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« Reply #25 on: January 25, 2007, 08:21:46 PM »

Right now, I'm having black olives and baby green onions for a snack.  Low in potassium and phos.  The black olives are bit high in salt, but I always rinse them well, so I know I lose a bit of it.

I've been trying to find a replacement for my usual snack of cheese and crackers.  Olives are a good start, and the onions give me a bit of zing. 


Cheese, cheese, cheese - --- how do I give up cheese?  I'm going to start calling for Gromit and muttering about Wensleydale any minute. . .
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« Reply #26 on: January 25, 2007, 08:24:09 PM »

instead of cheese-how about vienna sausages?  55 PO4-114 K -but uh oh---1095 na (salt)

since I am on a diet (to lose weight) and with the renal thing for my honey-we eat mustard and crackers sometimes,or just a plain mustard sandwhich.!
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« Reply #27 on: January 25, 2007, 11:48:15 PM »

Cheese, cheese, cheese - --- how do I give up cheese?  I'm going to start calling for Gromit and muttering about Wensleydale any minute. . .
I guess Cream Cheese is better than normal Cheese. I guess it has a lot less Phosphate.

I got that out of the Kidney Friendly Comfort Foods cookbook. Epoman has that book as well from the Renal Prom.
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« Reply #28 on: January 26, 2007, 12:08:11 AM »

Watch the eating of carrots. There is a lot of natural sugar in them and it can cause sugar rushes and binge eating.

My little dogs LOVE baby carrots.  They run away with one like it was a steak bone.  The vet says it is okay.  I know.....off topic.

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« Reply #29 on: January 26, 2007, 12:14:17 AM »

I guess Cream Cheese is better than normal Cheese. I guess it has a lot less Phosphate.

I got that out of the Kidney Friendly Comfort Foods cookbook. Epoman has that book as well from the Renal Prom.

I just got a copy of that from my dietitian.  The recipes look pretty good.  I need to get some limes for the Key Lime Cookies. . .and find my zester which wandered off into the bottom of a drawer somewhere.

And cream cheese is fine, in and of itself, but it's not going to fix my craving for a nice sharp, hard cheese to nibble on. . . *sigh*
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« Reply #30 on: January 26, 2007, 12:19:37 AM »

And cream cheese is fine, in and of itself, but it's not going to fix my craving for a nice sharp, hard cheese to nibble on. . . *sigh*
You can have some once in awhile but in moderation and WITH your binders .. as long as your blood work says so :P
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« Reply #31 on: January 26, 2007, 01:13:55 AM »

All my blood work is saying right now is NO NO NO!   ;D
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« Reply #32 on: January 26, 2007, 04:46:05 AM »

When your chemistries say 'yes,' how about a nice tangy feta cheese.  Not the fake ones made in the States (mostly salty--not tangy), but the ones imported from Greece, Israel or France.  It's one of the lowest in PO4. Snack on a couple of ounces with a couple of binders.     ;)
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« Reply #33 on: January 26, 2007, 12:36:25 PM »

When your chemistries say 'yes,' how about a nice tangy feta cheese.  Not the fake ones made in the States (mostly salty--not tangy), but the ones imported from Greece, Israel or France.  It's one of the lowest in PO4. Snack on a couple of ounces with a couple of binders.     ;)
I am curious as well since I LOVE cheeese, which are all the lowest Phosphate cheeses?
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« Reply #34 on: January 26, 2007, 08:43:11 PM »

I am curious as well since I LOVE cheeese, which are all the lowest Phosphate cheeses?

1 oz. Cream Cheese 29 mg
1 oz. Neufchatel Cheese 39 mg
1 oz. Brie               53 mg
1 oz. Soft Goat Cheese  73 mg
1 oz. Feta               96 mg
1 oz. Camembert     98 mg
1 oz. Blue Cheese  110 mg
1 oz. mozzarella, whole milk, low moisture  117 mg

1 tbsp  Grated Parmesan cheese   36mg

If you have a craving for pizza:
DOMINO'S 14" Cheese Pizza, Crunchy Thin Crust
1 slice
Phosphorus, P   117 mg           Potassium, K   72 mg
Even two slices are doable ... just take your binders.

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« Reply #35 on: January 26, 2007, 08:58:47 PM »

I am curious as well since I LOVE cheeese, which are all the lowest Phosphate cheeses?

1 oz. Cream Cheese 29 mg
1 oz. Neufchatel Cheese 39 mg
1 oz. Brie               53 mg
1 oz. Soft Goat Cheese  73 mg
1 oz. Feta               96 mg
1 oz. Camembert     98 mg
1 oz. Blue Cheese  110 mg
1 oz. mozzarella, whole milk, low moisture  117 mg

1 tbsp  Grated Parmesan cheese   36mg

If you have a craving for pizza:
DOMINO'S 14" Cheese Pizza, Crunchy Thin Crust
1 slice
Phosphorus, P   117 mg           Potassium, K   72 mg
Even two slices are doable ... just take your binders.

The Renalist      8)


Thankyou for that information-several of those are excellent for cooking with-I was just leaving the cheese out most of the time.

Jbeany-how about a few tiny slices of leftover roast beef with some bluecheese on a cracker.yummy!!
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« Reply #36 on: January 26, 2007, 09:56:24 PM »

I am curious as well since I LOVE cheeese, which are all the lowest Phosphate cheeses?

1 oz. Cream Cheese 29 mg
1 oz. Neufchatel Cheese 39 mg
1 oz. Brie               53 mg
1 oz. Soft Goat Cheese  73 mg
1 oz. Feta               96 mg
1 oz. Camembert     98 mg
1 oz. Blue Cheese  110 mg
1 oz. mozzarella, whole milk, low moisture  117 mg

1 tbsp  Grated Parmesan cheese   36mg

If you have a craving for pizza:
DOMINO'S 14" Cheese Pizza, Crunchy Thin Crust
1 slice
Phosphorus, P   117 mg           Potassium, K   72 mg
Even two slices are doable ... just take your binders.

The Renalist      8)

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« Reply #37 on: January 26, 2007, 10:12:13 PM »

You're making me hungry, glitter!   ;D

I've been using a sprinkling of Parmesan on a lot of things lately - a little goes a long way for flavor.

I make my own pizza crust from scratch all the time.  That way I can control the toppings and how much sauce I get, but still get to pig out on pizza! 

Thankfully, cream cheese is still on the menu, so I can still do dessert pizza, too.  Ooooh, yummy!

Crust
1 package rapid rise yeast
1 cup warm water
3/4 cup sugar
1/2 tsp cinnamon
2-1/2 cups flour
2 tbsp vegetable oil
dash of salt

Heat oven to 425.  Dissolve yeast in warm, not hot, water.  Feed yeast with sugar.  Add remaining ingredients.  Beat vigorously 20 strokes, or knead with hands.  Let rest 5 minutes before spreading on pan.  Bake until golden brown, approx. 15-20 minutes.

Let cool.  Top with 8 oz block of cream cheese whipped together with 1/2 to 1 cup of powdered sugar.  Top with sliced fresh fruit of your choosing.  Grapes, strawberries, blueberries, and raspberries all hold up well and are reasonably low in potassium.  Keep leftovers in fridge.

Wait, I need to go put cream cheese on my shopping list. . ..
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« Reply #38 on: January 27, 2007, 03:08:37 AM »

Oh wow Oh wow Oh WOW!! I am loving this thread on foods we normally can't have but CAN!! ;)  :2thumbsup; :clap; :beer1;
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« Reply #39 on: January 27, 2007, 09:34:23 AM »

The information is from the USDA National Nutrient Database for Standard Reference:
http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/search/

Seek and Ye shall learn.

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« Reply #40 on: January 27, 2007, 01:45:06 PM »

The information is from the USDA National Nutrient Database for Standard Reference:
http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/search/

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The Renalist.     8)
Oh ya I just found that a few days ago! That is a good link!  :thumbup;
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« Reply #41 on: February 02, 2007, 05:43:24 PM »

The information is from the USDA National Nutrient Database for Standard Reference:
http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/search/

Seek and Ye shall learn.

The Renalist.     8)
Oh ya I just found that a few days ago! That is a good link!  :thumbup;

nifty little site,  :thx; Renalist Zach

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« Reply #42 on: February 19, 2007, 09:56:41 AM »

For some reason I eat what I want when I want but in moderation. I've been doing this for the past 5.9 years and my labs tend to stay in the normal range. My phosphrus is good and once in a while my potassium is up a little but I usually know what I've done. My biggest problem is fluid gain...cause I don't pee. I gain between 2.5 to 4 kilos per session depending on what they call a weekend. Any pointers on fluid gain reduction.  ???
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« Reply #43 on: February 19, 2007, 11:21:29 AM »

Bluedove, have you seen this thread yet?
http://ihatedialysis.com/forum/index.php?topic=2252.0
here, many talk about their fluid gains  :2thumbsup;
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