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« on: November 17, 2009, 10:06:42 PM »

I just noticed this topic in one of Chris's posts.

What's the go? The publicity blurbs and the pharmiscists say that generic meds are "just the same as the brand ones".

Thoughts, please.
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« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2009, 11:23:15 PM »

All of my meds are generic except one. I have heard people say they can't take the generic, but, thankfully, that has not happened to me. Hope others can help you more than I can.
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« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2009, 12:23:08 AM »

exactly the same "stuff" just sold under another brand name..... that is how I understand it. It should be the same.....?

I have not problem and use generic where available.
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« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2009, 12:59:53 AM »

The way it is explained to me that it is chemically the same, but made different to make it chemically the same. Some meds I can take generic such as Norvasc, but the generics come in various sizes for some reason and some vary large. What makes them larger? On the other hand I can not tolerate some generics. With two meds my main staple for close to nine years on name brand and not enough research on how the newly released generics effect tx patients who switch brands after years of the same med, is it worth the risk to switch to find out? If anything, I don't want to be taking a larger pill at the same amount if already taking many meds and experience a whole new set of possible side effects that may take time to settle down if I had return to work.

I I think it comes down to the importance of the medication, research involved in switching medications after many years being on one type, and the fillers used in the generic for the doctors determination to allow switching or not. Some medical boards are in a split decision while others have a thought on another. So far insurance is not clear and will cover either depending where your located. Always consult your doctor though before switching and after sswitching.
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« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2009, 01:51:10 AM »



Because of my many allergies and "drug-intolerance",
my body can tolerate only a certain "Original Brand",
ALWAYS with the same "ingredients".
If there is a slight difference I develop allergies
which have brought me to A&E on many occasions,
before my allergies and "drug-intolerance" were diagnosed.
The antihypertensives I have been taking for years
are always the same "Original Brand" without any change,
I even take them every day at around the same time,
just be on the safe side.
Good luck, Kristina.
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« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2009, 07:58:33 AM »

Generics have the same amount of the active chemical in them as name brand.  They may differ in how the drug gets into the body however if they are not formulated the same as the name brand.

The FDA tests generics so that they are the same as the name brand for  strength, purity safety, and that they are  effective.  The FDA has to approve generics are therapeutically equivalent to the brand name. 

Pharmacies are supposed to keep a list that is updated monthly by the FDA on generics.  They give an "A" if the drug is equivalent to the name brand and a "B" if it is not equivalent to the name brand.

I imagine one could ask to see this list if they are unsure of a generic they are taking.
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« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2009, 09:02:05 AM »

I buy generic medicines over the counter at my local grocery store.

Check the labels.  Take Nytol for an example.  Look at the active ingredients and how much ingredients are in a bottle, then check your local store brand and there active ingredients are the exact same as well as strength.  And you can save plenty of money buy buying the store brand or generic brand.
Some people prefer a NAME even when whats in the bottle or pill is exactly the same.
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« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2009, 09:03:00 AM »

My transplant team absolutely refuses to let anyone do generics for immunosuppresant drugs.  They don't absorb at the same rate as the name brand, so if you absolutely must switch because of your insurance, they start all over with the daily lab work so they can keep the drug levels in your blood where they need to be.
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« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2009, 01:13:53 PM »

The FDA allows generics to have a "variance" of plus or minus a certain % of active drug.  I can't remember the %, its 10% or less though.  This does make a difference in how some people respond to the drug and what side effects they experience.  With some drugs (I would say immunosuppresants are a great example) it is crucial to get the exact amount of the active drug.  In my opinion, if its available through insurance or you can afford it, branded drugs are always best.  I insist on them at the pharmacy, and have my Dr. write DAW (dispense as written) on my scripts. 
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« Reply #9 on: November 18, 2009, 01:44:10 PM »

If your not in the United States, your government may have a different set of rules regarding how a generic is offered, so try a web search on your governments website or ask a knowledgable medical physician.


My transplant team absolutely refuses to let anyone do generics for immunosuppresant drugs.  They don't absorb at the same rate as the name brand, so if you absolutely must switch because of your insurance, they start all over with the daily lab work so they can keep the drug levels in your blood where they need to be.

Jbeany, my center will only allow newly transplanted patients to switch and do all that testing. I don't miss all that blood work done after my transplant andneither does my arm  ;D
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« Reply #10 on: November 18, 2009, 02:03:07 PM »

Thanks all. Hey, Maker, how's the fistula?
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« Reply #11 on: November 18, 2009, 04:14:46 PM »

My daughter takes Synthroid and the generic brand did not work the same for her.  I take generics, but have been told by transplant team that they only want the brand name, because the generic could be slightly different.   I always buy generic OTC drugs ( tylenol, etc) and see no difference. 
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« Reply #12 on: November 18, 2009, 05:40:24 PM »

My daughter takes Synthroid and the generic brand did not work the same for her.  I take generics, but have been told by transplant team that they only want the brand name, because the generic could be slightly different.   I always buy generic OTC drugs ( tylenol, etc) and see no difference.

And if you look, the brand name company makes the generic for the store brand name.
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Neuropathy in legs age 10

Eye impairments and blindness in one eye began in 95, major one during visit to the Indy 500 race of that year
   -glaucoma and surgery for that
     -cataract surgery twice on same eye (2000 - 2002). another one growing in good eye
     - vitrectomy in good eye post tx November 2003, totally blind for 4 months due to complications with meds and infection

Diagnosed with ESRD June 29, 1999
1st Dialysis - July 4, 1999
Last Dialysis - December 2, 2000

Kidney and Pancreas Transplant - December 3, 2000

Cataract Surgery on good eye - June 24, 2009
Knee Surgery 2010
2011/2012 in process of getting a guide dog
Guide Dog Training begins July 2, 2012 in NY
Guide Dog by end of July 2012
Next eye surgery late 2012 or 2013 if I feel like it
Home with Guide dog - July 27, 2012
Knee Surgery #2 - Oct 15, 2012
Eye Surgery - Nov 2012
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« Reply #13 on: November 18, 2009, 06:20:57 PM »

I've always taken the brand name Lanoxin, rather than the generic Digoxin because the absorption rate is different.

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« Reply #14 on: November 18, 2009, 07:22:47 PM »

Thanks all. Hey, Maker, how's the fistula?

Its doing its thrill and brut things  :clap;  I woke up in the middle of the night and my arm was next to my ear, and I could hear it!

But hurts and is still bleeding...guess that happens when you're getting heparin every other day with dialysis. Glad the surgery is over and I can look forward to using it!
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« Reply #15 on: November 19, 2009, 03:00:55 PM »

Good on ya' Maker!
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