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« on: July 20, 2010, 04:26:32 AM »

Ok here is my question.. is random nausea normal? This morning he woke up at 430 am and he was very nauseated. He sat on the side of the bed burping for several mins and then ran to the bathroom to vomit and all he vomits up is bile. That disgusting yellow green stuff that smells horriable and taste even worse. I just dont know what to do to help him. We have phenagin but if he wakes up with nausea and vomits 5 mins later there is not enough time for it to work. I just worry about him so much when he get sick randomly and no one can give us answers to why it happens. So now he is back in bed asleep and here I am 3 hours later still awake because I cant sleep when I worry about him. OH this is going to be a long day.
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« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2010, 04:32:01 AM »

Frank also get random nausea & the nurses said it is part of kidney failure. It is scary I know.
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« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2010, 07:49:52 AM »

dialysismomma, being a carer is so scary, as you say when they are ill it is a worry.You do not say what kind of dialysis your man is on, is he on dialysis? Being sick and nauseous is a part of kidney failure your best bet is to have a word with your neph or doctor, there are things they can give you. Are all his bloods all right? I also lay in bed at night worrying, its a kin to listening to a new born baby, if my husband coughs which is regular,  another thing with kidney failure, I am awake. If he moves or sits out of bed because he can not breath, I am awake, you would not be human if  you did not worry.
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« Reply #3 on: July 20, 2010, 08:43:13 AM »

Billybags he is on home hemo. He has phenagrin for the nausea but most of the time it hits him so fast he has no time to take his pill. So I guess we have to deal with it
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« Reply #4 on: July 20, 2010, 11:00:44 AM »

It seems so. We, too, have seen this lovely yellow green stuff. Frequently the phenergan is unnecessary because, after throwing up, the nausea is gone.

Some identifiable causes for my brother are rapidly dropping bp such as at the beginning of dialysis, an empty stomach after sleeping, diabetes (gastroparesis), dirty blood (noticeable after the "three day weekend"), and the biggie - coughing until he throws up.

But, I cannot attribute all cases of nausea to one of these causes. Sometimes, for no obvious reason  :puke; Random... we carry 1 gallon ziplock bags with us wherever we go.
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« Reply #5 on: July 20, 2010, 12:23:48 PM »

sounds about right, I vomit all the time when i was on hemo. I havent nearly as much since i started pd.
The bile vomits, i see mostly with bp issues. Random vomits from coughing too much, not getting good treatments, missing treatments, etc. Sometimes just happened too. Id sit there and be like WOAH vomit.
between the headaches and vomitting, i asked the dr, he said sometimes it happens and there is nothing to do .
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« Reply #6 on: July 20, 2010, 08:01:11 PM »

Hmm, sometimes Mike will randomly feel sick.. for 30 mins or so, then will dissapear. He never vomits though, but he has come close to.
He's on PD even  :waiting;
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« Reply #7 on: July 20, 2010, 08:37:00 PM »

I too have this problem. However it comes on so suddenly and with no warning. I do notice that with movment it gets worce and all i can do is try to get ovr it and lay down until it goes away.Was not sure of the reason for it but im thinking it may have to do with meds im on too.  Its just another part of living with kidney failure and has come part of the norm for me.
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« Reply #8 on: July 20, 2010, 11:22:50 PM »

Well, I am really glad this thread was started. I have had a couple of episodes of vomiting, even tho I am not on D yet. Mentioned it to my neph and he says there must be something else wrong, as vomiting is not part of the kidney disease. So, he told me to take Prilosec, which I did and two or three days later, saw the ad on Plavix on TV, which says, do not take Prilosec if you take Plavix. I am rapidly losing confidence in this Dr. and may have to change soon.
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« Reply #9 on: July 21, 2010, 08:41:41 AM »

jean, idk why he would say that, seeing u havent started D yet, thats when I was the worst. all the toxins are building up, thats probably why ur throwing up. When u start D u will probably stop doing it as much, unless ur not getting good treatments (which seems to be my problem) or from coughing so much i throw up, theres a few reasons we throw up due to dialysis lol
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« Reply #10 on: July 21, 2010, 12:16:21 PM »

My husband vomited  the whole time he was on dialysis- and we had countless doctors tell us it had nothing to do with kidney failure, this is the only place we ever received validation that it seemed to be just part of the disease of kidney failure. I printed of some old threads about this subject and gave them to his neph. Jack was hospitalized for vomiting over 20 times the first year, after that it settled down and he only vomited once or twice a day. He actually got used to dealing with it.
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« Reply #11 on: July 28, 2010, 05:11:03 AM »

Hubby had significant vomiting of bile when he was on in-center hemo but it has lessened with home hemo.  He still does but it seems more like it's when his BP is out of whack. 
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« Reply #12 on: July 28, 2010, 06:18:21 AM »

its "funny" to me that all these nephs seem to say its not related to kf... I think the doctors are really... daft.
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« Reply #13 on: July 28, 2010, 06:23:31 AM »

My husband vomits often too. from having kidney failure and I think sometimes right after he takes  his morning meds. Bile is usually thrown up after there is nothing left in your system to digest. It's really gross, but not necessarily meaning there is a complication from vomiting bile. Bile is stored in the Gall Bladder. Be sure to let the Dr. know all this though as they know your husband's medical history best. Seems though, vomiting & kidney failure go to together. I think it may have to due withthe factthat vomiting is often our bodies response to ridding something. Too much alcohol, a "bad" food, etc.. In your case, unwanted toxins in the blood. It is not pleasent and I certainly hope you can find a way to deal with this. Check all your pills and see if any of them have to taken on a full stomach. That may be the culprit.
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« Reply #14 on: July 28, 2010, 06:02:19 PM »

TS's last line is an important one, it reminded me that my bottle of Levothroid (thyroid hormone) states quite clearly on the label "take on empty stomach". I believe that food acts as a binder and it won't be absorbed into the system if taken with food or a not empty stomach......
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« Reply #15 on: July 28, 2010, 06:37:38 PM »

I've never vomited, but I do have nauzea. I take zofran because in my oppinion it's better then phenergan as far as zofran doesn't make you feel loopy and stuff like phenergan does.
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« Reply #16 on: July 30, 2010, 06:52:56 AM »

phenogrin is terrible, it makes me uber tired, and gives me the WORST case of rls known to man. Id rather vomit than have RLS!
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« Reply #17 on: July 31, 2010, 09:58:56 PM »

What are all these meds you guys are talking about?
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« Reply #18 on: September 16, 2010, 04:02:18 PM »

Have to love this site.  I do not usually throw up.  Today I have not been feeling well.  I threw up a bunch of bile and it concerned me so I googled kidney failure and throwing up bile and it took me right to this thread.  I knew I should have just checked here first. 
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« Reply #19 on: September 17, 2010, 05:59:25 AM »

YLGuy, I love it . Fancy googling when you can have your pick of " budding nephs and nurses" on here. Shame on you!!!!!!!!!!!!  :bandance;
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« Reply #20 on: September 17, 2010, 08:51:15 AM »

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« Reply #21 on: September 19, 2010, 03:06:57 PM »

Sorry to be the prophet of doom. Sound about right.
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« Reply #22 on: September 19, 2010, 06:32:09 PM »

See this is strange - I've thrown up exactly once since starting D in 2006 - and that was in 2007 and I am almost certain it was something dodgy I ate. Sometimes I feel a bit sick in the stomach, but I've been lucky that I've never been that sick while on the machine (I threw up at home) or anything like that. I have to say also on my shft in the unit it's pretty rare for anyone to throw up, though it has happened - usually with acute/new patients.

Does that mean that throwing up is related to KD? I think it might well be that some forms of kidney failure, linked with specific medications, perhaps cause the vomtiing. I too have never heard of some of these meds you guys are on - because I'm just not on them - and that may definitely relate to what you're going through.

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« Reply #23 on: April 16, 2012, 11:51:45 PM »

I posted on another thread and was referred to this one. Its good to know that my sporadic vomiting puts me in good company. I have had the dry heaves and/or vomiting on both PD and in center D. It seems some what related to indigestion. I tried prilosec but that was useless. FYI my acupuncturist says that my digestion issues are directly related to my kidney failure. According to Chinese medicine the "middle burner" which is responsible for metabolizing fluids gets over loaded and the digestion gets overwhelmed and reverses. I do notice that I am more likely to up chuck after drinking something cold - like ice tea - which goes with the Chinese medicine view that cold is counter productive as this also suppresses the middle burner. I cant say i am a professional on this topic but it all makes sense - certainly more than what your average neph would say....
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« Reply #24 on: April 17, 2012, 02:41:57 AM »

I always feel nauseated in the mornings, it's like morning sickness when you're pregnant !!  It wears off tho - I am pre-dialysis. My neph always asks me if I have started vomiting yet!!
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