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« on: October 09, 2016, 11:49:22 AM »

I’ve been back in Chicago for a week (haven’t been shot at once), something I keep hearing are people who preface any comment about the election with something along the line of: “there is no good choice” or “both are equally flawed, but I am reluctantly voting for …”

Have you ever talked to a person who is voting for Clinton without reservation? Now is your chance, ask me anything.
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« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2016, 01:42:46 PM »

I voted for Clinton for her first term as Senator back when I lived in NY and I am proud and excited to vote for her for President!

I admire her experience, her levelheadedness, her lifelong commitment to public service, and her progressive perspective.  As far as I am concerned, she is the only valid choice for 2016.
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« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2016, 02:59:26 PM »

I am in a state that will always gives it electoral votes to the D so my vote does not matter.

But, I will be voting against Clinton, as I am opposed to the progressive/redistributionist, pro illegal immigrant, agenda.  I feel that any immigration solution MUST balance the equation so that someone who CHOSE to move here illegally is not better off as a result of having chosen to break the law (ie, if they did not wish they had stayed in their native country, the consequences are not severe enough).  That being said, I have sympathy for those moved here as minors who did not personally choose to break the law, so I would tend to cut them a lot of slack.

And yes, Trump is a slimy cheating douchebag pig.  If he wins, I hope he is as fair and honest in his dealing with our trading partners as he has been with those he does business with  :rofl;
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« Reply #3 on: October 09, 2016, 03:03:48 PM »

I'm happy to be voting for Clinton and especially since this should be a year where Virginia matters.  Hopefully her success will drive more women into politics, we can benefit from having more diversity in our leadership in all levels of government.
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« Reply #4 on: October 09, 2016, 03:25:17 PM »

I cannot vote for Hillary.  The dems are scared and so are the good ol' boys of the GOP. 

If digging back 20 years and now 11 years on Trump is all they got?  We only have to go back to every year in the last 5 years for Hillary and Bill.  No thanks!

Make America Great Again!   :cheer:
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« Reply #5 on: October 09, 2016, 05:41:57 PM »

I happily voted for Bill twice and welcome the opportunity to pull the lever for Hillary.  I feel the best way to tell if Trump is lying is watch his lips if they are moving he's lying.






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« Reply #6 on: October 09, 2016, 06:08:23 PM »

I happily voted for bill twice and welcome the opportunity to pull the lever for Hillary.  I feel the best wat to tell if trump is lying is watch his lips if they are moving he's lieing.
What standard do you apply to determine if Hillary is telling the truth?
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« Reply #7 on: October 09, 2016, 06:30:28 PM »

Generally I read the dozens of fact checking organizations which not Hillary may exaggerate from time to time but Trump rarely if ever tells the truth.  Besides lying whats worse is the sheer ignorance of his options.  My personal favorite was when asked about first use policy on nuclear weapons he first said we should not do first use and then said well nothing's off the table.






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« Reply #8 on: October 10, 2016, 07:02:43 AM »

I happily voted for bill twice and welcome the opportunity to pull the lever for Hillary.  I feel the best wat to tell if trump is lying is watch his lips if they are moving he's lieing.
What standard do you apply to determine if Hillary is telling the truth?

The key is to use nonpartisan fact-checking sites. Hands down, Trump lies waaaaaaaaay more than Clinton. In fact, she is rated as the most honest of all the candidates running for president. But the Trump lie machine has done a good job at casting her as the liar. The Trump campaign sound bites appeal to those who don't want to spend time doing their homework.

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« Reply #9 on: October 10, 2016, 09:56:04 AM »

The nearest campaign to trump was in 1934 Germany where Adolph Hitler ran to make Germany great again, he also scape goateed a bunch of minority's.
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« Reply #10 on: October 10, 2016, 10:38:11 AM »

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In fact, she is rated as the most honest of all the candidates running for president.
A  distinction without a difference.

Clinton has a long history of sleazy public sector deals (unless you believe that she met with big donors to the Clnton foundation only as a matter of coincidence).

Trump has a long history of sleazy deals with suppliers and business partners, and made a lot of money off of screwing people over.  Trump U and his comment about Atlantic City "I took a lot of money out of that city" come to mind.

We do not have a credible candidate with any real integrity.
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« Reply #11 on: October 10, 2016, 04:11:42 PM »

It's Hillary for me ,too . I have already voted , don't need nasty Trump for anything , what an utterly disaster he is !!!
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« Reply #12 on: October 11, 2016, 06:02:28 AM »

It's Hillary for me ,too . I have already voted , don't need nasty Trump for anything , what an utterly disaster he is !!!

I really feel like I should go vote early as well.  I'm not looking forward to the lines on election day.  I think there will be very good turnout, despite everyone claiming the choice between the two is not a good choice.
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« Reply #13 on: October 11, 2016, 11:30:03 AM »

Requested my Vote by Mail ballot and have already mailed it in.  In our last primary, I slid in at the last minute and there were at least 150 people in line ahead of me. 

We are voting for our Senator as well so I also have a feeling that the combination of President and Senator, plus an interesting State Constitutional amendment might bring out the voters.  Plus we have County elections as well, including our illustrious State's Attorney.

It's Hillary for me ,too . I have already voted , don't need nasty Trump for anything , what an utterly disaster he is !!!

I really feel like I should go vote early as well.  I'm not looking forward to the lines on election day.  I think there will be very good turnout, despite everyone claiming the choice between the two is not a good choice.
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« Reply #14 on: October 14, 2016, 11:44:04 AM »

It is funny how Trump is a sexual slime ball but Bill Clinton isn't.   :rofl;  AND Hillary who is supposed to be and example for women discredits Bill's women and threatens them. 

I really hope Trump wins.    :cheer:
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« Reply #15 on: October 14, 2016, 12:08:29 PM »

Bill Clinton isn't running for President.  And if you look at how Trump is treating the women who have come forward, I would call it abusive.  I dare you to have your husband cheat on you--and be so publicly shamed-- and not have feelings about the women he dallied with.
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« Reply #16 on: October 14, 2016, 12:26:25 PM »

My husband did cheat on me and I divorced his ass.  That is what Hillary should have done.  Why is she a role model for young women? Staying with an abuser.... Even YOU should agree with that.

When Bill WAS president the thought was His private life has nothing with his Running our Country.  What up?

Do you really think all these women accusing Trump all come out 25 days before the election?  Why now? How much money do you think they got from the Clintons' for lying?

Michelle Obama deserves an Oscar for her performance yesterday.  Like she has NEVER in her life heard such horrible treatment of women.  She needs to listen to her RAP artists more closely.  Bitch Whore on and on....  She is out of touch .... walk downtown and listen to the young men talk to each other and yell at women.  It is disgusting.    IT must be nice to have never heard these profanities. 

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« Reply #17 on: October 14, 2016, 12:31:05 PM »

All of these arguments about character are irrelevant.

Each individual is going to pick the kind of leadership they want (Republican keep what you earn or Democratic redistributioninst), and use the character flaws in the other party's candidate to provide additional justification for their position.

If Trump were a saint, the Democrats would still vote for Hillary; and no matter how clean the Democratic candidate, the republicans are going to vote for their candidate.    Decades from now, it won't be the the character of the president that effects US society, but the SCOTUS picks.
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« Reply #18 on: October 14, 2016, 12:36:58 PM »

You are right... I just hate liars and need to fight back.
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« Reply #19 on: October 14, 2016, 12:40:04 PM »

You are right... I just hate liars and need to fight back.
In that case, you should hate both candidates with a passion.
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« Reply #20 on: October 14, 2016, 12:47:12 PM »

I'm a Republican.  So your theory sets the stage.
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« Reply #21 on: October 14, 2016, 12:48:59 PM »

You are right... I just hate liars and need to fight back.
In that case, you should hate both candidates with a passion.

I'm undecided currently - I won't vote for either Trump or Hillary, but haven't yet decided if I'll vote for Gary Johnson or vote "None of the Above".  I will be voting for state-wide and local offices, just not sure about the President.  Haven't missed voting in a general election since I was able to vote!
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« Reply #22 on: October 15, 2016, 08:05:33 AM »

It is funny how Trump is a sexual slime ball but Bill Clinton isn't.   :rofl;  AND Hillary who is supposed to be and example for women discredits Bill's women and threatens them. 

I really hope Trump wins.    :cheer:

Rerun, I have agreed so much with everything you have posted that I almost feel like we could be clones. How extraordinary that they are smearing him with so many sex scandals right now on the eve of the election. Where were they hiding till now? It's all perfectly timed to create maximum damage and I hope the American public don't fall for these politically motivated stunts.

Also note the hypocrisy of all those Hollywood stars who star in movies that use & abuse women as sex objects everyday but who are now so outraged by hearing some locker-room banter from Trump 11 years ago. What hypocrisy!

If I could vote, I'd be voting for Trump! Many of us on the outside are hoping he can win. He stands for a departure from the madness and idiocy of open borders and mass illegal immigration as well as the redistribution of jobs and industry to the Third World at your country's expense & the rest of the developed world.
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« Reply #23 on: October 15, 2016, 01:13:07 PM »

Trumps chances of winning are closing on zero by the minute,  he invited anyone to step forward who he abused, well guess they did.  Even with out the tape he was sliding in the polls.  Every one hates Bill but during hid administration the middle class made ncome gains and the country as a whole did well then came along Bush the Lesser who wrecked the economy, gave huge tax cuts to the rich and started the Great Recession which Obama inherited and slowly dug us of dispite a obstructionist republican congress.  I have a tee shirt that sums up my feelings " If you are old and eating cat food out of a can, thank a republican!"
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« Reply #24 on: October 15, 2016, 03:21:13 PM »

Regardless of whether you believe the women who have come forward, young girls and young women who are assaulted today and in the future may be afraid to speak up because they fear being disbelieved and treated similarly. It's hard enough reporting it as it is.

As for Hillary leaving Bill, where's the call for Melania to leave The Orange One? It's pure arrogance to say someone should leave a marriage.  Whatever happens within a marriage is between the two parties involved.
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