Exercise

[MooseMom]

My unit has a fit if you even want to put your feet down and sit up right.  I'm not sure how the exercise concept would go over!

Yeah, I bet most units, if not all of them, want to maintain total control over the patients, and I also bet that the staff don't want to have to expend any extra time and energy to set up exercise machines. 

I just love this whole idea of exercising while on dialysis! After reading the article, it makes sense, doesn't it! Have any of you been given the opportunity to exercise while on the machine?

Not here. But I have found if I walk/jog for half and hour right before getting ready to go to dialysis the fluid seems to pull a lot easier and I do not feel washed out so much.

That's an excellent idea!  I wonder how many dialysis patients are told this sort of thing?

[BigSky]

That's an excellent idea!  I wonder how many dialysis patients are told this sort of thing?

I doubt many if any at all.

To me there seems to be a great deal of disconnect in this area of treatment in patients and information given to us by doctors in this area.

[Amanda From OZ]

Amanda, can you give us your exercise routine?

OK well first of all my biggest concern when i started training was for my fistula. My surgeon always told me not to lift anything heavy and not to place to much pressure on my arm, I'm not to sure what everyone Else's doctor thought about that. but anyhow i started off just doing cardio while i was waiting for my fistula to get stronger, and then starting building up my strenth.
Routine.
Cardio Sessions- 20 mins on treadmill, 15 minutes stepper, 20 minutes bike.
I usually go to the gym 5 days a week, my boyfriend says its important not to train to many body parts at a time, so its important to divide it equally within the week.

Monday - Cardio, Weights training (back, Lower back)
Tuesday - Cardio, Weight training (Chest, Biceps)
Thursday - Cardio,  Weight Training (Shoulders, Triceps)
Saturday - Cardio, weight Training (legs)
Sunday - Cardio, (ABS)

I usually do 3 Sets And 15 Reps .

Now please don't get confused i am no body builder lol i do weights fairly light dependsing on the exercise, and this routine is only on a good day, i also have my very bad day were i will not do as much.

Hope it helps.

[tamara]

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[tamara]

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[goofynina]

Amanda, can you give us your exercise routine?

OK well first of all my biggest concern when i started training was for my fistula. My surgeon always told me not to lift anything heavy and not to place to much pressure on my arm, I'm not to sure what everyone Else's doctor thought about that. but anyhow i started off just doing cardio while i was waiting for my fistula to get stronger, and then starting building up my strenth.
Routine.
Cardio Sessions- 20 mins on treadmill, 15 minutes stepper, 20 minutes bike.
I usually go to the gym 5 days a week, my boyfriend says its important not to train to many body parts at a time, so its important to divide it equally within the week.

Monday - Cardio, Weights training (back, Lower back)
Tuesday - Cardio, Weight training (Chest, Biceps)
Thursday - Cardio,  Weight Training (Shoulders, Triceps)
Saturday - Cardio, weight Training (legs)
Sunday - Cardio, (ABS)

I usually do 3 Sets And 15 Reps .

Now please don't get confused i am no body builder lol i do weights fairly light dependsing on the exercise, and this routine is only on a good day, i also have my very bad day were i will not do as much.

Hope it helps.

Well, i broke sweat just reading this   my workout for the day is done

[Sluff]

Amanda, can you give us your exercise routine?

OK well first of all my biggest concern when i started training was for my fistula. My surgeon always told me not to lift anything heavy and not to place to much pressure on my arm, I'm not to sure what everyone Else's doctor thought about that. but anyhow i started off just doing cardio while i was waiting for my fistula to get stronger, and then starting building up my strenth.
Routine.
Cardio Sessions- 20 mins on treadmill, 15 minutes stepper, 20 minutes bike.
I usually go to the gym 5 days a week, my boyfriend says its important not to train to many body parts at a time, so its important to divide it equally within the week.

Monday - Cardio, Weights training (back, Lower back)
Tuesday - Cardio, Weight training (Chest, Biceps)
Thursday - Cardio,  Weight Training (Shoulders, Triceps)
Saturday - Cardio, weight Training (legs)
Sunday - Cardio, (ABS)

I usually do 3 Sets And 15 Reps .

Now please don't get confused i am no body builder lol i do weights fairly light dependsing on the exercise, and this routine is only on a good day, i also have my very bad day were i will not do as much.

Hope it helps.

Well, i broke sweat just reading this   my workout for the day is done

I'm proud of you Goodynina cause I only got through about half way and have to go get a nap.

[goofynina]

  LMFFAO @ Sluff   

[Zach]

Cardio Sessions- 20 mins on treadmill, 15 minutes stepper, 20 minutes bike.

Do you do each cardio exercise every day (55 minutes total) or one type per day (15 or 20 minute)?  Thanks Amanda for taking the time to write your exercise routine.

I'm sorry there's always "noise" that seems to follow such important exercise information.     

[goofynina]

I'm sorry there's always "noise" that seems to follow such important exercise information.     

Zach, may i ask what "noise" are you referring to? 

[BigSky]

Amanda, can you give us your exercise routine?

OK well first of all my biggest concern when i started training was for my fistula. My surgeon always told me not to lift anything heavy and not to place to much pressure on my arm, I'm not to sure what everyone Else's doctor thought about that. but anyhow i started off just doing cardio while i was waiting for my fistula to get stronger, and then starting building up my strenth.
Routine.
Cardio Sessions- 20 mins on treadmill, 15 minutes stepper, 20 minutes bike.
I usually go to the gym 5 days a week, my boyfriend says its important not to train to many body parts at a time, so its important to divide it equally within the week.

Monday - Cardio, Weights training (back, Lower back)
Tuesday - Cardio, Weight training (Chest, Biceps)
Thursday - Cardio,  Weight Training (Shoulders, Triceps)
Saturday - Cardio, weight Training (legs)
Sunday - Cardio, (ABS)

I usually do 3 Sets And 15 Reps .

Now please don't get confused i am no body builder lol i do weights fairly light dependsing on the exercise, and this routine is only on a good day, i also have my very bad day were i will not do as much.

Hope it helps.

If you dont mind answering.

How far do you get in terms of miles, kilometers when you do treadmill work and exercise bike work?  That is if you measure such stuff.

Just want to compare to what I do to see if maybe I should be doing more.

Since you also exercise Zach maybe you could give an idea of what you try to do in such terms also if you measure it in that way.

[Amanda From OZ]

Do you do each Cardiod exercise every day (55 minutes total) or one type per day (15 or 20 minute)? 

Yes i try to do the 55 minutes. (so i can then by pass MC Donald's.... cheeseburgers yummmmmm) 

Amanda, can you give us your exercise routine?

OK well first of all my biggest concern when i started training was for my fistula. My surgeon always told me not to lift anything heavy and not to place to much pressure on my arm, I'm not to sure what everyone Else's doctor thought about that. but anyhow i started off just doing Cardiod while i was waiting for my fistula to get stronger, and then starting building up my strength.
Routine.
Cardio Sessions- 20 mins on treadmill, 15 minutes stepper, 20 minutes bike.
I usually go to the gym 5 days a week, my boyfriend says its important not to train to many body parts at a time, so its important to divide it equally within the week.

Monday - Cardio, Weights training (back, Lower back)
Tuesday - Cardio, Weight training (Chest, Biceps)
Thursday - Cardio, Weight Training (Shoulders, Triceps)
Saturday - Cardio, weight Training (legs)
Sunday - Cardio, (ABS)

I usually do 3 Sets And 15 Reps .

Now please don't get confused i am no body builder lol i do weights fairly light dependsing on the exercise, and this routine is only on a good day, i also have my very bad day were i will not do as much.

Hope it helps.

If you don't mind answering.

How far do you get in terms of miles, kilometers when you do treadmill work and exercise bike work? That is if you measure such stuff.

Just want to compare to what I do to see if maybe I should be doing more.

Since you also exercise Zach maybe you could give an idea of what you try to do in such terms also if you measure it in that way.

hmmm well in miles and stuff like that i am not to sure. i can pay More attention to the "proper" terminology when i go to the gym next.

On the stepper i do level 6
and treadmill i go about 6.5 speed......... sorry that was probably very confusing    i will get the details tomorrow.





EDITED: Fixed Quote Tag Error - Sluff, Moderator

[Zach]

Since you also exercise Zach maybe you could give an idea of what you try to do in such terms also if you measure it in that way.

I ride a 20 year-old Tunturi (Ergometer) Stationary Bike 45 minutes x 3 days a week, on my dialysis days, before treatment.  I don't count the "distance" but rather the time since most studies I've read refer to time as critical.  I first started with 10 minutes and added more time each week till I got to 45 minutes.

I've slowly increased the resistance over the last year from 10 Nm to 15 Nm, which is about 70 watts/60 rpm to 100 watts/60 rpm. 

I do weight-resistance (takes about 45 minutes, too) x 3 days a week, on my non-dialysis days.  Right now I'm focused on shoulder rehab from an injury, so each exercise I do 12 reps and 3 sets: bicep curls, seated cable rows, cable shoulder internal rotation, rear delt row, and cable tricep extension.

As with Amanda, I use lighter weights ... 10 lbs to 25 lbs on average.
I always say, "leave your ego at the gym door."         

[Amanda From OZ]

Great routine Zach.... much more technical terminology then me 

[angela515]

WOw Amanda, you make me wanna achieve that kind of exercise routine! That's amazing, and I applaude you. Right now, since i'm still in the process of healing, I only do 10 minutes on the treadmill at 0 incline, and 1mph as my speed... LOL, i'm sure an 80yr old could do that but I need to take it slowly until I am fully healed. Once healed though... I hope to increase incline every 2-3 weeks, and speed each week or 2... And time each week. I hope to achieve your levels within the next 6 months, your my hero!!  

[Sluff]

I'm sorry there's always "noise" that seems to follow such important exercise information.     

Zach, may i ask what "noise" are you referring to? 

Goofynina I think Zach is referring to the gasping for air that usually happens after I try to exercise. That gets NOISY.

Zach you don't have to apologize for my noise.

[BigSky]

I ride a 20 year-old Tunturi (Ergometer) Stationary Bike 45 minutes x 3 days a week, on my dialysis days, before treatment.  I don't count the "distance" but rather the time since most studies I've read refer to time as critical.  I first started with 10 minutes and added more time each week till I got to 45 minutes.

I was wondering distance just to see what intensity level would be for that time period.

I usually do the treadmill 4 times a week for 30 minutes jog/walk, 30 minutes on the elliptical 3 times a week  moderate intensity, and lift weights 3 days of the week of which I vary weeks of one lifting heavy and then the next do lighter weights for reps. Also on dialysis days I do the treadmill but a much lower intensity. 

[Amanda From OZ]

WOw Amanda, you make me wanna achieve that kind of exercise routine! That's amazing, and I applaude you. Right now, since i'm still in the process of healing, I only do 10 minutes on the treadmill at 0 incline, and 1mph as my speed... LOL, i'm sure an 80yr old could do that but I need to take it slowly until I am fully healed. Once healed though... I hope to increase incline every 2-3 weeks, and speed each week or 2... And time each week. I hope to achieve your levels within the next 6 months, your my hero!!  

Thanks angela. You have to start off slowly, you have been through a huge operation. You will get there with no  problem.

Thanks all,  for the positive comments.

[kitkatz]

I was gasping for air just reading all of this exercise stuff. I'm tired. I think I need a nap.

SNORE!

[Amanda From OZ]

ha ha its OK i feel tired thinking about it also but i try to push myself!! today i am not feeling very motivated because my HB has dropped, i might take it easy this week. It makes me feel depressed when i don't go.

[Sluff]

ha ha its OK i feel tired thinking about it also but i try to push myself!! today i am not feeling very motivated because my HB has dropped, i might take it easy this week. It makes me feel depressed when i don't go.

All joking aside, keep up the good work Amanda and Zach and anyone else has the self motivation to exercise, it's just not for me I'm too exhausted after work.

[kitkatz]

Me too. Work exhausts me. And then only having Tuesday and Thursdays to get out and take care of life things, I am tired all of the time.  Hmmmmm...Maybe exercising would be a good thing....Nahhh!

[BigSky]

just ran 3 miles and thought I was doing pretty good,  Seems doing much more is possible.


Here is someone who was the first dialysis patient to complete a  Ironman triathlon.

2.4 miles swim, 112 mile bike ride and 26.2 mile run.

http://www.shadireland.com/


Here is a link to some of his training logs dated in 2005.

Pretty impressive I have to say for a dialysis patient.

http://www.ironshad.com/training.html

[angela515]

We must remember everyone's energy level is different....ad everyones exercise routine should start off differently.

I like to use myself as an example, b/c I regret doing it.

For the 2 /2 yrs on dialysis I used being on dialysis as my excuse why I couldn't do this or do that, so what did I mostly do? Sit down and watch TV. Sure I had to still take care of my kids, but as they started going to school, they dint get home till 4pm, and bedtime is 8pm.. so only 4 hours, and most of the time they are content playing with each other... so I still would watch TV when I got the chance. What did this do to me? Made me VERY lazy... and very weak, and no energy level at all. Now I must start like I'm a newborn and rebuild energy, strength and all of that... and I think the 2 12 yrs sitting around has impacted my healing time and im now suffering from that and my energy level is so low...

My advice... do what you can, wether its walking around your house for 5-10 minutes at a time 3 or 4 times a day.. do what you can and make sure you do it, and gradually build it up. Don't be like me.

[twirl]

I adore our BBC or BBBC station from England
You are what you Eat- shows a lot of meals people eat and it seems like they always eat pork and beans with fired eggs-- looks good to me--- but is it true---- and they eat a lot of fish and chips and something like potato chips----- and a lot of Chinese----- sounds good to me

but are pork and beans eaten with fried eggs?   and this lady on the show says to use a little jogger mat 20 before breakfast and 20 minutes before dinner  ( 40/ day)  do you think that will help
the people lose weight after 8 weeks of no meat, drinks and sugar and I wonder if they do a follow up to see if the habits were continued


love their animal shows also