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« on: August 07, 2008, 05:16:57 PM »

I just heard from the transplant coordinator at Kaiser.  UCLA wants me to go on a 9 month treatment because my TB skin test is always positive (no problem).  They also said they want a BMI of less than 40 (down from the 35 I was originally told, and since I'm almost there, that's the good news).  The huh? kind of news is they want a GI consult because I have "cirrhotic transformation."  Huh?????  Anyone know what that is?  I see the doc tomorrow, but I wondered if anyone could give me a heads up cuz Webmd didn't tell me a thing.
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« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2008, 06:13:59 PM »

cirrhotic transformation....the first word I would relate to cirrhosis which relates to liver.  A problem with your liver?  Just a guess...
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« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2008, 10:32:07 PM »

I found this, not the greatest thing, but this is what the doctor wants to make sure it is not.


Changes in renal kaliuretic function in the dynamics of hepatic cirrhotic transformation]
 
[My paper] A V Pozdniakov, Ia D Finkinshteĭn, G D Mysh
During formation of hepatic cirrhosis in animals, excessive potassium loss has been found to depend on the increased loading of a nephron by its cation at its early stage and on abnormally changed tubular processes at late stages.
Mesh-terms: Animals; Dogs; English Abstract; Kidney :: metabolism; Liver Cirrhosis, Experimental :: metabolism; Liver Cirrhosis, Experimental :: urine; Potassium :: urine;
http://lib.bioinfo.pl/pmid:8183619

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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9102280

[Immunogenic hyperthyroidism with hyperdynamic heart failure and early cirrhotic transformation of the liver][Article in German]


Fischer MR, Spes CH, Huss R, Gärtner R.
Medizinische Klinik, Klinikum Innenstadt, Ludwig-Maximilians-Universität München.

HISTORY AND CLINICAL FINDINGS: A 58-year-old woman was admitted because of jaundice, ascites and marked oedema. For three years she had suffered from nervousness, decreasing fitness and weight loss, which had been assumed as due to chronic alcoholism. Liver biopsy revealed extensive fibrosis, in part with early cirrhotic transformation. This was followed by cardiac failure with atrial fibrillation (ventricular rate 140/min) and marked pleural effusions. The thyroid was diffusely enlarged and there were signs of exophthalmos. INVESTIGATIONS: Bilirubin concentration was 3 mg/dl, lactate dehydrogenase activity was 310 U/l, cholesterase 1.3 kU/l and the prothrombin test was 21%. The TSH level was 0.01 microU/ml while the free thyroxine level was 4.7 ng/dl and that of free triiodothyronine 13.5 pg/ml. Chest radiograph revealed cardiomegaly, bilateral peripheral pulmonary congestion and pleural effusions to midfield. Right heart catheterization excluded pulmonary hypertension; cardiac output was 10l/min. The thyroid was enlarged on ultrasound and diffusely echopoor, as in immune thyroid disease. TREATMENT AND COURSE: Cardiac failure regressed and thyroid function normalized within ten days on propranolol, 4 x 40 mg and thiamazole 3 x 40 mg daily intravenously. Subtotal thyroidectomy was performed three weeks later with subsequent thyroid hormone substitution. Liver functions were normal six months later and ultrasound showed no signs of cirrhotic change and the ascites had resolved. CONCLUSION: Hyperthyroidism is frequently associated with changes in liver functions. In extreme cases, high-output cardiac failure may occur, with liver congestion and clinical as well as histological changes like those in liver cirrhosis.

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Diabetes -  age 7

Neuropathy in legs age 10

Eye impairments and blindness in one eye began in 95, major one during visit to the Indy 500 race of that year
   -glaucoma and surgery for that
     -cataract surgery twice on same eye (2000 - 2002). another one growing in good eye
     - vitrectomy in good eye post tx November 2003, totally blind for 4 months due to complications with meds and infection

Diagnosed with ESRD June 29, 1999
1st Dialysis - July 4, 1999
Last Dialysis - December 2, 2000

Kidney and Pancreas Transplant - December 3, 2000

Cataract Surgery on good eye - June 24, 2009
Knee Surgery 2010
2011/2012 in process of getting a guide dog
Guide Dog Training begins July 2, 2012 in NY
Guide Dog by end of July 2012
Next eye surgery late 2012 or 2013 if I feel like it
Home with Guide dog - July 27, 2012
Knee Surgery #2 - Oct 15, 2012
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« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2008, 10:49:34 PM »

Just wanted to wish you luck and hope that things turn out OK. :cuddle;
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« Reply #4 on: August 08, 2008, 01:26:02 PM »

Hi, i just wanted to let you know I'll be thinking of you. Post and let us know how it went!

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« Reply #5 on: August 08, 2008, 04:10:04 PM »

Doncha just love it when docs don't talk to one another?  All my doc said was there was some concern over the way my liver looked on the ultrasound and the transplant team wants me to see a GI.  She didn't say it was a problem, just a "concern."  As for the TB skin test, my neph wants me to see an infectious diseases doctor, as she's concerned about my doing some kind of prophalaxis for 9 months.  However, the liver has to come first, so as soon as I get an appointment and know anything I'll let you know.  Oh, yeah, about the BMI.  I weighed 210 at the doc's today and a BMI of 40 is 204, so I'm pretty close!
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« Reply #6 on: August 09, 2008, 01:50:32 PM »

6 pounds - that's a reasonable goal!
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« Reply #7 on: August 09, 2008, 02:10:55 PM »

You are very near goal...down hill to that number.  Good for you.
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Lost vision due to retinopathy 12/2005, 30 Laser Surg 2006
ESRD diagnosed 12/2006
03/2007 Fantastic Eye Surgeon in ND got my sight back and implanted lenses in both eyes, great distance & low reading.
Gortex 4/07.  Started dialysis in ND 5/4/2007
Gortex clotted off Thanksgiving Week of 2007, was unclotted and promptly clotted off 1/2 hour later so Permacath Rt chest.
3/2008 move to NC to be close to children.
2 Step fistula, 05/08-elevated 06/08, using mid August.
Aug 5, 08, trained NxStage and Home on 9/3/2008.
Fistulagram 09/2008. In hospital 10/30/08, Bowel Obstruction.
Back to RAI-Latrobe In Center. No home hemo at this time.
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« Reply #8 on: August 09, 2008, 02:57:00 PM »

Idiot docs!
They have all this technology, mail service, walking distance,  and a land line to to communicate and they don't do it. Yet heavan forbid we are late for our appointment so they can make us wait an hour to see them for less than 10 minutes.
Doctors just need a swift  :Kit n Stik; in the  :sir ken;
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Diabetes -  age 7

Neuropathy in legs age 10

Eye impairments and blindness in one eye began in 95, major one during visit to the Indy 500 race of that year
   -glaucoma and surgery for that
     -cataract surgery twice on same eye (2000 - 2002). another one growing in good eye
     - vitrectomy in good eye post tx November 2003, totally blind for 4 months due to complications with meds and infection

Diagnosed with ESRD June 29, 1999
1st Dialysis - July 4, 1999
Last Dialysis - December 2, 2000

Kidney and Pancreas Transplant - December 3, 2000

Cataract Surgery on good eye - June 24, 2009
Knee Surgery 2010
2011/2012 in process of getting a guide dog
Guide Dog Training begins July 2, 2012 in NY
Guide Dog by end of July 2012
Next eye surgery late 2012 or 2013 if I feel like it
Home with Guide dog - July 27, 2012
Knee Surgery #2 - Oct 15, 2012
Eye Surgery - Nov 2012
Lifes Adventures -  Priceless

No two day's are the same, are they?
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