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« Reply #25 on: July 04, 2011, 02:09:15 PM »
Loving the Mr. Men digression!  I still buy Mr. Men books for birthdays and whatnot ... they're a fabulous cheap little gift if you find the right one for the right person.  They do an 'added sparkle' range now; I bought Blokey 'Mr. Bump and the Knight' (not just because it had a glittery sword on the front cover!) a couple of years ago.

As for the original Love v. Health question ... that's a toughie, and I think Richard is right; if you asked a bunch of people on a completely different forum they would have a completely different response.  I would side with Health, personally.
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« Reply #26 on: July 04, 2011, 02:57:27 PM »
Health.  I'd like to live to at least age 90 in good health...
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« Reply #27 on: July 04, 2011, 05:24:23 PM »
You really don't get to choose - "life is like a box of chocolate" - you never know what your going to get. My 10 you decent into kidney failure and now my 4 years on D have also been the happiness of my life all because I found the love of my life all while my health got worse. I would do it all over again.
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« Reply #28 on: July 04, 2011, 05:52:17 PM »
Ummm, the box of chocolates I get, I always know what I'm gona get. ;D
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« Reply #29 on: July 05, 2011, 03:32:05 AM »
HEALTH IS PRECIOUS  :cuddle;
But TRUE LOVE conquers all...
Thats my thought for the day  8)
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« Reply #30 on: July 05, 2011, 04:32:56 PM »
My thought for the day, I have a puppy now so screw love and give me health! ;D :sarcasm;
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Diabetes -  age 7

Neuropathy in legs age 10

Eye impairments and blindness in one eye began in 95, major one during visit to the Indy 500 race of that year
   -glaucoma and surgery for that
     -cataract surgery twice on same eye (2000 - 2002). another one growing in good eye
     - vitrectomy in good eye post tx November 2003, totally blind for 4 months due to complications with meds and infection

Diagnosed with ESRD June 29, 1999
1st Dialysis - July 4, 1999
Last Dialysis - December 2, 2000

Kidney and Pancreas Transplant - December 3, 2000

Cataract Surgery on good eye - June 24, 2009
Knee Surgery 2010
2011/2012 in process of getting a guide dog
Guide Dog Training begins July 2, 2012 in NY
Guide Dog by end of July 2012
Next eye surgery late 2012 or 2013 if I feel like it
Home with Guide dog - July 27, 2012
Knee Surgery #2 - Oct 15, 2012
Eye Surgery - Nov 2012
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« Reply #31 on: July 05, 2011, 09:43:42 PM »
How about true love with a person who has the same blood type?  :rofl;

Just joking Aaron bear is AB blood type...no match, but I wouldn't trade him.

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« Reply #32 on: July 06, 2011, 08:09:13 AM »
I would choose health....
In my opinion there is no such thing as true romantic love. It's a fairy tale...that stuff doesn't happen in real life.
I think true love exists between a mother (& dads) and child.....well most mothers Casey Anthony excluded.  ::)
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« Reply #33 on: July 06, 2011, 08:49:06 AM »
Quote from: Brightsky69 on July 06, 2011, 08:09:13 AM
In my opinion there is no such thing as true romantic love. It's a fairy tale...that stuff doesn't happen in real life.


I don't think it's a fairy tale - I just think the odds are incredibly rare - like winning a multi-state lotto.  Someone wins, and sometimes we get to see it in action, so we keep holding out hope for our own.  There was a set of double obits in the local paper not long ago - a couple who died at ages 95 and 96 within hours of each other, having been sweethearts since 5th grade.  They were in the same nursing home together, and would spend hours every day just sitting and holding hands.

Now, I read the hypothetical question to mean it was an either/or choice.  Either perfect health OR finding true love.  You had to pick one only.  I'd go for true love, myself.
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« Reply #34 on: July 06, 2011, 09:31:26 AM »
Ok...I'll give you that. Romantic love can happen once in a blue moon...an extremely rare occurrence.  ::)
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« Reply #35 on: July 06, 2011, 02:06:45 PM »
A little off topic but if you want to read about true love and kidney disease, read this book.

http://leeswammes.wordpress.com/2011/02/08/book-review-moonface-by-angela-balcita/

http://www.amazon.com/Moonface-True-Romance-Angela-Balcita/dp/0061537314

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« Reply #36 on: July 06, 2011, 06:40:19 PM »
Well, this one is easy for me because I have met the man of my dreams and he helps me get though the D stuff.    We've been married almost 13 years and I'm pretty sure he will stay by my side forever. 
I would not give him up to be healthy in a million years!!!! 
I did have a divorced coworker that hinted to the idea that she'd rather have my renal failure and a fabulous spouse then be single, so there are those out there.  She also is acutely aware of what I have in my husband.   

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In my opinion there is no such thing as true romantic love. It's a fairy tale...that stuff doesn't happen in real life.
It  sure does happen and I am living in that so called fairy tale.  Would love to have more health to enjoy more things with my husband, but he does keep me grounded and aware of why I wake up every morning.  He is my blessing!   
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« Reply #37 on: July 07, 2011, 01:36:47 AM »
So umm what about True Sex?   :rofl; :rofl; :rofl;
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« Reply #38 on: July 07, 2011, 08:54:01 AM »
Quote from: RichardMEL on July 07, 2011, 01:36:47 AM
So umm what about True Sex?   :rofl; :rofl; :rofl;
Well that's without a pc then and well a real person involved..... :rofl; :rofl;
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Diabetes -  age 7

Neuropathy in legs age 10

Eye impairments and blindness in one eye began in 95, major one during visit to the Indy 500 race of that year
   -glaucoma and surgery for that
     -cataract surgery twice on same eye (2000 - 2002). another one growing in good eye
     - vitrectomy in good eye post tx November 2003, totally blind for 4 months due to complications with meds and infection

Diagnosed with ESRD June 29, 1999
1st Dialysis - July 4, 1999
Last Dialysis - December 2, 2000

Kidney and Pancreas Transplant - December 3, 2000

Cataract Surgery on good eye - June 24, 2009
Knee Surgery 2010
2011/2012 in process of getting a guide dog
Guide Dog Training begins July 2, 2012 in NY
Guide Dog by end of July 2012
Next eye surgery late 2012 or 2013 if I feel like it
Home with Guide dog - July 27, 2012
Knee Surgery #2 - Oct 15, 2012
Eye Surgery - Nov 2012
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No two day's are the same, are they?
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« Reply #39 on: July 07, 2011, 09:37:22 AM »
Too funny  :rofl;
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« Reply #40 on: July 07, 2011, 10:08:20 AM »
Quote from: RichardMEL on July 07, 2011, 01:36:47 AM
So umm what about True Sex?   :rofl; :rofl; :rofl;
Whats true sex?
Real sex as opposed to cybersex?
Romantic sex as opposed to lustful sex?
or ...(I could go on...)

which got me thinking..
Real love can hit on a cold and wet Monday morning when you sudden realise You do...
Ill health can creep up on you un-noticed on that wet Monday morning when you suddenley realise you can't anymore...
And true sex...when eyes meet across the table at Wednesday lunchtime and you know there's only on place you are both headed...

Rich You and your random comments!!!!  :urcrazy;
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Back on HD (not easy to do that third time around)
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« Reply #41 on: July 07, 2011, 12:54:04 PM »
I disagree Sugarlump, I need a brick on the noggen to let me know if a woman is interested, ill health I can feel. I guess I'm wired wrong, union must have been on lunch or on strike at the time of construction  :rofl;
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Diabetes -  age 7

Neuropathy in legs age 10

Eye impairments and blindness in one eye began in 95, major one during visit to the Indy 500 race of that year
   -glaucoma and surgery for that
     -cataract surgery twice on same eye (2000 - 2002). another one growing in good eye
     - vitrectomy in good eye post tx November 2003, totally blind for 4 months due to complications with meds and infection

Diagnosed with ESRD June 29, 1999
1st Dialysis - July 4, 1999
Last Dialysis - December 2, 2000

Kidney and Pancreas Transplant - December 3, 2000

Cataract Surgery on good eye - June 24, 2009
Knee Surgery 2010
2011/2012 in process of getting a guide dog
Guide Dog Training begins July 2, 2012 in NY
Guide Dog by end of July 2012
Next eye surgery late 2012 or 2013 if I feel like it
Home with Guide dog - July 27, 2012
Knee Surgery #2 - Oct 15, 2012
Eye Surgery - Nov 2012
Lifes Adventures -  Priceless

No two day's are the same, are they?
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« Reply #42 on: July 07, 2011, 07:06:52 PM »
Quote from: Sugarlump on July 07, 2011, 10:08:20 AM
And true sex...when eyes meet across the table at Wednesday lunchtime and you know there's only on place you are both headed...

but... but.... I can't get there before Thursday lunchtime !!!!! :(
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« Reply #43 on: July 07, 2011, 10:37:58 PM »
Quote from: RichardMEL on July 07, 2011, 07:06:52 PM
Quote from: Sugarlump on July 07, 2011, 10:08:20 AM
And true sex...when eyes meet across the table at Wednesday lunchtime and you know there's only on place you are both headed...

but... but.... I can't get there before Thursday lunchtime !!!!! :(

 :rofl; :rofl; :rofl; :rofl; :rofl;
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Diabetes -  age 7

Neuropathy in legs age 10

Eye impairments and blindness in one eye began in 95, major one during visit to the Indy 500 race of that year
   -glaucoma and surgery for that
     -cataract surgery twice on same eye (2000 - 2002). another one growing in good eye
     - vitrectomy in good eye post tx November 2003, totally blind for 4 months due to complications with meds and infection

Diagnosed with ESRD June 29, 1999
1st Dialysis - July 4, 1999
Last Dialysis - December 2, 2000

Kidney and Pancreas Transplant - December 3, 2000

Cataract Surgery on good eye - June 24, 2009
Knee Surgery 2010
2011/2012 in process of getting a guide dog
Guide Dog Training begins July 2, 2012 in NY
Guide Dog by end of July 2012
Next eye surgery late 2012 or 2013 if I feel like it
Home with Guide dog - July 27, 2012
Knee Surgery #2 - Oct 15, 2012
Eye Surgery - Nov 2012
Lifes Adventures -  Priceless

No two day's are the same, are they?
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« Reply #44 on: July 08, 2011, 01:38:22 AM »
Bring back Concorde!!!!  :rofl;
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27/11/2010: Cadaveric kidney transplant from my wonderful donor!!! "Danny" currently settling in and working better every day!!! :)

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« Reply #45 on: July 08, 2011, 04:05:41 AM »
Well its Friday today ... raining again ... and I wish concorde could take me anywhere it wants away from this
wet wet wet place   >:(
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3 years HD 1st transplant Feb 08 failed after 3 months
Back to HD 2nd transplant Dec 10 failed after 11 months
Difficult times with a femoral line and catching MSSA (Thank you Plymouth Hospital)
Back on HD (not easy to do that third time around)
Fighting hard (two years on) to do home HD ... watch this space!
Oh and I am am getting married 1/08/15 to my wonderful partner Drew!!!
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« Reply #46 on: July 08, 2011, 07:30:21 AM »
Quote from: RichardMEL on July 08, 2011, 01:38:22 AM
Bring back Concorde!!!!  :rofl;
More than a mile high club there sparky?  :rofl;
 
I wanna hear more about this true sex though since I have never heard that expression :-[ :rofl; , True Blood reference?
 
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Diabetes -  age 7

Neuropathy in legs age 10

Eye impairments and blindness in one eye began in 95, major one during visit to the Indy 500 race of that year
   -glaucoma and surgery for that
     -cataract surgery twice on same eye (2000 - 2002). another one growing in good eye
     - vitrectomy in good eye post tx November 2003, totally blind for 4 months due to complications with meds and infection

Diagnosed with ESRD June 29, 1999
1st Dialysis - July 4, 1999
Last Dialysis - December 2, 2000

Kidney and Pancreas Transplant - December 3, 2000

Cataract Surgery on good eye - June 24, 2009
Knee Surgery 2010
2011/2012 in process of getting a guide dog
Guide Dog Training begins July 2, 2012 in NY
Guide Dog by end of July 2012
Next eye surgery late 2012 or 2013 if I feel like it
Home with Guide dog - July 27, 2012
Knee Surgery #2 - Oct 15, 2012
Eye Surgery - Nov 2012
Lifes Adventures -  Priceless

No two day's are the same, are they?
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« Reply #47 on: July 11, 2011, 07:51:50 AM »
LOL Chris mate... no reference to anything. I just made it up after reading this thread.. though I do understand there is lots of sex in True Blood - but it's not a show I watch (much prefer Game of Thrones :) ).

Anyway I guess I was just playing on the mix of true lovr or true health.... true sex!!! lol

just being silly - as everyone would expect from me! :)
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27/11/2010: Cadaveric kidney transplant from my wonderful donor!!! "Danny" currently settling in and working better every day!!! :)

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« Reply #48 on: July 11, 2011, 10:05:35 AM »
It's good to be silly though ;D :2thumbsup;
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Diabetes -  age 7

Neuropathy in legs age 10

Eye impairments and blindness in one eye began in 95, major one during visit to the Indy 500 race of that year
   -glaucoma and surgery for that
     -cataract surgery twice on same eye (2000 - 2002). another one growing in good eye
     - vitrectomy in good eye post tx November 2003, totally blind for 4 months due to complications with meds and infection

Diagnosed with ESRD June 29, 1999
1st Dialysis - July 4, 1999
Last Dialysis - December 2, 2000

Kidney and Pancreas Transplant - December 3, 2000

Cataract Surgery on good eye - June 24, 2009
Knee Surgery 2010
2011/2012 in process of getting a guide dog
Guide Dog Training begins July 2, 2012 in NY
Guide Dog by end of July 2012
Next eye surgery late 2012 or 2013 if I feel like it
Home with Guide dog - July 27, 2012
Knee Surgery #2 - Oct 15, 2012
Eye Surgery - Nov 2012
Lifes Adventures -  Priceless

No two day's are the same, are they?
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« Reply #49 on: July 11, 2011, 05:55:28 PM »
Mmmmm Rich I need some cardboard crocodiles any suggestions???  :cuddle;
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10 years of half a life
3 years HD 1st transplant Feb 08 failed after 3 months
Back to HD 2nd transplant Dec 10 failed after 11 months
Difficult times with a femoral line and catching MSSA (Thank you Plymouth Hospital)
Back on HD (not easy to do that third time around)
Fighting hard (two years on) to do home HD ... watch this space!
Oh and I am am getting married 1/08/15 to my wonderful partner Drew!!!
The power of optimism over common sense :)
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