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« on: November 09, 2009, 07:10:32 PM »

We were advised to take a protien suppliment.  I wonder if anyone here has suggestions to that..  With fluid restriction, it seems tough to get a powder and that to his already limited intake, but if that what it takes so be it.  Any suggestions here???  Thanks  :)
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« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2009, 07:26:41 PM »

Hi Boswife,

I use a product called "BiPro".  I ordered it online, you can check out their website biprousa.com

A friend (also a dietician) recommended it, and I showed it to my renal dietician and she really liked it.  Low Phosphorus, sodium, potassium, calcium...basically its just the protein!  Also low calories and no sugar.

I don't have much of a fluid restriction, so I put it in my coffee or tea and you really don't taste it.  Also great blended with ice and fruit.  I know you can also bake with it, put it in things like oatmeal & pancakes, and mix it with your eggs. 

Hope this helps  :)
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« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2009, 09:04:50 PM »

I was taking one called 'Protifar'.  I got it through my dietician.  You can add it to anything - as long as it's a bit fluid.  So you could put it in his dinner if it was something soft.  I usually put it in my coffee, or into desert if I had any.  I've changed at the moment to a renal drink, but I don't have any fluid restriction at the mo - otherwise I'd be back to the powder.  I hated 'wasting' my fluid on a yucky renal drink!
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« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2009, 01:52:18 PM »


We were advised to take a protien suppliment.  I wonder if anyone here has suggestions to that..  With fluid restriction, it seems tough to get a powder and that to his already limited intake, but if that what it takes so be it.  Any suggestions here???  Thanks  :)


Here are some links to other IHD threads discussing protein:

http://ihatedialysis.com/forum/index.php?topic=11799.msg275136#msg275136

http://ihatedialysis.com/forum/index.php?topic=10191.msg175486#msg175486

http://ihatedialysis.com/forum/index.php?topic=4820.msg71200#msg71200

http://ihatedialysis.com/forum/index.php?topic=1196.msg57594#msg57594

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« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2010, 09:17:03 PM »

wow, some great info here.. Thanks All!  I just now re read ALL of it so as to figure what im doing wrong as his albumin has only stayed the same. (3.2) and i want it up!!  Think i got it figured this time, so we'll see.  Thanks again!!
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« Reply #5 on: March 25, 2010, 08:49:29 PM »

Be aware:

Companies are always changing their formulas, so check the ingredients regularly.
It seems that Muscle Milk powder as well as the Ready to Drink bottle is now over 1,000 mg of potassium in a 17 oz. serving.

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I make films.

Just the facts: 70.0 kgs. (about 154 lbs.)
Treatment: Tue-Thur-Sat   5.5 hours, 2x/wk, 6 hours, 1x/wk
Dialysate flow (Qd)=600;  Blood pump speed(Qb)=315
Fresenius Optiflux-180 filter--without reuse
Fresenius 2008T dialysis machine
My KDOQI Nutrition (+/ -):  2,450 Calories, 84 grams Protein/day.

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« Reply #6 on: March 26, 2010, 07:52:26 PM »

Wow Zach,  I almost got the Muscle Milk just yesterday because of a past writing.  Glad ya woke me up on that awareness..  Just out of curiosity, are you still using the 'designers whey' ?  Or do you know if it's still good one??  Thanks for your help..  so much to learn and you've done a lot of learnen to share  :2thumbsup;
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« Reply #7 on: March 27, 2010, 08:21:57 AM »

There is a protein drink called Nepro made especially for dialysis patients.  It is high in protein and low in Potassium and Phos.  It also keeps me full for a long time.  I take it to dialysis for a snack.  Also have a gulp if I'm hungry.  It does count as fluid.  You can order a six pack to try it 1-800-986-8502.  I order by the case.  It is about $2 for an 8oz bottle.  Cheaper than a Starbucks!
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« Reply #8 on: March 27, 2010, 08:33:24 AM »

thanks rerun!!  now, our problem is, he hates um ALL it seems and with the powder, i can just add the scoop to  2 oz of fluid and be done in a swig...Is the Nupro stuff at all tasty enough to drink enough to get it's benefits???  Thanks!  will love to hear..
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« Reply #9 on: March 27, 2010, 09:07:45 PM »


Just out of curiosity, are you still using the 'designers whey' ?  Or do you know if it's still good one??


Yes, I do still use Designer Whey.

I use the "natural" non-flavored version, and add my own flavoring and sugar.
The flavored versions use an artificial sweetener, which I try to avoid on non-dialysis days.

I'm going to try to make ice cream (or something frozen) with the Designer Whey.
I'll post it in recipes if it works out well.

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Uninterrupted in-center (self-care) hemodialysis since 1982 -- 34 YEARS on March 3, 2016 !!
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No transplant.  Not yet, anyway.  Only decided to be listed on 11/9/06. Inactive at the moment.  ;)
I make films.

Just the facts: 70.0 kgs. (about 154 lbs.)
Treatment: Tue-Thur-Sat   5.5 hours, 2x/wk, 6 hours, 1x/wk
Dialysate flow (Qd)=600;  Blood pump speed(Qb)=315
Fresenius Optiflux-180 filter--without reuse
Fresenius 2008T dialysis machine
My KDOQI Nutrition (+/ -):  2,450 Calories, 84 grams Protein/day.

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« Reply #10 on: March 27, 2010, 11:07:34 PM »

Does anyone know if Body Fortress Whey Protein is ok to make protein shakes with?  I noticed it does have some potassium in it???...?
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« Reply #11 on: March 28, 2010, 07:57:33 PM »

Thanks Zach, and we did the 'natural' too :-)   Will love to hear if the icecream thing works out so be sure to let us know.. AND.......... your chili recepie you gave,,,,oh my goodness!!  a huge hit here!! simply DELICIOUS!!

 
And jdwills83, i'll be anxiously awaiting about the Body Fortress question.. My son uses that but he ihas no "known" issues so couldnt tell ya but will be good to hear an answer.
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We thank God for every day we are blessed to have together.
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« Reply #12 on: June 08, 2010, 10:30:11 AM »

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Uninterrupted in-center (self-care) hemodialysis since 1982 -- 34 YEARS on March 3, 2016 !!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
No transplant.  Not yet, anyway.  Only decided to be listed on 11/9/06. Inactive at the moment.  ;)
I make films.

Just the facts: 70.0 kgs. (about 154 lbs.)
Treatment: Tue-Thur-Sat   5.5 hours, 2x/wk, 6 hours, 1x/wk
Dialysate flow (Qd)=600;  Blood pump speed(Qb)=315
Fresenius Optiflux-180 filter--without reuse
Fresenius 2008T dialysis machine
My KDOQI Nutrition (+/ -):  2,450 Calories, 84 grams Protein/day.

"Living a life, not an apology."
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« Reply #13 on: June 11, 2010, 10:47:21 PM »

I'm glad I found this thread. I use to love meat, but it seems like I have to force it into my diet these days.
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« Reply #14 on: June 12, 2010, 01:59:05 PM »

thanks rerun!!  now, our problem is, he hates um ALL it seems and with the powder, i can just add the scoop to  2 oz of fluid and be done in a swig...Is the Nupro stuff at all tasty enough to drink enough to get it's benefits???  Thanks!  will love to hear..

Well, I like it.  It comes in 8oz bottles and you can order a six-pack just to try it.  I like the Butter Pecan, but they have berry and vanilla.
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