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Dialysis Discussion => Dialysis: Diet and Recipes => Topic started by: kellyt on November 25, 2007, 01:52:56 PM

Title: Phosphorus
Post by: kellyt on November 25, 2007, 01:52:56 PM
When looking at food labels what are the key words to look for (other than the obvious "PHOSPHORUS") that tells you there is large amounts of phosphorus?  I haven't been placed on any food restrictions yet, but I want to start looking at the things I eat.  However, I can't tell!  I see in the ingredients "phosphate something or other", but how do I know how much?  What am I doing wrong?
Title: Re: Phosphorus
Post by: jbeany on November 25, 2007, 11:10:21 PM
Ingredients are listed in order of amount - the ingredient with the highest amount is listed first.  Phosphorous is used as a preservative in many processed foods.  So if anything with phophorus is listed in the middle of the ingredients - it's probably a no-no.  If it's at the very end, you need to limit amounts of the food.  If it's not listed at all - then it's probably safe in larger amounts.   Careful, though - not everything with phos lists it as an ingredient.  It occurs naturally in things like meat and dairy products, and it's not listed on those things at all.
Title: Re: Phosphorus
Post by: Ang on November 26, 2007, 08:06:08 PM
another  to  look  for  is  sodium,usually  at  the  bottom  of  the  list,your only  supposed  to  have  1000mg  a  day. sodium  brings  on  thirst
Title: Re: Phosphorus
Post by: kellyt on November 26, 2007, 08:11:33 PM
Thanks   :)
Title: Re: Phosphorus
Post by: goofynina on November 26, 2007, 08:24:53 PM
It can also be listed as phosporic acid and other ways too, i think anything wish *PHOS* in the name  :urcrazy;
Title: Re: Phosphorus
Post by: Rerun on November 26, 2007, 08:51:59 PM
Take your binders!
Title: Re: Phosphorus
Post by: KT0930 on November 27, 2007, 05:19:22 AM
Anything with whey, which is a milk protein, or any mention of milk. Also nuts and whole grains.
Title: Re: Phosphorus
Post by: angela515 on November 27, 2007, 06:33:40 AM
Take your binders!

 :lol; She isn't on dialysis yet. Or any food restrictions as of yet, she's trying to start watching her intake some and learning how to buy and eat foods that she will eventually need to do on dialysis... if I understand what I read correctly.  :lol;
Title: Re: Phosphorus
Post by: Aldente on November 27, 2007, 06:46:40 AM
Here is one of several on-line guides for phosphorus:

http://www.nutritiondata.com/foods-000121000000000000000.html
Title: Re: Phosphorus
Post by: kellyt on November 27, 2007, 08:57:49 AM
It can also be listed as phosporic acid and other ways too, i think anything wish *PHOS* in the name  :urcrazy;


THAT'S the answer I was looking for!   Thanks so much!  I just didn't know if there were multiple ways to say "phosphorus"!    :thx;

And, yes Angela, I'm not on any restrictions yet.  My neph has told me to reduce and try to stop carbonated drinks (I've reduced them significantly) and a while back he told me to take Tums with my meals.  However, not long ago he gave me another med that is a liquid that I mix in a drink and it says not to take any antacids while taking this, so I haven't been taking my Tums.  Truth be known, I haven't taken them in a long while, but my labs show my phosphorus is in the normal range, as well as my potassium!

Thanks again all of you!!!!
Title: Re: Phosphorus
Post by: boxman55 on November 27, 2007, 04:22:18 PM
as far as carbinated drinks Sprite is OK I think??...Boxman
Title: Re: Phosphorus
Post by: kellyt on November 27, 2007, 05:21:11 PM
 Yes, I've heard Sprite is ok, as well as A&W Rootbeer and Barge's Rootbear.    Right?
Title: Re: Phosphorus
Post by: kitkatz on November 27, 2007, 09:09:00 PM
Barques Root Beer has phosphorous in it, I hear.

A&W is the best in town! MMMMMM!



By the way phosphorous sucks!
Title: Re: Phosphorus
Post by: KT0930 on November 28, 2007, 04:45:34 AM
I was told as long as the soda is clear and/or fruit flavored it's ok.
Title: Re: Phosphorus
Post by: KR Cincy on November 28, 2007, 08:58:59 AM
Barq's is the only rootbeer with caffeine that I'm aware of, and I've heard it also has some phosphorus...go with A&W or Mug.
Title: Re: Phosphorus
Post by: kellyt on November 28, 2007, 12:31:38 PM
Yes, Mug - sorry!  I usually just by A&W diet.  It's really good!
Title: Re: Phosphorus
Post by: skyedogrocks on December 17, 2007, 09:31:24 AM
Also remember to stay away from Gatorade and Vault.  They have loads of potassium and phospherus.

I love that they have the small 8 oz cans of diet A&W, 7-up, diet gingerale, etc.  It helps with Rob's liquid restriction, plus he's a diabetic.
Title: Re: Phosphorus
Post by: goofynina on December 17, 2007, 01:52:14 PM
Also remember to stay away from Gatorade and Vault.  They have loads of potassium and phospherus.

I love that they have the small 8 oz cans of diet A&W, 7-up, diet gingerale, etc.  It helps with Rob's liquid restriction, plus he's a diabetic.

Hi Skye,  May i please ask where you found the small cans of those you listed, especially the diet gingerale,  i would love to have some  :cuddle; 
Title: Re: Phosphorus
Post by: willieandwinnie on December 17, 2007, 02:52:41 PM
goofynina,

I have found the small cans of soda at WalMart. Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Phosphorus
Post by: goofynina on December 17, 2007, 03:35:42 PM
goofynina,

I have found the small cans of soda at WalMart. Hope this helps.


Thank you Willieandwinnie, i have seen the small cans at WalMart, just not in A&W or Diet GingerAle,  i will make sure to look again next time i am there ;)  :2thumbsup;
Title: Re: Phosphorus
Post by: BigSky on December 17, 2007, 04:40:41 PM
Barq's regular and diet does not have phosphorus.

List of what Coca Cola brands have in them from Coke.

http://www.thecoca-colacompany.com/mail/goodanswer/soft_drink_nutrition.pdf
Title: Re: Phosphorus
Post by: boxman55 on December 17, 2007, 05:01:00 PM
Thanks Big Sky that is very useful...Boxman
Title: Re: Phosphorus
Post by: goofynina on December 17, 2007, 05:02:06 PM
There are some sodas listed that i never even heard of  :urcrazy;  I wonder if my store sells them and i am just not noticing them, i am sure going to start hunting them down though :)
Title: Re: Phosphorus
Post by: skyedogrocks on December 17, 2007, 05:44:28 PM
Also remember to stay away from Gatorade and Vault.  They have loads of potassium and phospherus.

I love that they have the small 8 oz cans of diet A&W, 7-up, diet gingerale, etc.  It helps with Rob's liquid restriction, plus he's a diabetic.

Hi Skye,  May i please ask where you found the small cans of those you listed, especially the diet gingerale,  i would love to have some  :cuddle; 

I buy it at a local grocery store chain here in Northern Mass/Southern NH. called Market Basket. 
Title: Re: Phosphorus
Post by: BigSky on December 17, 2007, 06:48:38 PM
This is the site with the complete list of most of Coke's product information.

http://www.thecoca-colacompany.com/us_nutrition.html
Title: Re: Phosphorus
Post by: pdpatty on December 26, 2007, 09:41:56 AM
You mentioned 7-up . Have you read the ingredients of the `new' all natural 7-up?

It contains potassium citrate! If you have a high potassium level,perhaps it would be best to avoid this.

Also the new foods with lower sodium that use the lower sodium sea salt in them. This salt contains 41% potassium. Campbells tomato soup now contains 10% of a normal persons daily requirement of potassium.
Title: Re: Phosphorus
Post by: bolta72 on December 26, 2007, 01:21:46 PM
Boy do I miss my v8, coke, pepsi, milk, bud, coors, milk shakes. :banghead;
Title: Re: Phosphorus
Post by: angela515 on December 27, 2007, 08:55:32 PM
You can have some once in awhile.. pour a little ina glass an enjoy. Why deprive yourself of things you love 24/7/365?
Title: Re: Phosphorus
Post by: bolta72 on December 28, 2007, 05:01:06 AM
Yep, you are right, I will do that. :popcorn; :wine;
Title: Re: Phosphorus
Post by: del on December 28, 2007, 06:13:29 AM
Watch baked goods for phosphorus.  Baking powder is very high in phosporus. Dietician told us its better to bake yourself rather than buy from a bakery or packaged cookies. I always reduce the amount of baking powder in a recipe by about half. I never add the salt that a recipe for cookies or muffins says to put in.
Title: Re: Phosphorus
Post by: bolta72 on December 28, 2007, 01:56:27 PM
I make my own cornbread and pancakes and do ok for awhile, then I slip and start getting the store bought. One week I was good at 4.5, than cheated and it rose to 7.0. I have to get it under control a bit more but it sure is hard.