THERE IS A CURE!

[gotkidney]

http://www.gemm-therapy.com/eng/default.php

i found this on youtube!!

they say they have cured over 100 people of ESRD since 1987 with no side effects. this will change everything. they say it can take a few weeks or months, and is affordable.

[okarol]

There is one patient profiled from 2002 who had some kidney problem (no diagnosis?) so I would hardly call that proof.

The website also says of the founder: Dr. Seckiner Gorgun, the great scientist who has helped hundreds of hopeless patients to regain their health has passed away on the 7th of June 2008 following a heart attack. It doesn't say who will take his place.

The other problem is that this is in Kosovo.

Just my 2 cents. I wouldn't waste time on it, personally. 

[flip]

I guess I'll just stick with the kanoki foot pads.

[twirl]

you mean this will not work
I am looking for a magic cure all
you know my family a PKD family

[stauffenberg]

Franz Mesmer, after whom 'Mesmerism' was named, was thrown out of Vienna and Paris by the medical societies of the late 18th century by peddling exactly this same nonsense about magnetic waves curing all diseases.  It sounds simple, but that is the problem.  Given that different diseases have a wide variety of causes, from infection to faulty DNA replication, from hypertension to disordered metabolism, the ability of one method -- electromagnetic waves -- to cure all of them has to be suspect from the start.  Since there are at least 20 different major causes of kidney disease, each with its completely unique mechanism, such as autoimmunity, faulty metabolism and its toxic by-products in diabetes, structural damage from hypertension, cancer cell proliferation, or mechanical damage in PKD, why would one intervention, low frequency radio waves, be able to correct them all?  Quackery is widespread, but nowhere more so than on the internet.

[Chris]

Same crap has been applied to diabetes a few years ago and some people still think there is a cure for diabetes. Idiots

[Sluff]

Lets all go and get some magnets now.     

[G-Ma]

I have magnets on my fridge..should I hold them during dialysis or what???

[Chris]

Just remember that you need 2. Should we use the opposite attracts method or just lay them on us?

[flip]

don't forget the foot pads, they remove toxins while you sleep.

[twirl]

don't forget the vodka
it removes stress

[Bryce]

I have already tried this therapy and apart from it feeling like I had detoxed a bit it had no affect on my lab results, in fact it was while I was using this therapy that I became very ill with some kind of flu virus (even though I had had my flu and pneumonia jab) which resulted in my lab results plummeting and my kidney's going into failure. So as far as I'm concerned I would not get my hopes up about this therapy curing ERSD.

[Kitsune]

Oh, if only! If this were true, no one would need a kidney transplant or dialysis. More snake oil sold by unscrupulous people who want to get rich off the hope of others. This is reprehensible.

[Sluff]

I would hope that anyone who wants to try any new therapy would check with their Nephrologist first.

[flip]

I notice the newbie who started the thread has not posted again. Probably a spammer.

[okarol]

I figured it was spam, but since it's renal related, and these type of "cures" come up now and then, I felt it was worth discussion.

[flip]

There was one on the NKF website who really blasted me for questioning her ability to heal CKD with her cosmic powers. I can be such an ass hole at times.

[okarol]

There was one on the NKF website who really blasted me for questioning her ability to heal CKD with her cosmic powers. I can be such an ass hole at times.

Man Flip, you need to open up your mind! 

[Chris]

So what would happen if we mixed magnetisim and csmic powers to heal CKD?

[flip]

I don't care...just as long as I have my Kinoki foot pads to filter out all the toxins while I sleep. Who needs dialysis with all this stuff available? I think I'll submit my bill on the foot pads to the insurance company and see what happens.

[Sluff]

Everyone knows that banana juice cures all kinds of diseases right?   

[okarol]

Ohh yeah! And there's a cure using wine too! http://ihatedialysis.com/forum/index.php?topic=1926.0

[KT0930]

I think I'll stick with the wine! 

[okarol]

Well, there's no shortage of cures on the internet - Here's one that is an herbal treatment http://www.kundankidneycare.com/

In the FAQ's the doctor says (I believe taking medicine for a long period is better then thrice/week dialysis for life time)
 

[Chris]

Yet they can not answer their own questions they posted on their website.
- How many patients with kidney failure have you treated till present?
- What tests can be conducted to detect kidney disease?

If they don't know those answers, ohhh crap!