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Title: Exercise
Post by: MooseMom on January 30, 2007, 09:38:34 AM
Have any of you had discussions with your doctor about exercise?  Do any of you have a specific exercise program that helps to improve your general health?  Or do you just try to keep as physically active as you can?

Thank you.
Title: Re: Exercise
Post by: Amanda From OZ on January 30, 2007, 06:30:14 PM
Everyone is different and it all depends on your fitness level. My doctor thinks it great the amount of exercise i do, but the only issue is that the more exercises you do the higher your urea will be.

I do ALOT of exercise. I train at the gym at least 5 day a week , i usually go straight after dialysis to the gym and usually spend 3 hrs there, i do weights and cardio with my own personal trainer (boyfriend)  ;D

Everyone is very different, and i wouldn't feel bad if you are too tired to do much, my sister and father could not do any exercise while they were on dialysis.

Just try walking slowly then build it up from there.

Good luck  :thumbup;
Title: Re: Exercise
Post by: Rerun on January 30, 2007, 06:36:47 PM
Ummmmm unlike Amanda... I don't have a regular exercise program.  I have two dogs that want to go for a walk all the time and they get me out about every other day.  My doctor wants me to join a water aerobics class!  Yeah Right!   :-\
Title: Re: Exercise
Post by: angela515 on January 30, 2007, 06:42:52 PM
I think on dialysis its basically up to how much you feel like doing. My dr used to tell me to do what I could and eventually I could do more... Now after transplant im trying to build up my strength again and such I started on he treadmill today 10 mins no incline 1mph, not much but somgthing for starters. Good luck
Title: Re: Exercise
Post by: goofynina on January 30, 2007, 09:21:18 PM
Exercise?? what the hell is exercise?? :P  ::)  ;)
Title: Re: Exercise
Post by: mrhecht on January 30, 2007, 09:33:30 PM
I do ALOT of exercise. I train at the gym at least 5 day a week , i usually go straight after dialysis to the gym and usually spend 3 hrs there, i do weights and cardio with my own personal trainer (boyfriend) 

Wow! I exercise by walking but I can't imagine being able to go straight from dialysis???? I have to admit that I used to feel much better after dialysis than I do now after all these years (which is another reason I'm finally on "the list"), but I am fascinated that you are able to exercise right after dialysis. How long have you been on?
Title: Re: Exercise
Post by: Amanda From OZ on January 30, 2007, 09:43:06 PM
I have been on dialysis for nearly 3 years. Yes i know even my doctors are amazed. Everyone always tells me i do to much. But it makes me feel better about  myself.

Everyone handles dialysis differently. There is no way i would of been able to do this when i first started dialysis as my body was still getting use to the process.

My mother thinks I'm "nuts" ha ha sometimes i even go on the treadmill at midnight if i was unable to go to the gym because i was out all day. Its not about being a fitness freak, i don't run......r i take my time and just do as much as i can but i make sure i fit in thsoe days
Title: Re: Exercise
Post by: tamara on January 31, 2007, 01:43:18 AM
unlike Amanda... I don't have a regular exercise program.  I have two dogs that want to go for a walk all the time and they get me out about every other day.  My doctor wants me to join a water aerobics class!  Yeah Right!   :-\

Hey guess where I just come from...................................Water Aerobics!  :clap;

It's easy, and you just don't realize what you do in the water.
Title: Re: Exercise
Post by: MooseMom on January 31, 2007, 09:22:52 AM
I used to go to the gym most days to work out.  When I moved back to the US, I continued exercising.  I'm not a real exercise queen or anything; I just like moving.  Then, when I went to the neph and he sandbagged me with the news that my renal function was only 30% and that I should go through the pre-transplant program, I was so shocked.  That's when he put me on all of these meds.  I honestly think that the meds affect me more than the actual fsgs.  My numbers have all improved, but I am more tired.  I walk every day, and I swim during the summer.

Sometimes I suspect that my fatigue is more psychological than physical.  I "think tired".  There is no real reason why I should have less energy than I did before I started my meds unless it is the meds themselves that cause fatigue.  But if my numbers are so much better, then I should be healthier, and so I should have more energy, right?

I'm not on dialysis yet, but I was curious to see how others were advised about exercise.
Title: Re: Exercise
Post by: BigSky on January 31, 2007, 09:53:28 AM
Here are a few of the threads on exercise you might want to check out MooseMom

http://ihatedialysis.com/forum/index.php?topic=148.0

http://ihatedialysis.com/forum/index.php?topic=1961.0

http://ihatedialysis.com/forum/index.php?topic=1773.0

http://ihatedialysis.com/forum/index.php?topic=415.0
Title: Re: Exercise
Post by: Andy55 on January 31, 2007, 10:18:05 PM
Andy here.....my situation is similar to Moosemom's. My kidney function is closer to 20%, not yet on dialysis. Up until 6 months ago fairly active, scuba, etc. Now incredibly fatigued all the time with flank pain (PKD)...I know meds make me tired...but currently crazy tired. Forget diving, too short of breath. I still need to work...but it is getting very hard....any advice from the group? Is it better to press on with exercise and hope for an energy breakthrough that will buy time (so I can work)...I am not sure how to even think about applying for disability (or even if I should at this point)..... :)


Title: Re: Exercise
Post by: jbeany on January 31, 2007, 10:53:57 PM
Andy, what are your hemoglobin levels?  Are you on epo shots already?  What you are describing sounds like anemia symptoms.  You can start taking epo before you get on dialysis.  I started the epo shots 10 years before I needed to start dialysis.
Title: Re: Exercise
Post by: MooseMom on February 01, 2007, 11:48:42 AM
Big Sky, thanks for those links.  Very informative!

I have a workout bench with weights here at home (which I should use more often), but my main mode of exercise is walking.  I walk at least 1 1/4 mile every day, even on days like today when the windchill factor makes it feel well below 0 degrees.  There is something about the fresh air that is really beneficial to me.

While I was walking the other day, I was thinking about my emotional state and CKD.  I've tried all kinds of coping mechanisms; I've tried counselling, hypnotherapy and biofeedback.  I have an acquaintance who is a dialysis nurse, and she has told me that many of her patients are on anti-depressants.  I didn't want to go that route mainly because I already take so many meds, and I was concerned about drug interactions becoming an issue, so that's about the only thing I didn't try.   But I realized that the one thing that helped me the most was getting outside and walking.  I've read posts in the other threads from people who were saying the same thing.

Title: Re: Exercise
Post by: angela515 on February 01, 2007, 11:52:00 AM
I love walking. However I do mine on a treadmill during the winter. Too much snow on the ground and I can't stand the cold weather. Right now it's 12 degrees and very windy. Tomorrow is supposed to be alot colder, ugh! LOl Cmon summer!  ;D
Title: Re: Exercise
Post by: MooseMom on February 01, 2007, 01:33:20 PM
I love walking. However I do mine on a treadmill during the winter. Too much snow on the ground and I can't stand the cold weather. Right now it's 12 degrees and very windy. Tomorrow is supposed to be alot colder, ugh! LOl Cmon summer! ;D

Oh, I know!  It's just going to get colder and colder as the days go by for the foreseeable future.  I donned my outdoor gear and even put a ski mask on, but my glasses don't fit on my face when I have the mask on, plus, it squeezed my nose and makes it hard for me to breath.  I end up out of breath and dizzy from not being able to see!  I lasted only 10 minutes today.  I don't have a treadmill or anything like that, so perhaps I'll just have to go up and down the stairs a lot today.

I usually walk in all weathers, and I don't mind the cold, but this is a bit much, really.
Title: Re: Exercise
Post by: Sluff on February 01, 2007, 01:42:24 PM
Andy here.....my situation is similar to Moosemom's. My kidney function is closer to 20%, not yet on dialysis. Up until 6 months ago fairly active, scuba, etc. Now incredibly fatigued all the time with flank pain (PKD)...I know meds make me tired...but currently crazy tired. Forget diving, too short of breath. I still need to work...but it is getting very hard....any advice from the group? Is it better to press on with exercise and hope for an energy breakthrough that will buy time (so I can work)...I am not sure how to even think about applying for disability (or even if I should at this point)..... :)


I totally understand the fatique, I just try to keep pushing forward. I don't think you can get disability until you go on dialysis. At least in the State of Wisconsin thats the way it is.
 
Here are some links where this has been discussed before.

  http://ihatedialysis.com/forum/index.php?topic=586.0

 http://ihatedialysis.com/forum/index.php?topic=1607.0
                   
 http://ihatedialysis.com/forum/index.php?topic=257.0






Title: Re: Exercise
Post by: MooseMom on February 01, 2007, 02:29:16 PM
Andy, sometimes it is hard to know when to just press on and when to listen to your body if it tells you to "slow down".  Perhaps what you need is a different kind of exercise if what you had done in the past is now virtually impossible because of fatigue.  The right kind of exercise is supposed to energize you.

Has anyone ever spoken to a personal trainer?  It has occurred to me that it would be great to find someone who was licenced in such a way that he/she could look at my labs, look at my meds, talk to me about what I want and could then create a personalized exercise program.  Maybe someone who works in physical therapy or rehab as opposed to the usual kind of personal trainer.  Or is that a really stupid idea?  I don't even know if such a person exists!
Title: Re: Exercise
Post by: Andy55 on February 01, 2007, 04:03:41 PM
Thanks Sluff for those disability links/threads....I think it is the same in Indiana...must be on D to get SS bennies....I do have a disability policy with my employer (60%) of pay...but it prob mirrors the SS criteria...anyway I want to work as long as possible...MooseMom may have something about doing a different kind of exercise...I think that's my next step.....do you think the 84 year old gentleman in St Louis who just won $254M is in the mood to adopt another kid (me!)?
Title: Re: Exercise
Post by: MooseMom on February 02, 2007, 08:49:34 AM
It's a really hard thing to have to admit to yourself that your body is not as fit as before and that past activities may no longer be right for you.  Meds, dialysis and just plain getting older makes us rethink our exercise options.  But that doesn't have to be a bad thing.  The whole idea is to work WITH your body, not against it.
Title: Re: Exercise
Post by: nextnoel on February 02, 2007, 09:07:22 AM
.....do you think the 84 year old gentleman in St Louis who just won $254M is in the mood to adopt another kid (me!)?
I hadn't heard about this guy.  Never mind adoption, Is he married? ::)
Title: Re: Exercise
Post by: Zach on February 02, 2007, 09:09:44 AM
Amanda, can you give us your exercise routine?


Here's an article about exercising during treatment:

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/05/060515100138.htm
Title: Re: Exercise
Post by: BigSky on February 02, 2007, 11:45:18 AM
As to exercise capacity I read a study that said dialysis patients only need to achieve a heart rate of 60% of MHR to achieve cardio benefits.  MHR being 220-age
Title: Re: Exercise
Post by: MooseMom on February 02, 2007, 12:59:51 PM
I just love this whole idea of exercising while on dialysis!  After reading the article, it makes sense, doesn't it!  Have any of you been given the opportunity to exercise while on the machine? 
Title: Re: Exercise
Post by: jbeany on February 02, 2007, 03:17:18 PM
My unit has a fit if you even want to put your feet down and sit up right.  I'm not sure how the exercise concept would go over!
Title: Re: Exercise
Post by: BigSky on February 02, 2007, 03:20:43 PM
I just love this whole idea of exercising while on dialysis!  After reading the article, it makes sense, doesn't it!  Have any of you been given the opportunity to exercise while on the machine? 

Not here.  But I have found if I walk/jog for half and hour right before getting ready to go to dialysis the fluid seems to pull a lot easier and I do not feel washed out so much.
Title: Re: Exercise
Post by: MooseMom on February 03, 2007, 08:00:27 AM
My unit has a fit if you even want to put your feet down and sit up right.  I'm not sure how the exercise concept would go over!

Yeah, I bet most units, if not all of them, want to maintain total control over the patients, and I also bet that the staff don't want to have to expend any extra time and energy to set up exercise machines. 
I just love this whole idea of exercising while on dialysis! After reading the article, it makes sense, doesn't it! Have any of you been given the opportunity to exercise while on the machine?

Not here. But I have found if I walk/jog for half and hour right before getting ready to go to dialysis the fluid seems to pull a lot easier and I do not feel washed out so much.

That's an excellent idea!  I wonder how many dialysis patients are told this sort of thing?
Title: Re: Exercise
Post by: BigSky on February 04, 2007, 10:38:26 AM


That's an excellent idea!  I wonder how many dialysis patients are told this sort of thing?

I doubt many if any at all.

To me there seems to be a great deal of disconnect in this area of treatment in patients and information given to us by doctors in this area.
Title: Re: Exercise
Post by: Amanda From OZ on February 05, 2007, 03:11:11 PM
Amanda, can you give us your exercise routine?


OK well first of all my biggest concern when i started training was for my fistula. My surgeon always told me not to lift anything heavy and not to place to much pressure on my arm, I'm not to sure what everyone Else's doctor thought about that. but anyhow i started off just doing cardio while i was waiting for my fistula to get stronger, and then starting building up my strenth.
Routine.
Cardio Sessions- 20 mins on treadmill, 15 minutes stepper, 20 minutes bike.
I usually go to the gym 5 days a week, my boyfriend says its important not to train to many body parts at a time, so its important to divide it equally within the week.

Monday - Cardio, Weights training (back, Lower back)
Tuesday - Cardio, Weight training (Chest, Biceps)
Thursday - Cardio,  Weight Training (Shoulders, Triceps)
Saturday - Cardio, weight Training (legs)
Sunday - Cardio, (ABS)

I usually do 3 Sets And 15 Reps .

Now please don't get confused i am no body builder lol i do weights fairly light dependsing on the exercise, and this routine is only on a good day, i also have my very bad day were i will not do as much.

Hope it helps.

Title: Re: Exercise
Post by: tamara on February 05, 2007, 04:28:11 PM
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Title: Re: Exercise
Post by: tamara on February 05, 2007, 06:06:55 PM
.....do you think the 84 year old gentleman in St Louis who just won $254M is in the mood to adopt another kid (me!)?
I hadn't heard about this guy.  Never mind adoption, Is he married? ::)


HEADLINE IN TODAYS PAPER:

Nextnoel Becomes Newest Anna Nicole Smith!             :rofl;
Title: Re: Exercise
Post by: goofynina on February 05, 2007, 06:55:34 PM
Amanda, can you give us your exercise routine?


OK well first of all my biggest concern when i started training was for my fistula. My surgeon always told me not to lift anything heavy and not to place to much pressure on my arm, I'm not to sure what everyone Else's doctor thought about that. but anyhow i started off just doing cardio while i was waiting for my fistula to get stronger, and then starting building up my strenth.
Routine.
Cardio Sessions- 20 mins on treadmill, 15 minutes stepper, 20 minutes bike.
I usually go to the gym 5 days a week, my boyfriend says its important not to train to many body parts at a time, so its important to divide it equally within the week.

Monday - Cardio, Weights training (back, Lower back)
Tuesday - Cardio, Weight training (Chest, Biceps)
Thursday - Cardio,  Weight Training (Shoulders, Triceps)
Saturday - Cardio, weight Training (legs)
Sunday - Cardio, (ABS)

I usually do 3 Sets And 15 Reps .

Now please don't get confused i am no body builder lol i do weights fairly light dependsing on the exercise, and this routine is only on a good day, i also have my very bad day were i will not do as much.

Hope it helps.



Well, i broke sweat just reading this :P  my workout for the day is done ;)
Title: Re: Exercise
Post by: Sluff on February 05, 2007, 06:58:16 PM
Amanda, can you give us your exercise routine?


OK well first of all my biggest concern when i started training was for my fistula. My surgeon always told me not to lift anything heavy and not to place to much pressure on my arm, I'm not to sure what everyone Else's doctor thought about that. but anyhow i started off just doing cardio while i was waiting for my fistula to get stronger, and then starting building up my strenth.
Routine.
Cardio Sessions- 20 mins on treadmill, 15 minutes stepper, 20 minutes bike.
I usually go to the gym 5 days a week, my boyfriend says its important not to train to many body parts at a time, so its important to divide it equally within the week.

Monday - Cardio, Weights training (back, Lower back)
Tuesday - Cardio, Weight training (Chest, Biceps)
Thursday - Cardio,  Weight Training (Shoulders, Triceps)
Saturday - Cardio, weight Training (legs)
Sunday - Cardio, (ABS)

I usually do 3 Sets And 15 Reps .

Now please don't get confused i am no body builder lol i do weights fairly light dependsing on the exercise, and this routine is only on a good day, i also have my very bad day were i will not do as much.

Hope it helps.



Well, i broke sweat just reading this :P  my workout for the day is done ;)


I'm proud of you Goodynina cause I only got through about half way and have to go get a nap.
Title: Re: Exercise
Post by: goofynina on February 05, 2007, 07:00:50 PM
 :rofl; LMFFAO @ Sluff  :rofl; 
Title: Re: Exercise
Post by: Zach on February 05, 2007, 07:47:43 PM

Cardio Sessions- 20 mins on treadmill, 15 minutes stepper, 20 minutes bike.


Do you do each cardio exercise every day (55 minutes total) or one type per day (15 or 20 minute)?  Thanks Amanda for taking the time to write your exercise routine.

I'm sorry there's always "noise" that seems to follow such important exercise information.      :(
Title: Re: Exercise
Post by: goofynina on February 05, 2007, 09:14:41 PM
I'm sorry there's always "noise" that seems to follow such important exercise information.      :(

Zach, may i ask what "noise" are you referring to?  ???
Title: Re: Exercise
Post by: BigSky on February 06, 2007, 04:15:24 AM
Amanda, can you give us your exercise routine?


OK well first of all my biggest concern when i started training was for my fistula. My surgeon always told me not to lift anything heavy and not to place to much pressure on my arm, I'm not to sure what everyone Else's doctor thought about that. but anyhow i started off just doing cardio while i was waiting for my fistula to get stronger, and then starting building up my strenth.
Routine.
Cardio Sessions- 20 mins on treadmill, 15 minutes stepper, 20 minutes bike.
I usually go to the gym 5 days a week, my boyfriend says its important not to train to many body parts at a time, so its important to divide it equally within the week.

Monday - Cardio, Weights training (back, Lower back)
Tuesday - Cardio, Weight training (Chest, Biceps)
Thursday - Cardio,  Weight Training (Shoulders, Triceps)
Saturday - Cardio, weight Training (legs)
Sunday - Cardio, (ABS)

I usually do 3 Sets And 15 Reps .

Now please don't get confused i am no body builder lol i do weights fairly light dependsing on the exercise, and this routine is only on a good day, i also have my very bad day were i will not do as much.

Hope it helps.

If you dont mind answering.

How far do you get in terms of miles, kilometers when you do treadmill work and exercise bike work?  That is if you measure such stuff.

Just want to compare to what I do to see if maybe I should be doing more.

Since you also exercise Zach maybe you could give an idea of what you try to do in such terms also if you measure it in that way.
Title: Re: Exercise
Post by: Amanda From OZ on February 06, 2007, 04:53:38 AM
Quote
Do you do each Cardiod exercise every day (55 minutes total) or one type per day (15 or 20 minute)? 

Yes i try to do the 55 minutes. (so i can then by pass MC Donald's.... cheeseburgers yummmmmm)  ;D

Amanda, can you give us your exercise routine?


OK well first of all my biggest concern when i started training was for my fistula. My surgeon always told me not to lift anything heavy and not to place to much pressure on my arm, I'm not to sure what everyone Else's doctor thought about that. but anyhow i started off just doing Cardiod while i was waiting for my fistula to get stronger, and then starting building up my strength.
Routine.
Cardio Sessions- 20 mins on treadmill, 15 minutes stepper, 20 minutes bike.
I usually go to the gym 5 days a week, my boyfriend says its important not to train to many body parts at a time, so its important to divide it equally within the week.

Monday - Cardio, Weights training (back, Lower back)
Tuesday - Cardio, Weight training (Chest, Biceps)
Thursday - Cardio, Weight Training (Shoulders, Triceps)
Saturday - Cardio, weight Training (legs)
Sunday - Cardio, (ABS)

I usually do 3 Sets And 15 Reps .

Now please don't get confused i am no body builder lol i do weights fairly light dependsing on the exercise, and this routine is only on a good day, i also have my very bad day were i will not do as much.

Hope it helps.

If you don't mind answering.

How far do you get in terms of miles, kilometers when you do treadmill work and exercise bike work? That is if you measure such stuff.

Just want to compare to what I do to see if maybe I should be doing more.

Since you also exercise Zach maybe you could give an idea of what you try to do in such terms also if you measure it in that way.

hmmm well in miles and stuff like that i am not to sure. i can pay More attention to the "proper" terminology when i go to the gym next.

On the stepper i do level 6
and treadmill i go about 6.5 speed......... sorry that was probably very confusing   :-\ i will get the details tomorrow.





EDITED: Fixed Quote Tag Error - Sluff, Moderator






Title: Re: Exercise
Post by: Zach on February 06, 2007, 06:00:35 AM
Since you also exercise Zach maybe you could give an idea of what you try to do in such terms also if you measure it in that way.

I ride a 20 year-old Tunturi (Ergometer) Stationary Bike 45 minutes x 3 days a week, on my dialysis days, before treatment.  I don't count the "distance" but rather the time since most studies I've read refer to time as critical.  I first started with 10 minutes and added more time each week till I got to 45 minutes.

I've slowly increased the resistance over the last year from 10 Nm to 15 Nm, which is about 70 watts/60 rpm to 100 watts/60 rpm. 

I do weight-resistance (takes about 45 minutes, too) x 3 days a week, on my non-dialysis days.  Right now I'm focused on shoulder rehab from an injury, so each exercise I do 12 reps and 3 sets: bicep curls, seated cable rows, cable shoulder internal rotation, rear delt row, and cable tricep extension.

As with Amanda, I use lighter weights ... 10 lbs to 25 lbs on average.
I always say, "leave your ego at the gym door."          ;)
Title: Re: Exercise
Post by: Amanda From OZ on February 06, 2007, 06:06:25 AM
Great routine Zach.... much more technical terminology then me  ;D
Title: Re: Exercise
Post by: angela515 on February 06, 2007, 06:07:07 AM
WOw Amanda, you make me wanna achieve that kind of exercise routine! That's amazing, and I applaude you. Right now, since i'm still in the process of healing, I only do 10 minutes on the treadmill at 0 incline, and 1mph as my speed... LOL, i'm sure an 80yr old could do that but I need to take it slowly until I am fully healed. Once healed though... I hope to increase incline every 2-3 weeks, and speed each week or 2... And time each week. I hope to achieve your levels within the next 6 months, your my hero!!  :clap;
Title: Re: Exercise
Post by: Sluff on February 06, 2007, 06:51:37 AM
I'm sorry there's always "noise" that seems to follow such important exercise information.      :(

Zach, may i ask what "noise" are you referring to?  ???


Goofynina I think Zach is referring to the gasping for air that usually happens after I try to exercise. That gets NOISY.

Zach you don't have to apologize for my noise.
Title: Re: Exercise
Post by: BigSky on February 06, 2007, 11:44:18 AM
I ride a 20 year-old Tunturi (Ergometer) Stationary Bike 45 minutes x 3 days a week, on my dialysis days, before treatment.  I don't count the "distance" but rather the time since most studies I've read refer to time as critical.  I first started with 10 minutes and added more time each week till I got to 45 minutes.

I was wondering distance just to see what intensity level would be for that time period.

I usually do the treadmill 4 times a week for 30 minutes jog/walk, 30 minutes on the elliptical 3 times a week  moderate intensity, and lift weights 3 days of the week of which I vary weeks of one lifting heavy and then the next do lighter weights for reps. Also on dialysis days I do the treadmill but a much lower intensity. 

Title: Re: Exercise
Post by: Amanda From OZ on February 06, 2007, 03:16:29 PM
WOw Amanda, you make me wanna achieve that kind of exercise routine! That's amazing, and I applaude you. Right now, since i'm still in the process of healing, I only do 10 minutes on the treadmill at 0 incline, and 1mph as my speed... LOL, i'm sure an 80yr old could do that but I need to take it slowly until I am fully healed. Once healed though... I hope to increase incline every 2-3 weeks, and speed each week or 2... And time each week. I hope to achieve your levels within the next 6 months, your my hero!!  :clap;

Thanks angela. You have to start off slowly, you have been through a huge operation. You will get there with no  problem.

Thanks all,  for the positive comments.
Title: Re: Exercise
Post by: kitkatz on February 06, 2007, 03:32:09 PM
I was gasping for air just reading all of this exercise stuff. I'm tired. I think I need a nap.

SNORE!

Title: Re: Exercise
Post by: Amanda From OZ on February 06, 2007, 03:40:35 PM
ha ha its OK i feel tired thinking about it also but i try to push myself!! today i am not feeling very motivated because my HB has dropped, i might take it easy this week. It makes me feel depressed when i don't go.
Title: Re: Exercise
Post by: Sluff on February 06, 2007, 04:33:11 PM
ha ha its OK i feel tired thinking about it also but i try to push myself!! today i am not feeling very motivated because my HB has dropped, i might take it easy this week. It makes me feel depressed when i don't go.



All joking aside, keep up the good work Amanda and Zach and anyone else has the self motivation to exercise, it's just not for me I'm too exhausted after work.
Title: Re: Exercise
Post by: kitkatz on February 06, 2007, 05:49:47 PM
Me too. Work exhausts me. And then only having Tuesday and Thursdays to get out and take care of life things, I am tired all of the time.  Hmmmmm...Maybe exercising would be a good thing....Nahhh!
Title: Re: Exercise
Post by: BigSky on February 09, 2007, 10:28:08 AM
just ran 3 miles and thought I was doing pretty good,  Seems doing much more is possible.


Here is someone who was the first dialysis patient to complete a  Ironman triathlon.

2.4 miles swim, 112 mile bike ride and 26.2 mile run.

http://www.shadireland.com/


Here is a link to some of his training logs dated in 2005.

Pretty impressive I have to say for a dialysis patient.

http://www.ironshad.com/training.html


Title: Re: Exercise
Post by: angela515 on February 09, 2007, 01:40:07 PM
We must remember everyone's energy level is different....ad everyones exercise routine should start off differently.

I like to use myself as an example, b/c I regret doing it.

For the 2 /2 yrs on dialysis I used being on dialysis as my excuse why I couldn't do this or do that, so what did I mostly do? Sit down and watch TV. Sure I had to still take care of my kids, but as they started going to school, they dint get home till 4pm, and bedtime is 8pm.. so only 4 hours, and most of the time they are content playing with each other... so I still would watch TV when I got the chance. What did this do to me? Made me VERY lazy... and very weak, and no energy level at all. Now I must start like I'm a newborn and rebuild energy, strength and all of that... and I think the 2 12 yrs sitting around has impacted my healing time and im now suffering from that and my energy level is so low...

My advice... do what you can, wether its walking around your house for 5-10 minutes at a time 3 or 4 times a day.. do what you can and make sure you do it, and gradually build it up. Don't be like me.
Title: Re: Exercise
Post by: twirl on July 04, 2008, 06:43:27 PM
I adore our BBC or BBBC station from England
You are what you Eat- shows a lot of meals people eat and it seems like they always eat pork and beans with fired eggs-- looks good to me--- but is it true---- and they eat a lot of fish and chips and something like potato chips----- and a lot of Chinese----- sounds good to me

but are pork and beans eaten with fried eggs?   and this lady on the show says to use a little jogger mat 20 before breakfast and 20 minutes before dinner  ( 40/ day)  do you think that will help
the people lose weight after 8 weeks of no meat, drinks and sugar and I wonder if they do a follow up to see if the habits were continued


love their animal shows also
Title: Re: Exercise
Post by: angela515 on July 14, 2008, 07:49:30 PM
Where are you from twirl?

If I understood your post right you don't know what potato chips are...and no... pork and beans are not eaten with fried eggs.
Title: Re: Exercise
Post by: twirl on July 14, 2008, 08:51:49 PM

texas is my home
I did not realize you where from England
but on the British staion on You Are What You Eat it shows plates with fried eggs and pork and beans on the same plate
do you eat that in England
I mean, it looks good to me----- I'd eat it
I do know what potato chips are---- but they look different------ crisps?
they only choose people who eat unhealthy  and they all have pork and beans with fried eggs

Title: Re: Exercise
Post by: jbeany on July 15, 2008, 07:31:55 PM
I've seen that show.  They follow them around for a week, recording what they ate - then reproduce the week's worth of meals and show it to them all at once.  Scary - not a veggie in sight!
Title: Re: Exercise
Post by: peleroja on July 15, 2008, 07:38:47 PM
I ride my exercise bike every day.  I'm now up to 80 minutes a day, 10 minutes at a time.  It's the only way I can lose weight as my dialysate contributes about 1,000 calories to my "diet."  I've lost 25 pounds so far doing this.
Title: Re: Exercise
Post by: AlasdairUK on July 16, 2008, 01:48:50 PM
Exercise is a must - It is difficult to get in to the habit, but once you break the cycle it then becomes difficult to stop exercising as it is a way of life. Start small and keep going and before you know it, Shad Ireland will be behind you or maybe not.
Title: Re: Exercise
Post by: LightLizard on July 16, 2008, 07:19:01 PM
the 'trick' is to make it a habit, and to do that you have to find a form of exercise that you enjoy. it can't be all 'work.'

when i first began displaying signs of kidney failure, i managed to get pretty sick. i was so stubborn that i wouldn't go to the doctor, and after i did go to the doctor, i resisted going to the hospital until i didn't have a choice in the matter.
the doctors were surprised when i didn't die, actually. i was told that the only thing that saved me was the fact that my heart and lungs are strong. i can only attribute that to 30 some-odd years of tai chi and qigong. even when i was bed-ridden and unable to stand, i found myself modifying some of the old qigong execises to help my breathing and state of mind. this is an excellent site for some of these kinds of exercises...
http://www.herbalshop.com/Xiang/xiang-gong.htm
and here is my site, for anyone that may be interested in exploring a system of exercise that's been around for close to a thousand years, now...
http://yinchuandao.bravehost.com/

as the old chinese saying goes 'a used hinge will not rust.'

love

~LL~
Title: Re: Exercise
Post by: Zach on January 21, 2011, 07:20:57 PM
 :bump;
Title: Re: Exercise
Post by: okarol on January 21, 2011, 11:42:14 PM
For Jenna's transplant evaluation the dietician asked how much exercise Jenna gets per week. She usually walks to the market each day (about 15 minutes each way) and also to a therapist once a week (30 mins each way) and the Farmer's Market (30 mins each way.) The dietician was SO impressed. She said 20 minutes a day - 5 days a week - would be good so what Jenna's doing is EXCELLENT.
Title: Re: Exercise
Post by: RichardMEL on January 22, 2011, 06:06:41 AM
For Jenna's transplant evaluation the dietician asked how much exercise Jenna gets per week. She usually walks to the market each day (about 15 minutes each way) and also to a therapist once a week (30 mins each way) and the Farmer's Market (30 mins each way.) The dietician was SO impressed. She said 20 minutes a day - 5 days a week - would be good so what Jenna's doing is EXCELLENT.

That ties in with exactly what I was told too. 20-30 minutes during the week was a good level to have. I usually do that anyway and had been, plus I have been tracking myself with GPS to see how far I've been going, and it's about 2km's (1.2miles) that I walk in the morning before work. Then on the weekend I take a much longer walk (today was 7.33km's or 4.5 miles) and it felt really good. Not only do I feel good getting out and about and working my legs and heart etc, but I know it's helping to burn off some of the extra food the damn preds is making me eat !!  :rofl; (yes that's right - I'm blaming those little white pills.. not my lack of willpower!!!)