008, 08:56:01 AM
:yahoo;   :yahoo;   :yahoo;  20 pounds since january.   :bow; here's to at least 10-15 more!
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: Romona on May 14, 2008, 02:10:15 PM
 :bandance; Good for you!
Don't worry I think I found them! :rofl;
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: donnia on June 20, 2008, 01:06:01 PM
Can't believe I just found this thread!!!  Okay, I am just 2 weeks 1 day post transplant and I am still trying to get off all the extra fluids.  I am soooo determined to lose a good 60 lbs.  I have joined  the YMCA, but of course I can not go for quite a while.... so I ordered a Wii and Wii fit.  I can not wait until they come in!  I will be visiting this tread often!  I can use all the support I can get!
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: jbeany on June 20, 2008, 01:08:37 PM
Ooooh -that WII fit looks like fun!  I've tried the bowling and the tennis games on one.  You can really work up a sweat just playing a video game!
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: donnia on June 20, 2008, 01:18:06 PM
Yes, it does look fun!!!  I can't wait to try it out... although I'm gonna have to wait a few weeks before I can start working out on it   :-\  Oh well... I'll have fun watching my husband work up a sweat on it  :2thumbsup;
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: jbeany on July 30, 2008, 08:33:40 PM
All right - I've told 3 people this here at home, and they've all told me to shut up. So I'm coming here for a little support!
I lost 2 more pounds!!!  :bandance;

My plateau has finally turned back into a down hill slope. .. .hooray!
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: G-Ma on July 30, 2008, 08:35:40 PM
Yippeee for you.  :bandance;
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: Zach on July 30, 2008, 08:39:49 PM

I lost 2 more pounds!!!  :bandance;

My plateau is finally turned to back into a down hill slope. .. .hooray!

Fantastic JB!!
 :-*
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: okarol on July 30, 2008, 09:24:04 PM
All right - I've told 3 people this here at home, and they've all told me to shut up. So I'm coming here for a little support!
I lost 2 more pounds!!!  :bandance;

My plateau has finally turned back into a down hill slope. .. .hooray!

Thatta girl! Cool!
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: thegrammalady on July 30, 2008, 10:26:02 PM
All right - I've told 3 people this here at home, and they've all told me to shut up. So I'm coming here for a little support!
I lost 2 more pounds!!!  :bandance;

My plateau has finally turned back into a down hill slope. .. .hooray!

i bet they are all skinny!
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: twirl on July 31, 2008, 06:18:25 AM
jbeany
how much did you have to lose
how much have you lost
how are you doing it
and I will not tell you to shut up
I want to know
I am slowing losing weight
my weight as I leave dialysis gets lower and lower
slowly
very slowly but at least it is lower
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: angela515 on July 31, 2008, 07:47:11 AM
YAY JB... Your my inspiration girlie girl! Keep it up!  :grouphug;

twirl: slow is better than nothing or gaining. I am gaining, when I get home from vacation next week I am going to try to turn that around, but definately not going to start here on vacation, :)
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: jbeany on July 31, 2008, 11:54:27 AM

i bet they are all skinny!

No - they all want to lose weight, too, and aren't doing it!

jbeany
how much did you have to lose
how much have you lost
how are you doing it
and I will not tell you to shut up
I want to know
I am slowing losing weight
my weight as I leave dialysis gets lower and lower
slowly
very slowly but at least it is lower

twirl, I've lost 35 pounds so far.  It's taken me a year and a half to get this far.  That's about halfway to where I should be, to get close to a healthy BMI.  Slow works, so don't worry about doing it quickly!  The two things that have made the biggest impact - learning to listen to when I've had enough, and exercise.  I've revoked my membership in the "Clean Plate Club" and started really paying attention to when I'm actually full. I see the portion sizes I eat now, when I'm paying attention to my body, and I can't believe how much I used to eat. I do try to eat more healthy food than I used to, but I haven't cut out any of the good fattening stuff, just cut way down on how much of it I eat when I eat it. (Like last night, when I was craving an ice cream cone.  I got a small one, couldn't finish it, and walked 6 blocks while eating it, just to work off a few of the calories while I was indulging. . .)
 I also started doing a bit more exercise.  I went from none at all to some most of the time.  Mostly, I walk, either outside or on my treadmill.  If I'm feeling good, I walk for half an hour or more, with a few sections where I speed up into a slow jog.  If I'm not feeling that good, I try to do a slow 15 minute walk.
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: twirl on July 31, 2008, 12:51:38 PM
Angela 515   you are not overweight at all - you look great in your bowling pictures
                  sent you a PM but could not tell if it worked- mailed to Angela's Children and forgot a couple of items so will mail them next Monday 
                  after D

Jbeany    I am so proud of you--- I eat slower and eat less- it does make a difference
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: kitkatz on July 31, 2008, 10:16:57 PM
 :clap; :clap; :clap; :bandance; :bandance; :bandance;


I never get tired of hearing about success.
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: pelagia on August 01, 2008, 06:01:30 AM
Congratulations!  Great job!  :bandance;

I've been looking for inspiration and I think this thread will help me.  I lost over 30 lbs a few years ago and was finally for the first time in many years within my target weight zone.  With all the stresses of the last year, I have gained half of it back.  It's so easy to gain and so hard to lose... I am going on vacation next week and I plan to give myself a little slack, but when I come back, I am determined to reverse the gaining trend.  I am going to have to give up my martinis.  I need to do that anyway. There, I said it and that is half the battle.  :boxing;
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: pelagia on August 12, 2008, 11:03:06 AM
Okay, I am back from vacation and I started a diet plan yesterday.  It's somewhat between the South Beach and Mediterranean... I am planning to stay away from all processed foods, the real starchy carbs and most fruits (except berries) for two weeks.  I can't tolerate as much meat and cheese as SB calls for, so will probably eat a lot of chicken, fish and tofu.  It's a good time to be eating salads as our garden is brimming with veggies.  And as long as I can have olive oil and vinegar on the salad, I am happy.  After two weeks I might let myself have toast again in the am.  I am a toast fanatic and really love the Ezekial sprouted grain bread.

thanks again for the inspiration JB  :thx;
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: twirl on August 14, 2008, 08:46:39 AM
going public
I am getting a lap band
should have been Tues but due to my parathyroid operation my calciucm is too low
I have to get it up before surgery, but I have been approved
am losing weight on my own, slowly, it is harder without peeing
need to get the cal up a couple of points
I need to los 25 - 30 lbs to get on list
nep doc wants me to get the surgery
so does the transplant people
so
goodbye dear carbonated drinks forever
and ever
and it should be in a couple of weeks or three
cal has to be 7.5 to 8.4
the wed before the tues of the operation
am drinking two protein shakes a day with two normal sized meals
the shakes are homemade and I mix with fruit and are good
really good
so
they will never be as good as coke or pepsi
twirl
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: monrein on August 14, 2008, 11:31:19 AM
That's good Twirl.  I'd so love for you to get a transplant and if this is the big step that will lead you there, well excellent.  Besides those cola carbonated drinks are horrible for the body and the bones....your body will love ya.  As do we.  :2thumbsup;
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: pelagia on August 14, 2008, 12:15:54 PM
This sounds like a positive step forward all around.  Yes, coke and pepsi are very bad for you...
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: G-Ma on August 14, 2008, 01:02:48 PM
Great twirl, I wish lapband had been around instead of gastric bypass when I had it, I think I would have done much better...you will do great I'm sure.  :2thumbsup;
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: twirl on August 14, 2008, 01:41:06 PM
Oh G-Ma please tell me about your surgery and how did you do and how are you now and how long ago was it and how much did you lose and what amounts do you eat now and anything else I left out

please
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: donnia on August 18, 2008, 07:39:59 PM
Congratulations twirl!  I hope everything works out great!   :clap;  My friend had the gastric bypass about....7 or 8 years ago.  She lost weight quickly.  I felt bad for her though because she would literally eat A yes A as in one... cracker and be full.  I have heard the lap band is so much better.  I will say though.. make sure that when you start losing... start working out as well.  She has a horrible time with the loose skin. 

 :cuddle;    :cuddle;    :cuddle;   I am so very excited for you!!!!     :cuddle;    :cuddle;    :cuddle;
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: donnia on August 18, 2008, 07:41:51 PM
Oh yeah, I was cleared to start working out, so I opened up the Wii Fit :)  I worked out on it today for the first time :)  I did the hula hoop, aerobics and running.... 29 minutes.  My goal is to lose 3 lbs in 2 weeks.  I will keep yall updated :)   :yahoo;
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: donnia on August 19, 2008, 08:01:11 PM
I am having pain in my right knee and hip, so I only did 15 minutes on the Wii.  Good news is.... I have lost 2 lbs since yesterday, so I am almost at my goal of 3 lbs for 2 weeks!!!  Yay!
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: okarol on August 19, 2008, 11:44:50 PM
I am having pain in my right knee and hip, so I only did 15 minutes on the Wii.  Good news is.... I have lost 2 lbs since yesterday, so I am almost at my goal of 3 lbs for 2 weeks!!!  Yay!

Ohh take it easy girl! Don't hurt yourself!
I walked an hour 3 days a week (in the morning before it was too hot) and it made a huge difference.
Good luck donnia!
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: pelagia on August 24, 2008, 06:12:50 PM
2 weeks = 5 lbs lost for me.  But tonight I went over to a friend's house and had wine, cheese and crackers...
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: Kini on August 29, 2008, 05:25:00 AM
I posted this link on another post but I think for a diet this might be helpful also. It's a supplement for people on dialysis and contains high protien and low Phos. so maybe if you drink one or 2 of these a day in place of snack or even a light meal it would assist in loosing weight. There are also other products on this site. Hope this helps.

http://www.nutra-balance-products.com/nutrabalance_products_regen.php

I get for my daughter and her Neph. writes as a script so it's covered under her insurance, have it written and Medically Ness.
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: kitkatz on October 02, 2008, 08:10:43 PM
Well hubby and I joined a gym, Bally's Fitness Gym.  We went and exercised tonight.  We shall see how it all goes. It is s three year membership. Here is to me getting fit.
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: monrein on October 02, 2008, 08:28:05 PM
That's a really great decision Kitkatz.  Just take it slow, but keep at it and build up gradually.  Also the sweat is fluid removal.

Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: Zach on October 02, 2008, 09:01:33 PM

Well hubby and I joined a gym, Bally's Fitness Gym.  We went and exercised tonight.  We shall see how it all goes. It is s three year membership. Here is to me getting fit.


Congratulations!

8)
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: Sluff on October 02, 2008, 09:05:47 PM
Well hubby and I joined a gym, Bally's Fitness Gym.  We went and exercised tonight.  We shall see how it all goes. It is s three year membership. Here is to me getting fit.



Good for you and Victor! I really hope you keep it up and do well. I start things but never seem to follow through sometimes. I wish you both the best.  :bow;
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: okarol on October 02, 2008, 10:29:17 PM
Well hubby and I joined a gym, Bally's Fitness Gym.  We went and exercised tonight.  We shall see how it all goes. It is s three year membership. Here is to me getting fit.

It makes a big difference when you have a partner to do it with (working out too heheheh) - good plan!
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: jbeany on November 13, 2008, 07:54:16 PM
Okay, I'm back at it again.  The pound I gained from eating too much cheese when my calcium dropped is gone again.  Now if I can keep up the losing streak, I might make my next weight loss goal. 

I did find out that if you run on my treadmill fast enough and long enough while the dishwasher is running as well - the fuses blow.  Ooooops!
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: kitkatz on November 13, 2008, 07:56:25 PM
If you run the toaster and the microwave the fuses blow over here, so I can imagine what your treadmill did. Maybe you need to have a chat with your electronics.
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: MIbarra on November 13, 2008, 08:13:42 PM
I lost 6 pounds since my last visit in August with my neph. Last time he told me "you gained a bunch of weight. Stop. " Now he said "you lost weight. There I am being fair. Last time I said you gained. Today I say you lost."

Woohoo 6 pounds, but newsflash.. I'm still fat.
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: Lucinda on November 13, 2008, 08:28:29 PM
Since I have given up work and I go to the gym every day and walk more with my dogs I have lost another 20 kilos - now a total of 55 kilos.  I went out and got drunk last night - nope, I don't drinnk so that only took one glass of champagne. I want to drop another 15 kilos and then I will stop.  The first 10 were the hardest, then it just became about habit.  When I lose another 15 kilos I will show the before and after shots.  Just my luck, you won't even see the difference but the in the before shot I have long (white) blonde hair and I will be wearing a tent and in the after shot I will probably have what I have now - extrememly short (Jet) black hair.  Looks good with all that leather I bought to wear on Sluff's bike though!!! xxxx 
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: G-Ma on November 13, 2008, 09:36:03 PM
 :clap;  yahoo for you.
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: kitkatz on November 13, 2008, 09:47:28 PM
I have been working out with a trainer.   She and I use the pool to work out in. It seems to be easier on the joints.  It was a hour in the pool today. And fifteen minutes on the bike.  Not bad for an old woman!
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: Lucinda on November 14, 2008, 01:10:26 PM
Thanks G-ma.  Hey Kit.....an hour in the pool is a long time when you first start then 15 minutes on the bike...wow...you must have been in pretty good shape with your fitness before you even started.  That's terrific.  And you are absolutely right about the pool.  Best form of exercise.  Very kind to the joints.  You are doing really well. Congrats.
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: tamara on November 14, 2008, 03:30:37 PM
Yep the pool is the best, It's what got me to the weight required for transplant, GO FOR IT KIT ! splash that water about !!!!   :clap;
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: kitkatz on November 14, 2008, 04:25:53 PM
No kind of shape at all when I started a month and a half ago. 15 on the bike first then the pool.
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: Wattle on November 14, 2008, 05:39:38 PM
Ok you have all inspired me...

I need to loose the weight I have gained on PD (they don't call it the Mars bar diet for nothing!).  There's nothing like filling your body with glucose 24/7!

I will start with walking the dog more. But is the Wii that good? My kids have already got PS 2 and 3. Do I really need another console? Or is it all a lot of hype? Will I ever get them away from the TV if I buckle and buy one?    ???
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: kitkatz on November 16, 2008, 04:41:27 PM
I am on an exercise regimen two to three times a week and have gained weight!  Holy crap! However the trainer says it is okay and the weight will come off. Just keep at it. I know muscles weighs more than fat and I think I am doing the muscle thing. When the body realizes hey more muscle than fat is being used then it will drop the weight.  I hope so!
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: jbeany on November 16, 2008, 06:35:05 PM
Gaining muscle is a good thing, kit! 

Wattle, the people I know who have the Wii say it's good for everyone- much better than traditional games in terms of getting the kids some exercise, too.
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: Lucinda on November 16, 2008, 09:22:45 PM
Hey Jbeany.  I think it is great.  Personally I would rather get out and do traditional exercise but for kids who are addicted to their indoor games it is probably fabulous exercise.  I do the tennis and bowling and it is fun without feeling like you are doing exercise.  I just bought the WII fitness but haven't tried it yet.  If you want to spend some time with your kids doing something they will enjoy, the WII is a fun way to do it.  x
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: jbeany on November 17, 2008, 09:04:43 PM
Oooooh, can I confess to being horrid today?  I ate way too much junk - I got a mini box of chocolates for a birthday gift, and ate all of them while I was on dialysis.  It was only 4 pieces, but that wasn't the bad part.  It was the cake I ate for dessert after dialysis that was the problem!  Cake and chocolates on the same day.  I will not be losing any weight this week!
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: kitkatz on November 18, 2008, 11:02:41 AM
Happy birthday lady friend. I hope it tasted good!

Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: kitkatz on January 24, 2009, 04:20:47 PM
I lost another kilo somewhere around here!
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: MIbarra on January 24, 2009, 04:38:56 PM
I think I gained it!   :shy;
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: G-Ma on January 24, 2009, 06:33:05 PM
I got half of it here.   :rofl;
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: kitkatz on January 24, 2009, 09:34:57 PM
You all can keep it as a free gift from me!  :rofl;
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: MIbarra on January 25, 2009, 08:22:26 AM
Are we allowed to re-gift?   :rofl;
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: MandaMe1986 on January 25, 2009, 10:23:40 AM
Ok you have all inspired me...

I need to loose the weight I have gained on PD (they don't call it the Mars bar diet for nothing!).  There's nothing like filling your body with glucose 24/7!

I will start with walking the dog more. But is the Wii that good? My kids have already got PS 2 and 3. Do I really need another console? Or is it all a lot of hype? Will I ever get them away from the TV if I buckle and buy one?    ???

The Wii works, if you do it.  But if you do have a PS2 and 3 there is the game called Dance Dance Revolution.  You can only find the game for the PS2 but some PS3's can play the game as well.  You buy this matt and you dance.  Its fun.  It is something you do when no one is around. :shy;  But it dose work.  It has diffrent levels, and you work your way up.  I have been trying to do it every morning, and it works.  It won't cost as much as buying a wii and the game.  Just thought I would share that.
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: monrein on February 01, 2009, 12:32:38 PM
http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/health/series/recipes_for_health/index.html

Here's a link to some healthy recipes, including some for kids.  They aren't specific to a renal diet but can be adapted in many cases to meet our needs. 
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: thegrammalady on February 01, 2009, 12:38:25 PM
i still have between 20 and 30 pounds to go and they're not going anywhere in a hurry.
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: kitkatz on February 14, 2009, 06:04:53 PM
I couldn't resist.  So true!
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: Zach on February 14, 2009, 08:53:21 PM
I couldn't resist.  So true!
:rofl; :rofl; :rofl;

Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: kitkatz on March 03, 2009, 09:22:24 PM
Well folks. I got weighed and measured today at the gym by the trainer!



Three more pounds off.  I am now at 232 lbs.  Down from 243 lbs.

I have lost a total of six inches too off the body!

Pretty darn good for the me!
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: okarol on March 03, 2009, 11:39:20 PM

 :2thumbsup; You go girl!
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: jbeany on March 04, 2009, 01:53:30 AM
Go, kitty, go!
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: twirl on March 04, 2009, 03:24:19 AM
yeah   kitty,kitty     I am going to eat all those chocolate treats I made for you   :-*  or give them to my husband and children
I have lost 20 since Dec 9------ what a sloooooooooooow go
I am proud of you
(just kidding about eating the chocolate treats -- I do not like chocolate)
your trainer must be motivating you --- got a photo of him :rofl;

please write down a average days of the foods you eat     B,L,D   and snacks  and sneaks  :waving;
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: Zach on March 04, 2009, 08:13:37 AM
Fantastic!
 :beer1;
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: David13 on March 04, 2009, 03:46:16 PM
yeah   kitty,kitty     I am going to eat all those chocolate treats I made for you   :-*  or give them to my husband and children
I have lost 20 since Dec 9------ what a sloooooooooooow go
I am proud of you
(just kidding about eating the chocolate treats -- I do not like chocolate)
your trainer must be motivating you --- got a photo of him :rofl;

please write down a average days of the foods you eat B,L,D and snacks and sneaks :waving;

Slow and steady is the way to do it! 

Twirl and Kit:  You both rock!   :2thumbsup;
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: twirl on March 04, 2009, 04:00:50 PM
we might "rock" but we are much better at "roll"
( no offense intended- Here Kitty, Kitty)

and David 13 thank you
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: G-Ma on March 04, 2009, 04:03:17 PM
 :bandance;      :cheer:        :yahoo;     KK and Twirl.......you


two rock.        :flower;                                                                                                               
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: girliekick on March 26, 2009, 03:47:41 PM
Hi-

Im trying to loose weight to. I honestly dont know where else in the world I could turn to w these odd diets we are put on. 

Congrats on the shed lbs, hope to join you soon. :boxing;

Girl

PS
I heard eating a pickle after eating carbs helps break them down and keep them from turning into fat.
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: kitkatz on March 26, 2009, 07:19:41 PM
March 2009 Picture
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: kellyt on March 26, 2009, 08:13:57 PM
Kitkatz, I saw the photo (the one above) on Facebook and I must say BRAVO!   Tell me what you're eating and how much walking/swimming you do daily.  You are so inspiring!   :clap;
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: kitkatz on March 26, 2009, 08:53:32 PM
Eating??? Hahahah! My trainer makes me write down what I eat.  Today I had all you can eat tea at the Huntington Museum.  Geez.

I work out three days a week.  Usually 45 inside and and hour in the pool.  Sometimes just an hour work out.  Depends on the mood.
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: Zach on March 26, 2009, 09:08:44 PM

I work out three days a week.  Usually 45 inside and and hour in the pool.  Sometimes just an hour work out.  Depends on the mood.


:clap;
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: MandaMe1986 on March 27, 2009, 05:04:55 AM
Wow KitKatz you look wonderful!  I take my hat off to you and Twirl.   You guys do rock, you rock my socks off!
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: David13 on March 27, 2009, 05:08:08 AM
You look great, Kit!   :2thumbsup;

Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: twirl on March 27, 2009, 10:28:23 AM
I still say we roll better than we rock
at least now
I rode my bike for an hour yesterday
inside, of course
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: MandaMe1986 on March 27, 2009, 12:40:27 PM
I joined a gym! And its 24 hours so I actually may go yey!
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: jbeany on April 15, 2009, 03:14:08 PM
Down another .2 today when I left dialysis. :bandance;

I'm trying not to consider this a diet - just a lifestyle I'm switching to instead of the oversized meal plan I used to be on.  My gram wanted to eat out the other day, so off we went to Big Boy, her favorite restaurant.  I was craving a burger, since I haven't had any red meat in a while, so I scanned the menu and ordered the smallest one they serve, and had the salad bar instead of fries.  When the waitress set my little plate with the plain burger next to the veggie pile I had gotten at the salad bar, my gram piped up, "Where's your fries?"   I didn't order any, gram.  I'm having a salad.  "How can you have a burger without fries?"  Hmmmmm. . . .just like this!  Then I had a plate of fruit from the salad bar for dessert instead of the hot fudge brownie thing I would have gotten before.  I left feeling full and satisfied without being crammed to the gills.  It felt good, even if I had to listen to gram's griping about how I'm too worried about my weight and I shouldn't lose anymore or I'll look bad.  HA! (What part of having two chins instead of three is making me look worse, I can't imagine.)  I still haven't figured out why my getting skinnier and healthier bothers her, but I'm ignoring her attempts to sabotage my weight loss. 
40 pounds off, 40 to go!
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: monrein on April 15, 2009, 03:39:32 PM
jbeany...you just described my thinking about food to a tee.  It works really well for weight control and general health and once you get used to it there's no going back.  Your colon will thank you too.  I admire you for taking charge of your long term health.  Big hugs.
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: jbeany on May 01, 2009, 02:21:36 PM
It's official - I left dialysis today no longer in the obese BMI category.  I'm down into the overweight category - finally!   :cheer: 

I feel like doing handstands - but I think I'll just get back on my treadmill!
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: willowtreewren on May 01, 2009, 02:26:48 PM
Congrats!!   :yahoo;

You are an inspiration.   :2thumbsup;

Aleta
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: Zach on May 01, 2009, 02:28:24 PM

It's official - I left dialysis today no longer in the obese BMI category.  I'm down into the overweight category - finally!   :cheer: 


 :beer1;
:waving;
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: twirl on May 01, 2009, 02:29:50 PM
I have lost 40 since dec 9 - 2008    okay, honestly, it is 40 when I leave dialysis and less when I come in for treatment
but what the hell
I would kill for a coke
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: Zach on May 01, 2009, 02:31:23 PM

I have lost 40 since dec 9 - 2008   


 :beer1; :beer1;
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: jbeany on May 01, 2009, 04:32:46 PM
I have lost 40 since dec 9 - 2008    okay, honestly, it is 40 when I leave dialysis and less when I come in for treatment
but what the hell
I would kill for a coke

It's your dry weight that counts for body weight, not the fluid, twirl!  40 is great!  :cheer:
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: twirl on May 01, 2009, 04:47:21 PM
really  ???

that makes me feel better    me before treatment  --- sir big butt :sir ken;
                                        me after treatment --- sir no as big butt   :sir ken;

I am proud of you jelly beany --- you are not old beast anymore  ( had a student tell me she was old beast once )
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: MIbarra on May 01, 2009, 08:09:51 PM
 :yahoo; Yay Twirl and Jbeany! Good for you. You guys motivate me.
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: okarol on May 01, 2009, 08:15:06 PM
It's official - I left dialysis today no longer in the obese BMI category.  I'm down into the overweight category - finally!   :cheer: 

I feel like doing handstands - but I think I'll just get back on my treadmill!

 :cheer:  :cheer:  :cheer:

I have lost 40 since dec 9 - 2008    okay, honestly, it is 40 when I leave dialysis and less when I come in for treatment
but what the hell
I would kill for a coke

 :cheer:  :cheer:  :cheer:
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: monrein on May 02, 2009, 06:21:34 AM
 :clap; Twirl
 :clap; jbeany


It's not easy to lose the weight but it's so important.  You guys and Kitkatz too are real role models for others.

Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: jbeany on July 15, 2009, 05:55:05 PM
I'm now down 49 pounds since I started.  Man, I can't wait for the next pound!  I have 35 more to go to reach my goal weight of a normal BMI.  It didn't seem possible I'd get this far when I started, but I'm getting there.  When I started, my goal was to lose enough to make my transplant team happy - they wanted me down 20 pounds.  I just keep readjusting my goals as I meet the old ones.  My sister and friends have taken to calling me the "skinny b**ch" - and I just say "Thank you!"  :bandance;
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: Hanify on July 15, 2009, 05:57:08 PM
Wow - good on you!  I heard a good tip the other day.  Whether you're at work or at home, get used to standing while you're on the phone.  It's only a little thing, but can make a difference!
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: kimcanada on July 20, 2009, 04:17:28 PM
Amazing job jbeany and twirly whirly I am very proud of you two, its hard enough losing weight, even harder when you are a dialysis patient :grouphug;
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: jbeany on July 20, 2009, 05:06:43 PM
Wow - good on you!  I heard a good tip the other day.  Whether you're at work or at home, get used to standing while you're on the phone.  It's only a little thing, but can make a difference!

I have one step more on that tip - every time I get a phone call while I'm home that I know is likely to last a while, I turn on my tread mill and walk slowly while talking.  Even at 1 mile an hour, a phone call from my Gram can get me half a mile before I can get her off the phone!  Slow steps count too.  When she called tonight, I hadn't done my daily mile yet.  I got 2/10ths in before I said goodbye - then I cranked up and power walked the rest of the mile.
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: del on August 02, 2009, 06:14:51 PM
Good idea jbeany!!  Congrats twirl and jbeany!!!  You have done fabulous with the weight loss.   :bandance; :bandance;  I have about 45 lbs gone since last year and lots more to go!!!
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: willowtreewren on August 02, 2009, 07:14:27 PM
I have been working on this since June 29. I'm only down 7 pounds, but I'm very, very happy about even that amount. Forty more to go and I'll be ecstatic!

Thanks for the inspiration.

 :waving;

 :thx;

Aleta
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: Zach on August 15, 2009, 12:39:06 PM
Good for you!

8)
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: kitkatz on August 15, 2009, 10:10:11 PM
Someone needs to sew my mouth shut I think. Good Lord I am swimming 1/2 mile three days a week and gaining weight. Got to stop eating like a truck driver (Sorry Sluff.)
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: tyefly on August 15, 2009, 11:22:22 PM
       I know that truck driver diet........  I need a new diet........  A diet of motivation..........
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: willowtreewren on August 16, 2009, 07:21:10 AM
This is such a great thread for inspiration.  :clap;

I'm down 10 pounds now. I'm shooting for another 10 by the end of September/first of October. Then I'll tackle the next 10.

 :clap; :clap;

Small steps. Small steps.

At least my husband loves "fluffy" women!

 :rofl; :rofl;

(He also likes skinny b**ches, jbeany!)

Keep it up, (er down) ladies!

Aleta
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: girliekick on September 10, 2009, 05:32:22 PM
Congrats on all the weight loss :boxing;

Tip for PD patients That I just found out. Our Clinic got a new dietitian and she is awesome. There is a computer program that can use your PET test and 24 hr urinalsys and the dialisate strength and volume to determine how many carbohydrate calories you are absorbing a day from PD. I am absorbing 525. This give me a better prospective on how much my intake is.

tips for loosing weight dietitian and I came up with, mix ground turkey with ground beef.  And to ween myself on to diet soda (mt dew no phos, has caffeen) I am going to mix it 1/2 and 1/2 also.

Hoping to loose weight, Have stopped gaining I do believe Same weight for 2 mo

Girl
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: Hanify on September 10, 2009, 05:33:44 PM
Good on you Girlie.  You've turned the corner which is a huge step.  All downhill from here (in a good way).
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: jbeany on December 15, 2009, 11:27:14 AM
Well, the good news is my scale today says I'm down a grand total of 70 pounds.  I was down 53 when I went for the transplant at the end of August, so the rest of that I lost the wrong way - being sick, but heck, it's still off me. (No food by mouth for 2 months is not a weight loss plan I'd endorse!)   I am now 12 pounds from dropping into the "normal" weight category of BMI for my height.

The bad news is that I took a good look in the mirror at the excess flesh still on my thighs and butt, and the oh-so-lovely arm jiggle.  (There's excess flesh on my tummy, too, but it's hard to figure out how much with all the bandages covering the huge open wound!)  There's a lot more fat there than just 12 pounds worth.  That means that the high end of my weight category is still overweight for my frame. 70 pounds ago, I was thinking I'd be able to stop trying and just start maintaining at the high end.  Guess I'm not as "big-boned" as I always claimed I was. . . 
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: YLGuy on December 15, 2009, 11:50:27 AM
I have put on 10 pounds.  177-187.  I want to lose it because now I only have 1 pair of pants that fit.  The great news is I gained the weight because I quit smoking.
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: jbeany on December 15, 2009, 01:06:34 PM
Best reason to gain!  Once you can breath better, you can up the exercise a bit and get the weight back off.
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: del on December 15, 2009, 02:33:38 PM
jbeany 70 lbs is awesome!!!  It must feel so good!!!  I have almost 50 gone and I feel so much better. I need to lose about another 40 before I am in the normal range!!!  I bought a hoody on Saturday.  I bought large because I used to always need extra large.  I had to return it on Monday and buy a small one!!  I tried on medium and it was still big on me!!  I think the hoody must have been a big make though!!  LOL.  Jbeany when you get well enough to start doing a few things again you will start to tone up a little. I haven't lost any weight in the past little while but I am smaller because my clothes are looser on me!!  jbeany do people sometimes look at you since you've lost weight and tell you how different you look.  That makes you feel good too!!!

YLGuy congrats on quitting the habit!! :clap;  Weight is probably easier to lose than it is to quit smoking. 
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: jbeany on December 15, 2009, 04:45:02 PM
I have people who don't recognize me until I start talking.  It does feel wonderful!
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: angela515 on December 18, 2009, 09:13:13 PM
Edited to delete since nobody wanted to reply. Oh well.
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: kitkatz on January 03, 2010, 09:34:16 PM
I fell way off the diet wagon this last year.  I got a cold and quit going to the gym. The weight cam back.  Darn it!  So this year I will go back to the gym and begin to develop some other muscles.
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: okarol on January 04, 2010, 12:23:08 AM

Kit, you were great walking all over Los Angeles yesterday, I figure we walked about 2 hours!  :yahoo;
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: kitkatz on January 05, 2010, 08:06:24 PM
I went to the gym tonight.  5 minute elliptical.  10 on the bike.  1/2 hour with arm weights in the gym area. 10 laps int he pool. Hot tub.
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: okarol on January 05, 2010, 08:10:15 PM
I went to the gym tonight.  5 minute elliptical.  10 on the bike.  1/2 hour with arm weights in the gym area. 10 laps int he pool. Hot tub.

 :clap; You ROCK Kitkatz!  :bow;
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: kitkatz on January 09, 2010, 09:19:58 PM
Going to go back tomorrow if I can get myself motivated and up out of bed.
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: kitkatz on January 09, 2010, 09:21:18 PM

Kit, you were great walking all over Los Angeles yesterday, I figure we walked about 2 hours!  :yahoo;



The only reason I made it was I did not want to disappoint you while we were out. I just go and go and go when I am out sight seeing.  I sure crashed when I got to D that night.
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: willowtreewren on January 10, 2010, 07:12:18 AM
Since the weather turned cold and I haven't been able to use the pool, I've put 5 pounds back on.  >:(

It is soooo hard to be motivated to use the eliptical. I keep trying, though.

Good news is that even with the holidays, it is "only" 5 pounds. Could be worse....
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: jbeany on January 10, 2010, 09:42:52 AM
I'm holding steady right now - I can't do much for exercise until the doc closes the wound in my stomach.  I'm sooooo close to reaching my goal of a BMI under 25.  I'm only 10 pounds away, so being on hold is driving me crazy!

I gained about 5 pounds the first month of being allowed solid food.  I had to get back to my healthy diet of fruits and veggies with a lot less cheese to stop the weight gain.  I was enjoying the lack of food restrictions just a little too much. . .

Once I can do more than a plodding half mile on the treadmill at a time, though, I'm hoping to drop another 25 at least. Death to jiggle!
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: angela515 on January 11, 2010, 06:58:01 AM
Is this thread just for certain individuals or for anyone?

Just asking because I wanted to be a part of the support as well but nobody replied to my post but everyone else got replies, and I didn't wanna intrude on someone else's personal journey. Ack!

So, please let clarify for me, I feel bad if I have intruded on someone else.

Angie <3
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: jbeany on January 11, 2010, 08:18:42 AM
Relax, angie - lots of us only read the last posting, and don't always comment on everything else.  Join the party with the rest of us banging our heads against the frig door. . .
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: angela515 on January 11, 2010, 08:20:56 AM
I'm relaxed. :) I was sincerely asking a question.

I apologize.

Angie <3
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: jbeany on February 20, 2010, 05:01:22 PM
Oooooooh, I hate prednisone appetite.  Hate it, hate it, hate it.  Been watching a slow creep up on the scale since I got home.  Expected some of it - going back to real food from IV nutrition was bound to make me gain a little.  Rebuilding muscle after 2 months of bed rest would likely cause a bit of a gain, too.  I finally managed to cut back on cheese and other goodies enough to start holding steady, instead of gaining, but I'm still fighting food cravings all the time.  I can't wait for my skin graft on this stupid open wound so I can get some speed up on my treadmill again.   :banghead;
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: angela515 on February 25, 2010, 12:08:21 PM
 :grouphug; I feel your prednisone pain.
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: jersey girl on July 29, 2010, 11:28:06 AM
Room for one more?  I am gaining ridiculous amounts of weight on pd.  I need to lose at least 20 pounds.  I have been reading this thread and there are some good tips.  Congrats to the "losers" :cheer:  I hope to join you !!
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: jbeany on July 29, 2010, 08:12:18 PM
 :bandance; :bandance; :bandance;

No time for treadmill lately - actually can't even get to it right now because of the packing mess.  Just had my appointment with my transplant docs this week, and in 4 months, I'm only up half a pound.  That's with little to no regular exercise, and the stress of Gram's death and clearing out her hoarding-overloaded house.  I love being down to just 5 mg of prednisone! My appetite is back to normal, and all that time spent working out a healthy meal plan has served me well.  I'm too busy and stressed to think about trying any new recipes, so my quick healthy stand bys are all I'm getting.   I can't wait for next month when I can settle into a nice walking routine again.  If I can hold off gaining without the workouts, I know I can work on losing the rest of my weight once I'm back on my treadmill 4 or 5 times a week.   
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: jbeany on August 24, 2010, 09:46:43 AM
Heck, never mind the treadmill - just move into an upstairs apartment.  You burn off the calories from the food before it even makes it to the fridge!

My legs are killing me!
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: HouseOfDialysis on April 27, 2011, 04:03:34 PM
After two months on PD, I've seen my scale go up 15lbs. Since I'm starting the cycler tomorrow, I'm hoping to have time to seriously work out without carrying fluid around. I take it this isn't a unique situation as I have noticed lots of PDers mention weight gain.

Are any PD folks able to get the weight off?
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: Aelred on May 24, 2011, 10:00:57 PM
Losing weight is much common problem now a days. Everyone want to loss much weight and looks slim and attractive one.... And for this purpose he has to do allot of.... Suffering allot of for losing weight and got the better one and slim physique....
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: Des on May 24, 2011, 11:42:33 PM
Hi,

I have lost 10kg in the last year.

Everytime I end up in hospital I loose a kilo or two.

This is a crash diet I won't recommend to anyone but it works for me.  :2thumbsup; 
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: kitkatz on May 31, 2011, 10:12:33 PM
Two days of following a food plan. Wish me luck!
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: Alisa on May 31, 2011, 11:12:37 PM
My personal nightmere, other than dialysis.. weight gain... that won't stop or go away.  Since last July I have gained about 50 pounds, yeah that's right 50!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  I am going crazy.  What's changed???? Nothing except I had my parathyroid removed, all 4 glands as a prerequisite for transplant.  Anyone know if that causes weight gain, the doctors say no but I wonder.  Or am I absorbing more calories now after doing PD for 5 years. I am definitely less active as of late but I find it hard to believed that that is the sole reason for my troubles.  So frustrated. Any and all advice and opinions welcome and needed.
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: natnnnat on June 01, 2011, 12:12:45 AM
GOOD LUCK KITKATZ!!!   :cheer: :cheer: :cheer: :cheer: :cheer: :cheer: :cheer: :cheer:
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: okarol on June 01, 2011, 10:44:44 AM
Two days of following a food plan. Wish me luck!
:2thumbsup;
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: willowtreewren on June 01, 2011, 02:00:52 PM
You know, I have been given a clean bill of health, EXCEPT that I'm carrying around an extra 50 pounds that I need to lose.

I read where a girl lost 60 pounds by putting everything she ate on FaceBook! Having it public made her stick with it. She had an app on her phone that automatically posted what she ate to her FB page. So.....I'm wondering.

 :2thumbsup;
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: phyl1215 on June 03, 2011, 07:05:11 AM
I need to lose 50 lbs but would be happy with 25!!!!  I am on PD for over a year and FINALLY have leveled off and weight has been steady so that is good.  Hoping being able to walk outside will speed up some loss.  Glad to have found this thread.  Good luck every one and congrats to all who are losing.
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: kitkatz on June 07, 2011, 01:46:55 PM
8 days on the new eating plan. Feeling better on it. I cleaned out the household cupboards and fridge so no harmful foods are in the house.
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: jbeany on June 07, 2011, 07:52:48 PM
I can't exercise right now, beyond a slow stroll, so I'm stuck, but I've found that cutting carbs helps immensely.  No bread, no crackers and no potatoes has meant no weight gain at all for several months now, even with the %#$^%$ prednisone.  I can't wait for the surgery and recovery to be finished so I can exercise again, but at least I'm not making the problem worse!

Keep going, Kit!

My personal nightmere, other than dialysis.. weight gain... that won't stop or go away.  Since last July I have gained about 50 pounds, yeah that's right 50!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  I am going crazy.  What's changed???? Nothing except I had my parathyroid removed, all 4 glands as a prerequisite for transplant.  Anyone know if that causes weight gain, the doctors say no but I wonder.  Or am I absorbing more calories now after doing PD for 5 years. I am definitely less active as of late but I find it hard to believed that that is the sole reason for my troubles.  So frustrated. Any and all advice and opinions welcome and needed.

I was told not to even think about PD because it makes diabetic gain tons of weight.  Are you diabetic?  Pre-diabetic?  Have they checked your blood sugar lately?
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: Alisa on June 07, 2011, 08:39:03 PM
No I'm not diabetic or pre diabetic . I have been checked and have good glucose levels.  I am working on cutting out liquid calories right now.  I guess its one step at a time but i have such a st rick diet now bc of phosphors and potassium it would suck to limit carbs too.  Can't wait for a transplant .  Hopefully will fix my energy levels and then I can exercise again.
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: jbeany on June 08, 2011, 09:21:02 AM
No I'm not diabetic or pre diabetic . I have been checked and have good glucose levels.  I am working on cutting out liquid calories right now.  I guess its one step at a time but i have such a st rick diet now bc of phosphors and potassium it would suck to limit carbs too.  Can't wait for a transplant .  Hopefully will fix my energy levels and then I can exercise again.

Transplants do give you lots more energy to exercise - and the steroids give you lots more appetite!  Not a win-win situation either.....
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: paris on June 08, 2011, 12:04:09 PM
Alisa, my daughter had a tumor on her thyroid a few years ago and ever since that surgery, her weight is a battle.  The docs say her levels are in the normal range --- but I don't think their range is her normal range.  Too many people have weight problems due to the thyroid.  I think the doctors need to reevaluate their numbers.   I hope things smooth out for you.

I am so fortunate to not be on steroids.  I have lost almost 30 pounds since transplant, but I think it is because my appetite never has come back.  I am never hungry and need to be reminded to eat something.    I hope you get a transplant sometime soon.   This is the first year I have worked on my garden in years because now I can, without being drained for days.   :2thumbsup; for energy!
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: paris on June 08, 2011, 12:05:24 PM
8 days on the new eating plan. Feeling better on it. I cleaned out the household cupboards and fridge so no harmful foods are in the house.

Great job, Kitkatz.   
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: Zach on June 08, 2011, 06:26:53 PM
8 days on the new eating plan. Feeling better on it. I cleaned out the household cupboards and fridge so no harmful foods are in the house.

Excellent Kit!   :boxing;
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: kitkatz on June 16, 2011, 10:20:57 AM
Update:   Here i am still on the eating plan and NO cheating done by me! Working out regularly too.
My work out log so far since  6/6/1.  22.5 miles so far on the Big Wheel tricycle.

Date   Miles   
6/6/11   1   
6/7/11   2.5   
6/8/11   Mike   workout
6/9/11   3   12.9-16-1
6/10/11   Mike   Workout
6/11/11   3   17.1-20.1
6/12/11   3   20.3-23.4
6/13/11   Mike work out   
   Bike ride   3   25.1-28.1
6/14/11   Bike ride 3.5   28.1-31.8
6/15/11   Mike work Out    
6/16/211   Bike Ride  4   48.8-52.9
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: Cordelia on June 16, 2011, 05:57:55 PM
I lost a lot of weight with the renal diet. 60 pounds since last August!!!! That's THEE ONLY good thing about the renal diet!!!! I have also incorporated a lot of walking too into my daily regiment.    :2thumbsup; :yahoo; :clap; :thumbup;
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: okarol on June 19, 2011, 10:06:25 PM
 :clap; Walking is good for your heart too Cordelia!
Way to go Kitkatz!  :2thumbsup;
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: willowtreewren on June 20, 2011, 05:24:13 AM
I downloaded an app to my iPhone that allows me (encourages?) to track all my food and exercise. So far, so good. 4.5 pounds. It has a companion app that provides recipes.  :2thumbsup;

The program is by SparkPeople.

Wish me luck. this beats posting everything I eat to FaceBook.  :rofl; :rofl;

I have also been spending a few minutes on the elliptical each day. Can't hurt!

Aleta
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: natnnnat on June 20, 2011, 06:03:48 PM
Good one Willow(Aleta):  I lost something like 15kg using a similar sort of calorie / exercise counting program (CalorieKing:  http://www.calorieking.com.au/) 
I did it for my wedding dress.  Kept the weight off for a while.
Then stopped using the program, and put 10 back on again.  Sigh.  Anyway, they work, when NOTHING ELSE worked for me.
Best of luck to all dieting and exercising people in this thread.  I should get back to my regular walking (follow Gregory) but ... I don't.
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: jbeany on July 31, 2011, 12:33:04 PM
Well, I'm down 27 pounds in the last month.  I'd suggest NOT being impressed.  When the post-op infection got so bad I couldn't keep water down, the weight just fell away.

I'm back on solid food again, thankfully.  With all the rearranging they did to get my guts back on the inside and pull the massive ventral hernia closed though, I still have hardly any space for normal portion sizes in my stomach.  A single cup of soup is a very filling meal right now.  Given that I've got another 20 - 25 pounds I should probably lose as well, I'm kind of hoping that doesn't change any time soon!

So - my progress runs like this - 230 pre-dialysis.  Gradual weight loss over 3 years, both pre and during D. (Terror that my BMI might keep me off the list is a grand incentive plan.) 175 when I went in for transplant.  Down as low as 155 while still on strict IV nutrition, unable to have anything by mouth for 4 months while the hole in my intestines healed.  Gained almost 20 pounds back in the last 2 weeks they kept me on IV nutrition and had me eating as much as I could hold at the same time, to make sure I could "obtain adequate nutrition orally".  Gained steadily and slowly while on high doses of prednisone for most of the next year.  Leveled off to 5 mg of prednisone and stayed at 196 for the last 6 months, thanks to giving up bread and other processed carbs from flour, in spite of not being able to exercise with the massive hernia.  Then surgery a month ago, and I'm still dropping - currently 169.

145 puts me in the upper range of my ideal BMI for my height.  I know BMI isn't a perfect measure of my ideal weight, but given my build is pretty average - it's got to be awfully close.

Now, to just build up enough stamina again to get back on the treadmill and get the rest off the right way!  Right now, just going downstairs to the mail box is a daily ordeal. 
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: willowtreewren on July 31, 2011, 02:16:22 PM
Jbeany, it sounds like you HAVE been on a treadmill....just the wrong kind.

I have managed 12 pounds in 6 weeks with the Spark People program.  :2thumbsup;

I'm going out to lunch with Mizar on Tuesday. I got smart and down-loaded the nutritional info from the restaurant so I would be prepared. I have a couple of items picked out already so I won't be "tempted" to slip!

Aleta
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: gothiclovemonkey on July 31, 2011, 10:28:34 PM
i joined curves
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: rsudock on August 01, 2011, 01:10:11 AM
Jbeany, it sounds like you HAVE been on a treadmill....just the wrong kind.

I have managed 12 pounds in 6 weeks with the Spark People program.  :2thumbsup;

I'm going out to lunch with Mizar on Tuesday. I got smart and down-loaded the nutritional info from the restaurant so I would be prepared. I have a couple of items picked out already so I won't be "tempted" to slip!

Aleta



I hope Mizar is doing well!! Tell her Hello!! that is great you two are getting together!!

xo,
R
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: kitkatz on August 28, 2011, 03:28:02 PM
17 pounds so far, 1% body fat gone.  Since June 6 of 2011
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: okarol on August 28, 2011, 06:13:00 PM
17 pounds so far, 1% body fat gone.  Since June 6 of 2011

 :2thumbsup; Way to go Kit!!
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: captainallports on July 26, 2012, 11:17:15 AM
We live by some simple rules in our house and it has helped us lose weight and have stronger bodies.
1) Get up and move around at least 30 minutes a day. You don't have to run, or jog, just get up and walk! Take a exercise class you think is interesting. Go swim or water jog. Getting into the pool is great for those just getting back into exercising!
2) No macha! Meaning it's fine to push yourself, but don't do it out of competition or ego. Exercise is just for you.
3) No injuries! Take it slow and easy in the beginning, train your body slowly, give it a chance to adapt and adjust to what you are doing. Exercise shouldn't hurt while you are doing it. You may be sore after, but that's normal.
4) Be conscientious about your food decisions. I know we all have to be aware of what we eat to begin with, but look at cutting back on your portions, eat more veggies and fruit (if you can) The freshest food for your body is the best!
These four simple easy to remember rules have helped me lose 35lbs over the last 7 months. I never consider it a "diet", it's just incremental changes I am undertaking to take care of my body, so I can be here longer with my loved ones, and have a better quality of life. And get the people around you involved. It helps ALOT. I have a trainer, my partner, and four other people I work out with. So I have a whole support team to help me get to the gym when I need it. And some days I need a good butt-kicking to get me motivated to go.
I wish you the best in achieving your weight loss goals!
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: Cynna66 on July 26, 2012, 12:26:41 PM
Hi all. I just joined yesterday but saw this thread and thought I would comment, too! I have been working on weight loss. Joined WW a couple months ago and have been walking, light weights, stretching and floor exercises. I have lost a total of 40 lbs as of this week! It's nice to see a support group here for this sort of a thing! Nice to see all the hard work, it's encouraging!
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: jbeany on August 13, 2012, 03:21:40 PM
Okay, I've had enough!  My favorite jeans are too tight - and they were too loose not that long ago.  Since Friday, I've been counting both calories and carbs.  No more than 1200 calories a day, and no more than 30 carbs a day.  (Yes, I'm turning into a rabbit - there aren't many other food options with those limits!)  I've also added an extra mile a day on my treadmill, and made sure I've been doing it, not just thinking about it, so I'm now doing 2 miles consistently.

I weighed myself again this morning.  4 pounds off in 3 days!   :bandance;

I know I can't keep the 1200 calorie limits up for long without going crazy, but I'm determined I'm going to do it for a week and see how close I can get to the weight I was before I slacked off my diet to remodel my new house.  After that, I'll bump it up to something closer to 1500 or 1600.  I have company coming for the weekend, so I'm not going to manage the diet well then anyhow, so it will be a good time to ease up.
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: Whamo on February 10, 2013, 07:02:29 AM
 :clap; I applaud the success stories I've read on this thread.   :2thumbsup;  I'm going to Disneyland today to party down at the Bayou Bash.  I'm going to focus on the music and fun instead of the food. 
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: geoffcamp on February 10, 2013, 07:24:39 AM
I know this will sound weird but I have kind of the opposite issue. I used to work out a fair bit and was big into sports when I was younger. Since re-starting dialysis after the transplant failed I seem to be loosing all my muscle mass. I eat protein and all my labs are right on the marks but I've lost at least 10-12 kilos of muscle weight in 10 years. Now I'm flabby where I used to be tight. I got back on th gym kick until I had a big issue with my access and my doctors said no more lifting (supposed to stay under 20lbs). I can't seem to figure out a balance between gaing fat and losing muscle mass. Anyone else in my boat. Feel like I'm wasting.
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: cariad on February 10, 2013, 08:07:53 AM
According to the crazy scale, I've lost 3 pounds - so at 127. I am not counting calories (too many years wasted on that) just trying to cut down on carbs and overall amount of food I eat. I don't want to give up wheat because it's just too difficult to find anything at all to eat when I am already a vegetarian. I don't want to spiral back into full-force anorexia either.

I guess my short-term goal is 120, perhaps by the time I fly back to America (about a month from now). My long term goal will be 105ish.
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: cariad on February 23, 2013, 05:41:10 AM
The crazy scale said 124 this morning, I guess I'm down 6 pounds. My clothes seem to be fitting a bit better, so that's nice. I am avoiding sugar as much as possible and trying to make the carbs I do eat of the whole grain variety. (I know, not renal friendly.) This morning I did have half a Costco muffin with Gwyn in bed. Last night they all had Costco pizza and I had vegetable tagine and a large glass of wine. If I am going to eat starchy carbs I find I can get away with it early in the day but at night I will almost inevitably gain weight. I had a slice of the pizza for lunch, so we'll see what the scale says tomorrow. I know it did not accurately reflect my boys' weights, because it said Aidan was 50lbs, but I got a letter from the council that all yr.6 kids were weighed and measured, and Aidan's weight was around 76lbs just as we thought it was.

I have added a new food/supplement to my diet and am testing it out this week, chia seeds. They are tiny black and white seeds that absorb 10 times their size in fluid, turning into a gelatinous substance rather like tapioca in about ten minutes following immersion in liquid. Because they expand so much, people use them to bulk up foods so they eat less, but there is little evidence that they help with weight loss. However, they do supposedly help with manifold other issues like tissue repair after exercise, driving calcium to the skeleton, lowering cholesterol, and providing extra energy. They are called a superfood and came to prominence in the book Born to Run about the native Mexicans who run hundreds of miles a week through the canyons (over rocks, with no shoes) and use this as one of their favoured fuels.

They are sadly not safe for most CKD people I reckon, since one of their touted traits is having twice as much potassium as a banana. However, I only use about a teaspoon a day, so if this is by weight, it would mean that it has twice as much potassium as a bite of banana? I don't know.
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: noahvale on February 23, 2013, 05:56:03 AM
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Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: cariad on February 23, 2013, 06:05:28 AM

I have added a new food/supplement to my diet and am testing it out this week, chia seeds.

Grow your own.   http://www.drugstore.com/chia-barack-obama-determined-pose/qxp213041
It is actually the very same seeds. 
I love the copy that begins "In honoring our 44th US President...."
What an honor indeed. Words would surely fail even our exceptionally eloquent President.
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: dialysis.sucks on February 24, 2013, 01:41:38 AM
I just started juicing two meals out of the three primaries. One week in I lost 7 lbs, my Albumin went to 4.6 from 4.0, Hemoglobin went from 7.1 to 7.9, Calcium went up .3, Potassium went up a bit (so Ill have to watch that) and strangely enough my Kt/V went from .64 to .79... Doctor seems to think that the higher the Hemoglobin goes the better that may get as well. Strangely enough Im not putting on excessive water weight either. Usually less than 2.5 kilos in between treatments.
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: cariad on February 26, 2013, 05:24:10 AM
I think I weighed about the same this morning - don't know because I had an early morning glucose tolerance test at the hospital so it was a bit of a mad rush getting out the door. After the test I walked home, 3 miles. I weighed myself when I got back and was 125, so I am going to guess I put on a pound or so of water weight with all the liquid I consumed and am probably still around 124.  Yesterday I took the bus to the neighbouring town to visit our supremely inconvenient bank and I walked home from there, too - about 2.5 miles.

I *love* these chia seeds. I am such a sceptic, so I never assume any supplement is going to change anything dramatically. I think I've been consuming these for about a week and I don't think I've missed any days. I believe I've been having bouts of blood sugar issues (hypoglycemia) for the past few years because often if I would go too long without eating, I would feel nauseous, hot, faint and crave starchy sugar. I forgot to mention that chia seeds supposedly help even out blood sugar so that you don't get the highs and lows as much through a day. After walking home last night, I had a large glass of wine and then one oatcake with cheddar cheese, and I only had those to be social - I wasn't hungry. Yes, I had had a large lunch, but that was 8 hours earlier. It is strange, but it's fantastic to not feel like I want to eat constantly.

I'll be curious to see if this turns out to just be a coincidence, or if the effect lasts. I am trying to remember to sprinkle some on the boys' food at least once a day. Normally, after walking anything over a mile or so, I don't feel physically worn out so much as sleepy. That has not been a problem these last 2 days, in fact I felt a strong urge to get out and exercise. Low energy has been such an issue for me, I really hope that these make a difference long term.
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: cariad on March 16, 2013, 11:56:03 AM
The crazy scale appears to have been wrong. My parents have one of those doctor's scales and I weighed 115 yesterday morning. ::) How in the hell did it manage to be underweight for the boys but overweight for Gwyn and me? What sort of force of evil is that thing?

My eating habits have gone to hell, though. All I want is guacamole, salsa, and fresh chips from Los Arroyos to dip in them. The kids have been on a similar American binge - they have been asking for corn dogs (??!!) cheeseburgers and still lemonade. They have also discovered pre-mixed Arnold Palmers from Trader Joes which I figure is slightly healthier than plain lemonade, so I am willing to overlook the caffeine. Oh, and Rishi Tea has gone national. I have to buy a metric tonne of the stuff to bring back as the girls got really excited to hear about their mint tea with chocolate notes (divine! Absolutely essential if you are feeling a bit sick.) I am drinking my iced tea again. I really must start making this in Britian, it's not like I lack the tools to make it happen.

It was a surprise to no one that my mother stocks barrels of chia seeds, so I am still using those. The boys, however, have not been so good about eating those. I think the seeds make them feel too full so it interferes with their ability to stuff themselves stupid on all of the foods that they miss. My mother made Belgian waffles the other day and froze them. This morning I made them a waffle topped with a dab of butter, fresh strawberries and blackberries, warm maple syrup, and then several scoops of warm Nutella. (I abhor Nutella - I don't know how they eat it). Anyhow, I doubt they will be able to take another bite of food until dinner. We are also taste testing various peanut butter/chocolate products as my Aussie friend loves them. She asked for Reeses peanut butter cups, but come on, you can get those in England. I am going to try to find a selection of more exotic peanut butter confections, as she said she loves anything with peanut butter. Peanut butter M&Ms were a specific request, apparently these are not available in Britain? We tried a Trader Joes peanut butter and jelly chocolate bar yesterday but I found it too cloying, so we shall pass on importing that one back to the UK.
Title: Re: Losing Weight Support Group
Post by: pagandialysis on October 21, 2013, 02:41:23 PM
In March I weighed 123 KG, wore a XXXL shirt, and a size 52 in the waist.

Now I weigh 113.5 KG, I wear a XL shirt, and a 40 in the waist.

I feel a lot better about myself.....other than the appearance of my access.