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« on: July 20, 2011, 07:03:01 PM »

We just had a patient get sentenced 90 days in jail, she's trying to get out of it saying she needs dialysis, I told the nurse I said well maybe they'll bring her in shackles and cuffs, we both started cracking up! Seriously though how do they dialyze patients in jail or prision? If they bring them in like that I'd sure be embarrassed!
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« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2011, 07:25:29 PM »

Depending upon the state, and the jail (i.e gov't funding) they can send the pt. out to the unit, or some facilities actually have a unit within them, because they have nurses on staff that are trained.  Is she going to prison?  Or a county jail?  I guess it all depends on the offense too.  Bet there's a lot of discussion around your unit huh?? :secret;
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« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2011, 07:51:37 PM »

One at my unit was placed on house arrest - ankle bracelet, breathalyzer hooked to his phone that called him at random hours, etc.  I picked him up and drove him to the center - I wasn't even allowed to stop at the grocery store for 5 minutes on the way home - he had to be accountable for every minute he was on the road and at the center, with forms for the nurses to fill out about when he arrived and when he left, and if we got stuck in construction, he had to be able to prove it with a traffic report!
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« Reply #3 on: July 20, 2011, 09:35:31 PM »

I'm not kidding...... It was Halloween and this guy came into our unit in an orange jump suit with two escort cops and I said "Great idea".

I thought it was a halloween stunt!  It was not.  He was in jail and had to be dialyzed.  That was in CA. 
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« Reply #4 on: July 20, 2011, 09:52:01 PM »

At my unit there have been a couple of gentleman in jail. The cops just escort them in to the lobby and back to the unit. Some are wearing jump suits, some not...the cops just wait in the lobby for them to finish.
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« Reply #5 on: July 20, 2011, 11:57:41 PM »

We have had a few at our center, always escorted by an officer, in cuffs and shackles.  The officer stays with the patient the entire session, and escorts him/her back to jail.  Doesn't look like fun...
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« Reply #6 on: July 21, 2011, 12:39:59 AM »

i'd guess not, most all people in jail would get escorted to hospital
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« Reply #7 on: July 21, 2011, 02:02:40 AM »

We have a convict in our unit, he is always with a prison guard escort. I don't know for sure but I was told he a serial killer from back in the 70's.  He is very old and I'm not sure if he's not allowed to talk or just can't talk. He appears to have many medical problems.
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« Reply #8 on: July 21, 2011, 08:54:44 AM »

Surely they don't keep them in shackles and cuffs while they're actually ON the machine? That seems a little redundant; where the hell are they gonna go?
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« Reply #9 on: July 21, 2011, 09:56:00 AM »

When I did hemo....there was a guy that came in with two sheriff deputies. They stayed right there next to him the whole time.  If I remember correctly they kept his feet shackled.
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« Reply #10 on: July 21, 2011, 01:48:54 PM »

When Sharon did in center at the facility near the County Jail it was quite common to see a prisoner escorted in with ankle chains and having a belly chain (that was removed during treatment), the escort was always seated nearby, about 30 miles away is a State Prison, they do Dialysis at the Prison, our nurses here tell me they use 14 gauge needles to do the job......
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« Reply #11 on: July 21, 2011, 06:48:59 PM »

This is the same patient I spoke about a while back who tried to attack a patient for not giving her money and asking everyone in the unit for food and money. I guess we'll see what happens!
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May 13, 2009, went to urgent care with shortness of breath
May 19, 2009, went to doctor for severe nausea
May 20, 2009, admited to hospital for kidney failure
May 20, 2009, started dialysis with a groin cath
May 25, 2009, permacath was placed
august 24, 2009, was suppose to have access placement but instead was admited to hospital for low potassium
august 25, 2009, access placement
January 16, 2010 thrombectomy was done on access
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