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Dialysis Discussion => Dialysis: General Discussion => Topic started by: Lucinda on August 13, 2009, 10:06:43 PM
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In a personal message I just received I was told I was, among other things, a control freak who should just shut up. So, that is exactly what I am going to do.
That is it for me. This is above all other things, supposed to be a support site. Sending aggressive personal messages to other members is cowardice. But then again, all bullies are cowards. If you have something to say, do it in a public arena.
I for one have absolutely no intention of putting up with that. I wish all of you the very best in the future but this is definitely my last post.
O'Karol, please remove me as a member. I don't have any wish to receive emails of that nature again.
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oh bloody hell!
I have a fair idea who is responsible.. it is sad that tempers flare and things get out of control like this :(
I'll miss you Lucinda, and I hope you change your mind - you shouldn't let one person, or a minority, drive you away. You have as much right to your thoughts and opinions as anyone else (including the PMer).
I am now sad.
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WTH? Cindy that is ridiculous! It's the offender who should be :Kit n Stik;
They are the ones who should zip it! I have no idea what they are referring too and really don't care. We are each entitled to an opinion. Please hang around. Can you PM me your email? I want to keep in touch. :cuddle;
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I don't believe this, who on earth would do something like that? And why? I've missed reading some posts with all that is going on in my life but I've not see you post anything to make someone do that - anyway unless you made a nasty personal attack on them they had no rght to do that.
Lucinda, don't go - please don't let the buly win, you need to stand up to them, they should go, not you - and anyway Richmel will go into a decline without you ;)
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Give it a few days and come back Lucinda. Honestly. I've had times I want to bugger off too - but after a while you realise that most people don't mean things the way they come out - and I've been the person saying the things that get misinterpreted. Sometimes you just need to avoid people, just like in real life. It doesn't mean you need to lose out on the support you will find with all the other people.
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Lucinda,
You have so much history here at IHD - don't let someone who lashes out ignorantly drive you away. Stop and remember the good that you have felt and done here.
If it weren't for you, Sluff & his wife would be living in sin... (ok, so it was a second wedding...)
It is so easy to get emotionally involved in cyberspace, especially when you are feeling alone and vulnerable. That is why we are all here. At some point in the game, dialysis touched our lives, and we sought support.
You have so much support that you have already given to us from the other side of the world, and we've watched your journey for a very long time. Don't go away. The simple declaration that someone has pushed you away is allowing a bully to feel satisfaction, and the rest of us will feel the loss.
This should be a lesson for all of us. Because at the other end of your monitor is a living, breathing human being. Someone you may never meet. But you should always consider what you write, and how your words would impact a person. Would you speak to someone you care about that way? Words have power and words can hurt. You can disagree with someone and not attack them. Attacking shows weakness. The true power is in restraining yourself and trying to rise above the conflict.
Lucinda, I hope that the words from everyone in this thread can help to heal. Take a break if you need to, but please don't cut the cord. We are all facing that final goodbye together, no need to be premature.
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Sorry, Lucinda that you are upset. I think most of us here have had a run in or maybe two. I have been put in my place, had my hands slapped once or twice, been called a name here and there. But, the bottom line for me is, I need IHD and have many people I consider friends. So, I find a way to get over my hurt feelings, because I need to be here. The goodness on this site outweighs the bad 95/5. And no one person is right. We all have our specific opinions that are true for us. Step back for a couple of days, take a deep breathe and see if you miss us as much as we will be missing you. :cuddle;
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What? Who? Wait!
:Kit n Stik;
Don't go anywhere. You have your right to your opinion.
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Didn't this happen last year in a similar situation with you Lucinda?
Isn't it against the rules also to do that type of message?
Lucinda, take some time off and comeback, but don't leave. To me your one of the original members when I joined, so you made it this far. Don't let this one lone idiot ruin it for you and letting them win by you leaving, that's just plain b.s thinking there.
Comeback with a Vengance! Fight for what you believe!
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I've spoken with Lucinda on the phone (strangely enough I was standing in front of a fridge full of beer...it was SOOO tempting !!! :beer1; - er not that talking to Cindy makes me want to drink hehehe). I respect where she's coming from. She, like others lately, has had a very difficult week and she herself said she may have overreacted to the message.. but the point is, whatever was said in the PM wasn't appreciated and when she wanted to come on here to try and help others and, dare I say it, unwind a bit from her daily troubles she didn't expect or need to be abused in a PM. I don't know what was written(she didn't tell me and I didn't ask) but I don't think she needed to come online and be upset by an abusive message. We don't need that. I realise that the person that sent the PM likely feels unhappy and whatever they feel has slighted them but they should know that there IS a real person on the other end of that keyboard, dealing with all this stuff just like they are, and they have feelings too.
We wound up having a bit of a laugh, interupted by a few phone dropouts ( I think that hummer of hers is a natural killer of phone signals!!! :rofl;) - at least she is OK and she has her doggies with her :)
Mods/Admins: is there any way to block PM's coming in from specific users? as in "I don't want to read a private message from X - block it" facility on here?
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RM, could you pass me one of those beers? ;D
As far as blocking, I forgot where that was discuseed. I'll look right now if I can do it.
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There is the ability to put a person on the ignore list. I went to my PM's, then on the left is a box of various settings. I then clicked on Change Settings at the bottom of the box, which then displays an area to put members name(s) you want ignored.
From this page you can change a variety of personal messaging options - including how messages are displayed. You can also create a list of people to reject incoming messages from.
There are other options displayed too, but be sure to click on Save Profile on the bottom right.
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Thanks Chris. I'll pass that info on to Cindy. :beer1;
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Lucinda, I have PM'd you.
okarol/admin
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Lucinda,
I have PM'ed you, too.
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Now I'm having a bad day too. Waaaahhh.
Cindy, you definitely don't need nasty PMs but we definitely need you. Of course I'll respect whatever you decide, but you belong here, we love you here and I really hope that with a bit of time you can ignore the person who has been offensive to you.
Oh man, what a world.
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I really wish we would all reconsider when we write something that can be construed as mean to someone else on the boards or in a PM.
Lucinda you are a valued member here, please do not go just because someone decided to be mean in a PM.
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Oh, Lucinda,
Please don't leave. Use the option that Chris posted and block PMs from the offending person. You have every right to enjoy the support of IHD. But you don't need unpleasant PMs.
And for all of us, when we post we hear our own voices in the way we intend for them to be heard, but the receiver can't hear that. Electronic communication is fraught with unintended messages because we tend to be hasty with this easy form. That haste is our downfall. I am as guilty as everyone else.
Especially when peeved, please slow down. Consider whether you really need to send that message. We need one another too much to have our family rent asunder by anger.
:grouphug;
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If it helps I am prepared to take all responsibility for the angst!!!! It was all my fault - you can all take it out on me!! >:D
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If it helps I am prepared to take all responsibility for the angst!!!! It was all my fault - you can all take it out on me!! >:D
No way.....! I don't believe you..! You are too sweet.... and you like chocolate.
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I've been accused of unacceptable behaviour before!!!! :rofl;
>:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D
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that must have been before my time here......
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Just a question?
I have seen somewhere that name calling is a big no no on the site? (during the Billybill discussion)
What else? Is there like a "code of conduct" or something?
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Ick! I am sorry this happened to you, Lucinda. Please consider everyone's request that you stay with us.
You're right, that behavior was totally unaceptable, and I think the offender should apologize to you, even if he believes he has already done that before. Please don't let a big boy temper tantrum drive you away from here. I have not even gotten a chance to get to know you.
Take care, and if you decide you'd rather not come back, we'll miss you, but will still be wishing you only the best! :grouphug;
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Just a question?
I have seen somewhere that name calling is a big no no on the site? (during the Billybill discussion)
What else? Is there like a "code of conduct" or something?
http://ihatedialysis.com/forum/index.php?topic=540.0 (http://ihatedialysis.com/forum/index.php?topic=540.0)
The rules of the site are here. It is good for all of us to review them from time to time. Thanks for bringing this up Des.
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Lucinda please do not leave because of that one person!!! Ignore what they said in the pm - just tell them you are entitled to your opinion and to butt out!!! I would just block that person from sending me anymore pms. Sure hope you talked to the admins so that person can at least be warned that this behavior is unacceptable!!
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the nature of our condition is that sometimes we are just too sensitive to the words of others, and often, we have a tendency to over-react in response to the words of some.
i figure if i have made someone angry with my words, they were probably angry to start with and are just reacting to my words out of their own frustration. it has nothing to do with my words and everything to do with their misery.
to pm you and put you down is something that only a few are stupid enough to do on this site.
those are pretty good odds, considering that there are quite a few members on the site, hey?
there's bound to be a turd amongst the roses, sometimes.
don't leave lucinda. why let a turd control your actions?
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I agree Lucinda.
You shouldnt let one person who sits in there own self pity knock you out of the place you come to to talk and share good or bad, even sad times.
Plus you were here long before they were.
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hey PK, what do you think of home P/D?
i've been doing it for about two years now, and i've pretty much come to the conclusion that i would prefer to stay on dialysis rather than get a transplant.
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But also remember that we are like a family. In real life we have fights too - and this is a good one!! I have said terrible things to my family at times over the years - I've thrown a drink in mys sister's face, I've slammed my mother's front door so hard that I smashed the entire pane of glass, I ran over my other sister's foot deliberately with the car - it doesn't mean I never speak to them again. We forgive each other and move on. Actually - that's a good idea for a thread - things you have done in anger ... fess up people!!
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Okay, Hanify, remind me not to get you mad unless I'm wearing steel toed boots!
Honestly, Lucinda, ignore the trolls! Stick around, we need you here!
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Good post Hanify. We all say stupid things. I could say one thing to several people and there could be one who interprets what I said totally wrong. Especially online. Hanify, you must have some fun family gatherings :rofl; I know what you are saying - my sister and I could have some good fights, but I love her dearly (just don't always agree with her). By the way, great idea for a new thread. Maybe it will give us some much needed laughs. :2thumbsup;
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It's the Irish heritage - lots of temper tantrums!
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But also remember that we are like a family. In real life we have fights too - and this is a good one!! I have said terrible things to my family at times over the years - I've thrown a drink in mys sister's face, I've slammed my mother's front door so hard that I smashed the entire pane of glass, I ran over my other sister's foot deliberately with the car - it doesn't mean I never speak to them again. We forgive each other and move on. Actually - that's a good idea for a thread - things you have done in anger ... fess up people!!
When I was in college I lived at home for awhile. I got so upset at my 1 and only brother for his drinking and drugging that we got into a wicked fight. We both said some pretty mean things to each other and were just short of a fist fight. I stormed out of the house and lived in my Chevy Chevette (tiny car) for over a month until I saved enough money to get an apartment. I parked on the streets near campus and snuck into the dorms to shower. We did get over it.
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:grouphug; Don't go Lucinda!
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I AM THE EVIL PERSON WHOM YOU MESSAGED ONCE TELLING ME WHAT i SHOULD NOT DO. I MESSAGED BACK SAYING THAT i WOULD STOP. YOU SEND A SECOND REPEATING WHAT I SHOULDN'T DO AND I MESSAGED BACK SAYING I WOULD NOT APOLOGIZE A SECOND TIME. YOU MESSAGE THE 3 RD TIME TELL ME TO WATCH MY BLOODPRESSE AND THAT i WAS A LWAYS UPSET WITH SOMEONE. i PMED YOU TO SAY STAY OUUT OF MY BUSINESS.
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I AM THE EVIL PERSON WHOM YOU MESSAGED ONCE TELLING ME WHAT i SHOULD NOT DO. I MESSAGED BACK SAYING THAT i WOULD STOP. YOU SEND A SECOND REPEATING WHAT I SHOULDN'T DO AND I MESSAGED BACK SAYING I WOULD NOT APOLOGIZE A SECOND TIME. YOU MESSAGE THE 3 RD TIME TELL ME TO WATCH MY BLOODPRESSE AND THAT i WAS A LWAYS UPSET WITH SOMEONE. i PMED YOU TO SAY STAY OUUT OF MY BUSINESS.
There is a difference between Messaging on the public board and Personally PMing someone. Also when you type in Capital letters it means you are yelling/screaming.
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I AM THE EVIL PERSON WHOM YOU MESSAGED ONCE TELLING ME WHAT i SHOULD NOT DO. I MESSAGED BACK SAYING THAT i WOULD STOP. YOU SEND A SECOND REPEATING WHAT I SHOULDN'T DO AND I MESSAGED BACK SAYING I WOULD NOT APOLOGIZE A SECOND TIME. YOU MESSAGE THE 3 RD TIME TELL ME TO WATCH MY BLOODPRESSE AND THAT i WAS A LWAYS UPSET WITH SOMEONE. i PMED YOU TO SAY STAY OUUT OF MY BUSINESS.
There is a difference between Messaging on the public board and Personally PMing someone. Also when you type in Capital letters it means you are yelling/screaming.
He's upset at all this stuff.
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Yes, I know. On both counts Who pmed and who started this thread????
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But also remember that we are like a family. In real life we have fights too - and this is a good one!! I have said terrible things to my family at times over the years - I've thrown a drink in mys sister's face, I've slammed my mother's front door so hard that I smashed the entire pane of glass, I ran over my other sister's foot deliberately with the car - it doesn't mean I never speak to them again.
Hanify, I understand what you are saying, and I think it's great that you are able to have these run-ins with your family and get past them and find humor in them. I, however, come from an abusive family. I don't speak to my family anymore - when you try everything you can think of and you are still being screamed at and threatened, it's time to go. I also have a parent who has never apologized to me once, so I believe in the power of apologies.
Those are some spectacular stories, though.... You would so be on the naughty step in my house! :rofl; >:D
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A naughty step? Ooooo RichardMel...lets go over to cariad's house and check that out!!! :rofl;
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A naughty step? Ooooo RichardMel...lets go over to cariad's house and check that out!!! :rofl;
:rofl; :rofl; :rofl;
You're both welcome any time! Just remember, you have to be really, really bad to earn a spot on the naughty step. I trust you two are up to the challenge.... >:D
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Hell yes! Wenchie and I are both definitely capable of the naughty step!!! And I'm a little scared of Hanify just now what with her driving over peoples feet and smashing doors and stuff... maybe the other side of the world is safer for me... on the naughty step!! :rofl;
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I can't believe I missed this, Cindy I feel Terrible that this happened!!!!! Maybe you need to take the "baby" out and get her dirty(run someone over) >:D >:D >:D I REALLY can't handle anymore people leaving this site, a break I can handle as long as you check in with Richy baby ( I hear he's on the naughty step) xoxoxoxoxo
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Mommy daddy stop fighting
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Just seeing this for the first time. Please don't go Cindy. If you are really going, please send me your e-mail when I pm so that I can find you when I come to Australia. xo Linda