I am setting up the lawnchairs for the fireworks show. Popping popcorn, too.
I think that there'd be plenty of room in there for a baby and PD fluid. If a person can carry 5 babies at once and have them, then someone can have 1 baby and fluid in there. It'd be a stretch, but it could happen.And here's is the story directly from the horse's mouth about her pregnancy experience on PD:Written by Tish310 on http://www.globaldialysis.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4065&KW=pregnancyQuoteLet me share with you alittle about myself. I've had kidney disease for 35 yrs I've done hemodialysis and peritoneal I've had a total of 4 kidney transplants over the years....well back in 1987 I had gotten pregnant it was very unexpected my hubby and I never planned on having kids and I was told that I couldn't conceive children so life went on for us and guess what I got pregnant I was on peritoneal at the time I didn't even know I was till I was 4 mo along because my periods were far and few I had maybe 2-3 periods a year if that so if I ovulated it wasn't very often. Anyway I was and so I told my Neph about it and he recommended that I really think about keeping my baby or not and I was so happy I thought I didn't or couldn't have a baby so I had never really thought what it would be like to have a baby so when I found out I was it changed my attitude about having one so I told my Neph that I was going to go ahead and have it I told him I would be fine I'll take care of myself really well and I can do this I was so optimistic I wasn't thinking about anything but how happy I was to be pregnant ......well like I said when I found out I was already 4 months along so even if I wanted to and I didn't it would have been too late to get rid of my Baby then two months later I had her she weighed 1 pound 4oz. she was born in my six month I went into pre-mature labor and it couldn't be stopped my daughter was rushed to the nicu were they take all the pre-mature baby's she was so tiny you could see through her skin it was like paper she was very critical for at least 6 weeks she went through at least a dozen surgery's due to many complications with her underdeveloped bowl and also her eye's she also had what's called rickets meaning her bones were weak and fragile she had to have tiny casts on her legs and arms to protect them that was due to me having hypocalcaemia (low calcium level) I didn't have all the best nutrients in my body to give to her because of my own health being deprived of it especially being on dialysis.Well my daughter had to stay in the hospital for 8 months after she was born till she was stable enough to come home about a month before we brought her home the Dr's told us that her retina's in both eye's were blown out meaning she was blind in both eye's when the tiny baby's are born so early they need to be on a respirator to help them breath ....well that's what blows out the retina's in the eye's so she was going to be blind for the rest of her life as well as developmentally delayed she's 19 right now but her mind functions at a 6 yrs old level she was delayed in all her developments like walking, talking, standing, toilet training, Etc.... .I hope with what I wrote doesn't give you the impression that I'm sorry for having had her because I'm not I love her with all my heart & soul I wouldn't give her back for a second the reason I decided to share this with you was to tell you I know how you feel about wanting to leave a piece of you if something should happen to you , and I don't want to tell you what you should do , but please know that your health is not good grant you I don't know what is exactly wrong with you , but please think about how hard it is on your body and what that can do to your baby if your not in good health. I have heard of other kidney patients having healthy baby's I have friends that have done it but they had kidney transplants and they still had to be very careful they had to have bed rest for at least the last 4 months of there pregnancy and they didn't take it to fullterm . I really hope you aren't offended by what I wrote I really mean well whenever I hear of someone that wants to have a baby and there having these types of health issues themselves it really concerns me. Even now our daughter requires a lot from us we are her legal conservators because she can't make decisions for herself she can't be left alone either so she'll never be able to be independent it's a struggle for her because she wants to be but she can't and doesn't understand why.
Let me share with you alittle about myself. I've had kidney disease for 35 yrs I've done hemodialysis and peritoneal I've had a total of 4 kidney transplants over the years....well back in 1987 I had gotten pregnant it was very unexpected my hubby and I never planned on having kids and I was told that I couldn't conceive children so life went on for us and guess what I got pregnant I was on peritoneal at the time I didn't even know I was till I was 4 mo along because my periods were far and few I had maybe 2-3 periods a year if that so if I ovulated it wasn't very often. Anyway I was and so I told my Neph about it and he recommended that I really think about keeping my baby or not and I was so happy I thought I didn't or couldn't have a baby so I had never really thought what it would be like to have a baby so when I found out I was it changed my attitude about having one so I told my Neph that I was going to go ahead and have it I told him I would be fine I'll take care of myself really well and I can do this I was so optimistic I wasn't thinking about anything but how happy I was to be pregnant ......well like I said when I found out I was already 4 months along so even if I wanted to and I didn't it would have been too late to get rid of my Baby then two months later I had her she weighed 1 pound 4oz. she was born in my six month I went into pre-mature labor and it couldn't be stopped my daughter was rushed to the nicu were they take all the pre-mature baby's she was so tiny you could see through her skin it was like paper she was very critical for at least 6 weeks she went through at least a dozen surgery's due to many complications with her underdeveloped bowl and also her eye's she also had what's called rickets meaning her bones were weak and fragile she had to have tiny casts on her legs and arms to protect them that was due to me having hypocalcaemia (low calcium level) I didn't have all the best nutrients in my body to give to her because of my own health being deprived of it especially being on dialysis.Well my daughter had to stay in the hospital for 8 months after she was born till she was stable enough to come home about a month before we brought her home the Dr's told us that her retina's in both eye's were blown out meaning she was blind in both eye's when the tiny baby's are born so early they need to be on a respirator to help them breath ....well that's what blows out the retina's in the eye's so she was going to be blind for the rest of her life as well as developmentally delayed she's 19 right now but her mind functions at a 6 yrs old level she was delayed in all her developments like walking, talking, standing, toilet training, Etc.... .I hope with what I wrote doesn't give you the impression that I'm sorry for having had her because I'm not I love her with all my heart & soul I wouldn't give her back for a second the reason I decided to share this with you was to tell you I know how you feel about wanting to leave a piece of you if something should happen to you , and I don't want to tell you what you should do , but please know that your health is not good grant you I don't know what is exactly wrong with you , but please think about how hard it is on your body and what that can do to your baby if your not in good health. I have heard of other kidney patients having healthy baby's I have friends that have done it but they had kidney transplants and they still had to be very careful they had to have bed rest for at least the last 4 months of there pregnancy and they didn't take it to fullterm . I really hope you aren't offended by what I wrote I really mean well whenever I hear of someone that wants to have a baby and there having these types of health issues themselves it really concerns me. Even now our daughter requires a lot from us we are her legal conservators because she can't make decisions for herself she can't be left alone either so she'll never be able to be independent it's a struggle for her because she wants to be but she can't and doesn't understand why.
Quote from: shay_pcb on February 24, 2007, 12:25:49 AMI think that there'd be plenty of room in there for a baby and PD fluid. If a person can carry 5 babies at once and have them, then someone can have 1 baby and fluid in there. It'd be a stretch, but it could happen.And here's is the story directly from the horse's mouth about her pregnancy experience on PD:Written by Tish310 on http://www.globaldialysis.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4065&KW=pregnancyQuoteLet me share with you alittle about myself. I've had kidney disease for 35 yrs I've done hemodialysis and peritoneal I've had a total of 4 kidney transplants over the years....well back in 1987 I had gotten pregnant it was very unexpected my hubby and I never planned on having kids and I was told that I couldn't conceive children so life went on for us and guess what I got pregnant I was on peritoneal at the time I didn't even know I was till I was 4 mo along because my periods were far and few I had maybe 2-3 periods a year if that so if I ovulated it wasn't very often. Anyway I was and so I told my Neph about it and he recommended that I really think about keeping my baby or not and I was so happy I thought I didn't or couldn't have a baby so I had never really thought what it would be like to have a baby so when I found out I was it changed my attitude about having one so I told my Neph that I was going to go ahead and have it I told him I would be fine I'll take care of myself really well and I can do this I was so optimistic I wasn't thinking about anything but how happy I was to be pregnant ......well like I said when I found out I was already 4 months along so even if I wanted to and I didn't it would have been too late to get rid of my Baby then two months later I had her she weighed 1 pound 4oz. she was born in my six month I went into pre-mature labor and it couldn't be stopped my daughter was rushed to the nicu were they take all the pre-mature baby's she was so tiny you could see through her skin it was like paper she was very critical for at least 6 weeks she went through at least a dozen surgery's due to many complications with her underdeveloped bowl and also her eye's she also had what's called rickets meaning her bones were weak and fragile she had to have tiny casts on her legs and arms to protect them that was due to me having hypocalcaemia (low calcium level) I didn't have all the best nutrients in my body to give to her because of my own health being deprived of it especially being on dialysis.Well my daughter had to stay in the hospital for 8 months after she was born till she was stable enough to come home about a month before we brought her home the Dr's told us that her retina's in both eye's were blown out meaning she was blind in both eye's when the tiny baby's are born so early they need to be on a respirator to help them breath ....well that's what blows out the retina's in the eye's so she was going to be blind for the rest of her life as well as developmentally delayed she's 19 right now but her mind functions at a 6 yrs old level she was delayed in all her developments like walking, talking, standing, toilet training, Etc.... .I hope with what I wrote doesn't give you the impression that I'm sorry for having had her because I'm not I love her with all my heart & soul I wouldn't give her back for a second the reason I decided to share this with you was to tell you I know how you feel about wanting to leave a piece of you if something should happen to you , and I don't want to tell you what you should do , but please know that your health is not good grant you I don't know what is exactly wrong with you , but please think about how hard it is on your body and what that can do to your baby if your not in good health. I have heard of other kidney patients having healthy baby's I have friends that have done it but they had kidney transplants and they still had to be very careful they had to have bed rest for at least the last 4 months of there pregnancy and they didn't take it to fullterm . I really hope you aren't offended by what I wrote I really mean well whenever I hear of someone that wants to have a baby and there having these types of health issues themselves it really concerns me. Even now our daughter requires a lot from us we are her legal conservators because she can't make decisions for herself she can't be left alone either so she'll never be able to be independent it's a struggle for her because she wants to be but she can't and doesn't understand why. OK, read it again...There's NOTHING that has ANYTHING to do with ME having a baby or wanting to have a baby...Please, ANYONE explain how that caused all of this?? I didn't mention still wanting a baby after hearing that story; I didn't mention still wanting a baby AT ALL!! Epoman did in the next post!! HE started ALL of this!!!
But, like you said, I didn't bring it up, so can we just drop it and get back to answering her question? That was all I was trying to do; not argue with anyone...I'll just be sure to stay away from topics that involve babies from now on since I now know how people can't let things go. I thought this was over with...
I'm happy that Shay has decided not to have a baby while on dialysis. Let's not push her over the edge boys! Shay I think you shared that story to prove that people do have children "whilst" (Is That A Word) on dialysis. But, the article backfired because the kid was retarded! I don't think being 19 and having the mind of a 6 year old is just mildly mentally disabled! My Gosh, that poor girl will never live on her own or contribute to society except with love to her relatives. I don't believe in abortion, and that mother did not plan this pregnancy. So, let's just drop it. YOU are not that stupid to get pregnant knowing what you know now.
"whilst" (Is That A Word)
Quote from: Rerun on February 25, 2007, 08:50:18 AM "whilst" (Is That A Word) Yes, it is a word. whilst • conjunction & adverb chiefly Brit. while.http://www.askoxford.com/results/?view=dev_dict&field-12668446=whilst&branch=13842570&textsearchtype=exact&sortorder=score%2Cname
Getting back to the original question posted ....it just seems like common sense that if a woman is on dialysis, more than likely her body chemistry is very much out of whack, and is not in a healthy state. Since a child in utero is developing on nutrients provided by the mother and can be affected by meds the mother takes as well as the diet the mother follows (we all know the renal diet isn't exactly "healthy"...no dairy, no whole grains, etc.), it stands to reason that the baby will suffer developmentally if it fully develops at all. I have read the story that Shay posted (on another site) and it just confirmed my belief that it is a very bad idea. Besides, the woman's health is bound to deteriorate with the extra stress that carrying a child would put on her body. What child, even born healthy, wants to grow up without a mother?I'm glad Shay posted the story for people to read that are considering having children (or not using birth control) while on dialysis. It is a very sad and tragic story, and is a good reality check for anyone considering risking having a child while on dialysis.