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« on: July 03, 2007, 11:51:35 AM » |
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I've been keeping up with a friend's medical issues here at work and heard about a treatment today that I've never heard of before.
As background, this person has had some level of renal failure for several years. He is not on dialysis and is likely a long way from there now. The cause of his renal issue was not known until recently. He's been treated in the past with Zestril and high dose Prednisone.
His neph has diagnosed an autoimmune disorder which from what I've been able to find is probably IgA nephropathy. The doc is planning to put him on a drug "cocktail" that includes steroids and a treatment to clear toxins from the body. Now this treatment is NOT dialysis and it sounds very unconventional. It supposedly consists of a foot bath through which toxins are drawn out of the body through the feet.
Yes I know what you are thinking. This is the craziest treatment you've heard of. Thats what I thought too. The doc involved is a board certified nephrologist and practices in conjunction with a well known medical center here in Los Angeles.
After this treatment was mentioned my first question was how much it was going to cost. Of course this all sounds like high priced snake oil...the answer was about $40 in the office or at home.
So...and I think I already know the answer...has anyone heard of such a treatment before especially in relation to kidney failure?
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« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2007, 12:38:38 PM » |
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No, I haven't. I hope it works for your friend. It does sound quite odd to me.
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« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2007, 12:56:47 PM » |
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Not that treatment but ..i have seen a company that sells ( i cant remember if its something to add to water or some sort of pads?) that either way you put on your feet and it supposed to draw toxins out of your body. In the same breath a doctor was on the show , saying what a load of rubbish ! So maybe there is something in it ? It would be good to know what the outcome is ? An alternative to dialysis if developed ?
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« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2007, 06:44:57 PM » |
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My first thought is to be wary of something like this, but then I know that I have picked up a very harsh reaction to many chemicals, after working at Boeing with many exotic and dangerous chemicals, even waxing the car has to be done with latex gloves, have been washing and painting walls in the house and even cleaning compound gives me "hive-like" outbreaks if I'm not careful, so if things can be so easily drawn into the body through the skin, why can't toxins be taken out the same way?.......
Keep us informed please.....
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« Reply #4 on: July 04, 2007, 12:44:28 PM » |
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I've been keeping up with a friend's medical issues here at work and heard about a treatment today that I've never heard of before.
As background, this person has had some level of renal failure for several years. He is not on dialysis and is likely a long way from there now. The cause of his renal issue was not known until recently. He's been treated in the past with Zestril and high dose Prednisone.
His neph has diagnosed an autoimmune disorder which from what I've been able to find is probably IgA nephropathy. The doc is planning to put him on a drug "cocktail" that includes steroids and a treatment to clear toxins from the body. Now this treatment is NOT dialysis and it sounds very unconventional. It supposedly consists of a foot bath through which toxins are drawn out of the body through the feet.
Yes I know what you are thinking. This is the craziest treatment you've heard of. Thats what I thought too. The doc involved is a board certified nephrologist and practices in conjunction with a well known medical center here in Los Angeles.
After this treatment was mentioned my first question was how much it was going to cost. Of course this all sounds like high priced snake oil...the answer was about $40 in the office or at home.
So...and I think I already know the answer...has anyone heard of such a treatment before especially in relation to kidney failure?
You have to try to find out as much as you about this treatment! It sounds intriguing. Dpnna |
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« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2007, 05:21:57 PM » |
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I have heard of foot treatments to remove toxins but not with renal failure. Interesting -- keep us posted!
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« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2007, 06:00:29 PM » |
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If I can go back I would sure try this treatment before any freakin needle or catheter and other craps come with it. Yep, my freakin kidneys fail because of IgA.
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Chicken Little
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« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2007, 08:42:01 PM » |
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I went to my podiatry center for a pedicure today. The nurse told me that it's probably an Aqua Chi machine the doctor is using. www.aquachifootbath.com |
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« Reply #8 on: July 05, 2007, 09:00:20 PM » |
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This has not been FDA approved at all and the engineering student, my daughter, says to watch out when combining electricity and water!
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« Reply #9 on: July 05, 2007, 09:15:04 PM » |
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« Reply #10 on: July 05, 2007, 10:17:01 PM » |
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Did someone here mentioned electricity contacts with water?
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« Reply #11 on: July 06, 2007, 06:53:48 AM » |
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This has not been FDA approved at all and the engineering student, my daughter, says to watch out when combining electricity and water! Having an electronics background myself this sounds a bit risky to me too. Should something malfunction you may as well be sitting in a bathtub and toss in a plugged in hair dryer. You would get the same results. The built in GFI my pop before any damage is done, but that is no guarantee either. |
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« Reply #12 on: July 06, 2007, 08:28:20 AM » |
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Personally I have a hard time believing this thing would actually do anything of any benefit considering that the foot doesn't have the greatest amount of surface area or blood flow to it. Also I highly doubt that the water turning milky white or brown is from toxins leaving the body either. Sounds more like an interaction of the electricity with the minerals and salt in the water to me. I could not find on the site that they actually tested the water before or after treatment to tell what the composition change happened to be. I would think they would at the very least do this because then they could show that toxins were actually being released from the feet into the water.  |
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« Reply #13 on: July 06, 2007, 10:01:19 AM » |
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Personally I have a hard time believing this thing would actually do anything of any benefit considering that the foot doesn't have the greatest amount of surface area or blood flow to it.
Also I highly doubt that the water turning milky white or brown is from toxins leaving the body either. Sounds more like an interaction of the electricity with the minerals and salt in the water to me. I could not find on the site that they actually tested the water before or after treatment to tell what the composition change happened to be. I would think they would at the very least do this because then they could show that toxins were actually being released from the feet into the water. Good points didn't think about any of that. |
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« Reply #14 on: July 06, 2007, 09:18:11 PM » |
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The topic of this thread makes me think of that weird "Road to Wellness" movie with Matthew Broderick. . . .
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« Reply #15 on: July 14, 2007, 02:32:24 AM » |
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It might not be as far-fetched as it seems. My brother told me once that soaking in the sea was a mini-dialysis. When you think of it, after some hours in the sea, you can see your fingers wrinkled as if you have lost water. Who knows?
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« Reply #16 on: July 14, 2007, 06:03:11 AM » |
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Some medical texts call the skin 'the third kidney,' because the skin has a limited capacity to draw off toxins just the way the kidney does. As a result of this phenomenon, in the days before dialysis, renal patients used to die covered in what was called 'uremic frost,' which was the layer of toxins which had filtered out through the skin and covered the body.
For years the Russians have treated many diseases by immersing patients in mud baths, which supposedly operate by drawing off toxins through stimulating the capacity of the skin to act as a renal filter. Many people from the West still go to health spas in the Crimea and Causasus for this treatment.
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Chicken Little
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« Reply #17 on: July 14, 2007, 08:54:14 AM » |
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We excrete toxins through our sweat and I would guess that the Aqua Chi probably does pull something out. I'm not going to stick my feet in electrically charged water to find out though.
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Bajanne
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« Reply #18 on: July 15, 2007, 04:07:43 PM » |
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The beach is going to see me much more - it's summer time!
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« Reply #19 on: July 15, 2007, 04:18:49 PM » |
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The beach is going to see me much more - it's summer time!
And I bet those are some pretty beaches. |
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« Reply #20 on: July 28, 2007, 12:48:16 AM » |
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The beach is going to see me much more - it's summer time!
And I bet those are some pretty beaches.
They sure are - check out my Webshots albums - http://community.webshots.com/user/bajanne2000 |
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