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« on: July 27, 2009, 09:23:08 PM »

Has anyone used this dialyzer. I would recommend it. With the right setup I was able to get my URR to 72. It took a whole year of experimenting. 14gauge needles, 550 on the pump and the 250 optiflux
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« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2009, 07:00:41 AM »

How many hours are you?
What about dialysate flow?
Is it reused?

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Treatment: Tue-Thur-Sat   5.5 hours, 2x/wk, 6 hours, 1x/wk
Dialysate flow (Qd)=600;  Blood pump speed(Qb)=315
Fresenius Optiflux-180 filter--without reuse
Fresenius 2008T dialysis machine
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« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2009, 10:49:37 AM »

How many hours are you?
What about dialysate flow?
Is it reused?

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I thought in the US the FDA mandated that dialzyers had to be specifically labeled by the manufacture that they are for reuse and only such ones labeled could be reused and that Fresenius no longer made reuse dialyzers?
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« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2009, 01:07:00 PM »


I thought in the US the FDA mandated that dialzyers had to be specifically labeled by the manufacture that they are for reuse and only such ones labeled could be reused and that Fresenius no longer made reuse dialyzers?


You are correct about the FDA mandate.
And Fresenius dialysis clinics no longer reuse dialyzers.

However, Fresenius does in fact, label some of their dialyzers "Multiple-Use."

Here is a "how to" for reuse of Fresenius dialyzers:
http://www.advancedrenaleducation.com/portals/0/pdfs/Dialyzer%20Reuse%20Proc.pdf

Reminds me of the saying about not to watch the way sausage is made.

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Uninterrupted in-center (self-care) hemodialysis since 1982 -- 34 YEARS on March 3, 2016 !!
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No transplant.  Not yet, anyway.  Only decided to be listed on 11/9/06. Inactive at the moment.  ;)
I make films.

Just the facts: 70.0 kgs. (about 154 lbs.)
Treatment: Tue-Thur-Sat   5.5 hours, 2x/wk, 6 hours, 1x/wk
Dialysate flow (Qd)=600;  Blood pump speed(Qb)=315
Fresenius Optiflux-180 filter--without reuse
Fresenius 2008T dialysis machine
My KDOQI Nutrition (+/ -):  2,450 Calories, 84 grams Protein/day.

"Living a life, not an apology."
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« Reply #4 on: July 28, 2009, 02:55:09 PM »


Reminds me of the saying about not to watch the way sausage is made.

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« Reply #5 on: July 28, 2009, 07:52:03 PM »

I run 4hrs 3 times a week, the filter is not reusable. Im not sure about the d-flow I will ask my nurse and post it.
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« Reply #6 on: July 28, 2009, 09:37:50 PM »

I run 4hrs 3 times a week, the filter is not reusable. Im not sure about the d-flow I will ask my nurse and post it.

Thanks.

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Uninterrupted in-center (self-care) hemodialysis since 1982 -- 34 YEARS on March 3, 2016 !!
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No transplant.  Not yet, anyway.  Only decided to be listed on 11/9/06. Inactive at the moment.  ;)
I make films.

Just the facts: 70.0 kgs. (about 154 lbs.)
Treatment: Tue-Thur-Sat   5.5 hours, 2x/wk, 6 hours, 1x/wk
Dialysate flow (Qd)=600;  Blood pump speed(Qb)=315
Fresenius Optiflux-180 filter--without reuse
Fresenius 2008T dialysis machine
My KDOQI Nutrition (+/ -):  2,450 Calories, 84 grams Protein/day.

"Living a life, not an apology."
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« Reply #7 on: July 29, 2009, 07:03:41 AM »

Baxter claims that their Xenium series dialyzers offer better middle-weight molecule clearance than the Optiflux series. That's important because that translates into good phosphate clearance, meaning you can relax your phosphorus restrictions a bit:

http://www.baxter.com/products/renal/hemodialysis/sub/xenium.pdf
(you need Adobe Acrobat reader)

I'm on the Xenium 210, the top of the line model in that series.  And I've been very satisfied with it.  My phosphorus level has been under EXCELLENT control with it.
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« Reply #8 on: July 29, 2009, 01:01:45 PM »

Baxter claims that their Xenium series dialyzers offer better middle-weight molecule clearance than the Optiflux series. That's important because that translates into good phosphate clearance, meaning you can relax your phosphorus restrictions a bit:

http://www.baxter.com/products/renal/hemodialysis/sub/xenium.pdf
(you need Adobe Acrobat reader)

I'm on the Xenium 210, the top of the line model in that series.  And I've been very satisfied with it.  My phosphorus level has been under EXCELLENT control with it.

It well could be.  Fresenius doesnt seem to like to release their information on the clinical data for their dialzyers.  I have checked their website before and contacted them to no avail on this information.

Maybe someone on here has the clinical data for Fresenius dialyzers?
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« Reply #9 on: July 29, 2009, 04:01:47 PM »


Baxter claims that their Xenium series dialyzers offer better middle-weight molecule clearance than the Optiflux series.


One must note that the Baxter comparison does not include the Optiflux series past Optiflux 200.  As is stated in the title of this post, sumodidit uses the Optiflux 250.

Dialisate flow(QD) is an important factor, as the Baxter charts reveal (500 vs 800) as well as blood pump speed (QB) (400 vs. 500).

Attached is the information on the newest Fresenius dialyzer, Helixone.
If you compare their best filters at 500 QD and 300 QB Baxter seems to be the winner.

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Uninterrupted in-center (self-care) hemodialysis since 1982 -- 34 YEARS on March 3, 2016 !!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
No transplant.  Not yet, anyway.  Only decided to be listed on 11/9/06. Inactive at the moment.  ;)
I make films.

Just the facts: 70.0 kgs. (about 154 lbs.)
Treatment: Tue-Thur-Sat   5.5 hours, 2x/wk, 6 hours, 1x/wk
Dialysate flow (Qd)=600;  Blood pump speed(Qb)=315
Fresenius Optiflux-180 filter--without reuse
Fresenius 2008T dialysis machine
My KDOQI Nutrition (+/ -):  2,450 Calories, 84 grams Protein/day.

"Living a life, not an apology."
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« Reply #10 on: July 30, 2009, 09:46:15 AM »

my d-flow is set at 800
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