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« on: February 16, 2009, 07:28:29 PM »

Assuming that Satan exists:

Would you be willing to make a deal with the Devil, to restore you to perfect health and give you a normal life span, in exchange for your immortal soul?

I've thought a lot about that, as my health has continued to deteriorate.  Right now, I'm sort of iffy about it.

Anyone else willing to make the deal?
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« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2009, 07:54:12 PM »

Absolutely NOT!  There is nothing on this earth that competes with Hell.  Nothing!  A lake of fire and gnashing of teeth.  No Thanks!

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« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2009, 08:18:25 PM »

As flippant answer, having just found out I have to go back to in-center - I'd say yes.

In reality, no.  I'm not really religious, but heck, just in case. . . !
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« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2009, 08:52:54 PM »

Hell no!!!   :rofl;   >:D  In all seriousness, no i would definitely not.
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« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2009, 08:57:34 PM »

after my experience at dialysis today  -- I'd like to yes  "Hell Yes"
but 4 hours three times a week is a lot less time than eternity
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« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2009, 10:29:36 PM »

ESRD is Hell!!!!!
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« Reply #6 on: February 17, 2009, 05:54:26 AM »

I have to say NO as well... And Dan I totally agree ESRD is HELL!
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« Reply #7 on: February 17, 2009, 06:14:54 AM »

I thought I was already in Hell three days a week for eight hours!



How about a deal with God?
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« Reply #8 on: February 17, 2009, 09:10:26 AM »

Absolutely not.
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« Reply #9 on: February 17, 2009, 09:15:17 AM »

Well, let's see now; I don't believe in the devil, I don't believe in hell, and I don't believe in a soul, which is the "traditional" offering to the devil, so where does that leave me?  I ain't got nothing to bargain with.  :rofl;
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« Reply #10 on: February 17, 2009, 09:19:16 AM »

I don't even understand the question and since I never sign anything I don't understand, I'm out.  Actually I'm pretty much in the same boat as Peleroja.
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« Reply #11 on: February 17, 2009, 09:26:01 AM »

How about a deal with God?

Tried the deal with God, Kitkatz, but it didn't work -- or hasn't yet (I guess there's still hope).

I have thought of this exact topic many times.  And, too many times, I've thought that I WOULD make such a deal with the Devil himself for my soul (not Marvin's) for Marvin's return to health and a "normal" life again and a long lifespan.  So, I guess my answer is, "I'd consider it."  Before I make any decision at all, I always weigh all the "pros" and "cons."  The exchange for my eternity in damnation would, I think, be worth trading off for Marvin's chance to be healthy again.  What I've seen Marvin suffer through for 14 years now has been so overwhelming at times that anything -- anything at all (even my soul) -- would be worth sacrificing to stop it.

But, then, the Devil doesn't always trade fairly.  I'm reminded of a short story ("The Devil and Tom Walker"), and it would be just my luck that I'd make the deal, seal my fate in Hell, and the Devil would then come up with some way to wiggle out of his part of the deal (Marvin's health).  But, still, it does sound like something I'd consider...and I do believe in Hell, the Devil, and the existance of my soul!
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« Reply #12 on: February 17, 2009, 02:56:00 PM »

Nope...no way...ain't gonna happen.  Life is what it is....we deal with it as it comes.  If Satan was an easy fella to deal with everyone would be doing it.

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« Reply #13 on: February 17, 2009, 03:01:12 PM »

Wouldn't do it. No thanks.
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« Reply #14 on: February 17, 2009, 03:31:34 PM »

Since the Devil only seems to make deals with talentless goons like Miley Cyrus and Jim Belushi, I'd rather not be included in that club.

Although I do see the Devil every few nights at Dialysis.  He makes the lidocaine miss and I sit in burning pain for three hours.

So as far as hell goes, living it every single day.
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« Reply #15 on: February 17, 2009, 05:27:29 PM »

Nope, not me.  I have worked hard for my place in Heaven!!   I think we have all experienced a little bit of Hell already.
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« Reply #16 on: February 17, 2009, 09:19:34 PM »

I'm not religious but no. Seems to me you couldn't have a "normal life" if you had some kind of soul destroying deal with the devil (as I understand it) so the whole idea doesn't seem to hold water.

In a way this is the same sort of argument as going for an illegal transplant in a 3rd world country.. like seeking a "quick fix" but at what cost?

no thanks. I want to do things the "right" way.

And yes, sometimes enduring dialysis is its own kind of hell... specially when you're cramping and throwing up and STILL have an hour and a half to go on the fracking machine!!!
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« Reply #17 on: February 18, 2009, 01:33:28 AM »

Save me a seat by the fire!
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« Reply #18 on: February 18, 2009, 02:14:35 AM »

This reminds me of the joke where a plumber is sent to hell and the devil gives him some options, but the plumber comes up with options of his own. He makes a deal with the devil and fixes the place up real nice. God calls on the devil stating that there was a mistake and the plumber was sent down in error (after he see's what he's done with the place). Devil say's no mistake here, he's staying here after what he's done with the place.

Think there was a mention of some shady deals or to the like. I'll have to see if I still have the email o the joke.
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« Reply #19 on: February 18, 2009, 07:10:05 AM »

I guess I'm with the majority and would say no as well.  With as many people I know that have suffered from different diseases before they passed, I am willing to accept anything that comes my way and deal with it. Since I do believe in heaven and hell, I would take suffering in this finite life than have to suffer worse in hell for eternity.
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« Reply #20 on: February 18, 2009, 08:37:13 PM »

I just posted in your other thread.  Now I really am worried.  And sadly I don't even think you are joking.  I am not usually this outspoken but I don't think a question like this even deserves a response.  I believe this thread is totally inappropriate and it should be removed.     I don't believe I would be the only one who finds it offensive.
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« Reply #21 on: February 18, 2009, 09:44:15 PM »

Offensive and inappropriate? I think that's a bit harsh, Lucinda.  Rightside's not taking pot-shots at anyone's religious beliefs - this was just about being frustrated with the constraints that come with chronic ill health.
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« Reply #22 on: February 19, 2009, 08:16:38 AM »

This is an age old question that people have been asking for centuries.   "would you make a deal with the devil to--fill in the blank".  This is asked at many discussion groups; whether it is a religious group or not.   It helps one think about the situation and if we would change it.   
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« Reply #23 on: February 19, 2009, 03:14:42 PM »

No.  I'd rather deal with something like kidney disease up front and kinda know what's happening then dealing with the devil and not knowing what he's going to take from me in return. 

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« Reply #24 on: February 19, 2009, 05:13:12 PM »

I definitely would say NO DEAL!!!!    :clap;
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