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« Reply #175 on: October 03, 2008, 11:24:06 AM »


Heck if I can go to dialysis 9 hours a week , I'll definitely do 3 hours a week of exercise to reward myself ...


You only dialyze for three hours each treatment?

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Just the facts: 70.0 kgs. (about 154 lbs.)
Treatment: Tue-Thur-Sat   5.5 hours, 2x/wk, 6 hours, 1x/wk
Dialysate flow (Qd)=600;  Blood pump speed(Qb)=315
Fresenius Optiflux-180 filter--without reuse
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« Reply #176 on: October 03, 2008, 12:33:22 PM »

<<<<< Sexy whistle >>>> at Angela, Jbeany and Lucinda.  Congratulations!! keep up the good work!  :cuddle;

hey, sluff, what about me
I think about exercising all the time
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« Reply #177 on: October 07, 2008, 04:10:00 PM »

Hey I joined a gym last week. Mainly to putzz around in and play with the machines.  I really wanted access to the pool and the hot tub. Hehehehe!
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« Reply #178 on: October 07, 2008, 06:44:21 PM »


Heck if I can go to dialysis 9 hours a week , I'll definitely do 3 hours a week of exercise to reward myself ...


You only dialyze for three hours each treatment?

8)

Sooo far I do! But my URR , though it use to be 78 % , its now 71 % . But they  haven't runned me at full speed, but now i'm getting after them for not  :Kit n Stik;
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« Reply #179 on: October 07, 2008, 08:28:13 PM »

Hey I joined a gym last week. Mainly to putzz around in and play with the machines.  I really wanted access to the pool and the hot tub. Hehehehe!

oh baby now that's the kind of exercise I can totally dig!!!

 :shy;
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« Reply #180 on: October 07, 2008, 08:42:49 PM »

Julian...one thing about URR....in most centers it's done on a monthly basis which means it's based on your dialysis on that particular day. Mine had dropped to about 70 so, next lab day, I got the best nurse to stick me. I ran 500 for the full 3.5 hours and my URR came back at 92. Go figure.....
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« Reply #181 on: October 07, 2008, 08:49:50 PM »


Mine had dropped to about 70 so, next lab day, I got the best nurse to stick me. I ran 500 for the full 3.5 hours and my URR came back at 92. Go figure.....


But what about the rest of the month?

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No transplant.  Not yet, anyway.  Only decided to be listed on 11/9/06. Inactive at the moment.  ;)
I make films.

Just the facts: 70.0 kgs. (about 154 lbs.)
Treatment: Tue-Thur-Sat   5.5 hours, 2x/wk, 6 hours, 1x/wk
Dialysate flow (Qd)=600;  Blood pump speed(Qb)=315
Fresenius Optiflux-180 filter--without reuse
Fresenius 2008T dialysis machine
My KDOQI Nutrition (+/ -):  2,450 Calories, 84 grams Protein/day.

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« Reply #182 on: October 07, 2008, 09:15:12 PM »

Who knows, Zach? We only get labs once a month and the URR is dependent upon that one day. They draw a sample before dialysis and another one before you come off. Blood flow rate makes a huge difference.
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« Reply #183 on: October 08, 2008, 07:30:35 AM »

If a tree falls in the forest and no one is around to hear it does it make a sound?

I mean every treatment should be looked at as "lab day," not just once a month.  And we can't allow the staff (or ourselves) to slack off and cut our time or blood pump speed, just because it's not being measured.

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No transplant.  Not yet, anyway.  Only decided to be listed on 11/9/06. Inactive at the moment.  ;)
I make films.

Just the facts: 70.0 kgs. (about 154 lbs.)
Treatment: Tue-Thur-Sat   5.5 hours, 2x/wk, 6 hours, 1x/wk
Dialysate flow (Qd)=600;  Blood pump speed(Qb)=315
Fresenius Optiflux-180 filter--without reuse
Fresenius 2008T dialysis machine
My KDOQI Nutrition (+/ -):  2,450 Calories, 84 grams Protein/day.

"Living a life, not an apology."
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« Reply #184 on: October 08, 2008, 06:38:36 PM »

I went to the gym last night. I did 10 minutes on the bike. Ten laps or so in the pool. Sat in the hot tub, then did some of the machines 10 reps, then 10 reps more.  Not bad for the first time in a loooong time!
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« Reply #185 on: October 08, 2008, 06:42:36 PM »

Great Kitkatz.  It's hard to get back into but well worth it in the long run.
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Home haemo 1980-1985 (self-cannulated with 15 gauge sharps)
Cadaveric transplant 1985
New upper-arm fistula April 2008
Uldall-Cook catheter inserted May 2008
Haemo-dialysis, self care unit June 2008
(2 1/2 hours X 5 weekly)
Self-cannulated, 15 gauge blunts, buttonholes.
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« Reply #186 on: October 08, 2008, 06:44:35 PM »


I went to the gym last night. I did 10 minutes on the bike. Ten laps or so in the pool. Sat in the hot tub, then did some of the machines 10 reps, then 10 reps more.  Not bad for the first time in a loooong time!


That's really great, Kit!
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Uninterrupted in-center (self-care) hemodialysis since 1982 -- 34 YEARS on March 3, 2016 !!
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No transplant.  Not yet, anyway.  Only decided to be listed on 11/9/06. Inactive at the moment.  ;)
I make films.

Just the facts: 70.0 kgs. (about 154 lbs.)
Treatment: Tue-Thur-Sat   5.5 hours, 2x/wk, 6 hours, 1x/wk
Dialysate flow (Qd)=600;  Blood pump speed(Qb)=315
Fresenius Optiflux-180 filter--without reuse
Fresenius 2008T dialysis machine
My KDOQI Nutrition (+/ -):  2,450 Calories, 84 grams Protein/day.

"Living a life, not an apology."
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« Reply #187 on: October 08, 2008, 10:05:56 PM »

Go, kit, go!

I've been slacking off this week.  My labs are all still screwy from para surgery, apparently, and all I want to do is sleep.  My hemoglobin bottomed out, which makes me wonder how much blood I actually lost.  I'm back up almost to 10, so that helps, but I still seem to be getting dizzy when I run, so the few times I've made it as far as my treadmill, all I've done is putz along at a walk.
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« Reply #188 on: October 19, 2008, 02:39:22 PM »

I went last Wednesday to the gym.

I also went today Sunday.
20 minutes on the bike, 10 minutes on the treadmill.
A few workout moves 15 reps on a few machines.5 laps in the pool.
15 minutes in the hot tub.

I feel pretty good!
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Remember your present situation is not your final destination.

Take it one day, one hour, one minute, one second at a time.

"If we don't find a way out of this soon, I'm gonna lose it. Lose it... It means go crazy, nuts, insane, bonzo, no longer in possession of ones faculties, three fries short of a Happy Meal, wacko!" Jack O'Neill - SG-1
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« Reply #189 on: October 19, 2008, 05:12:20 PM »

you rock KK...

but I want to know... how do I get time in the hot tub????

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« Reply #190 on: October 19, 2008, 05:25:30 PM »

Ya gots to come to California!
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Remember your present situation is not your final destination.

Take it one day, one hour, one minute, one second at a time.

"If we don't find a way out of this soon, I'm gonna lose it. Lose it... It means go crazy, nuts, insane, bonzo, no longer in possession of ones faculties, three fries short of a Happy Meal, wacko!" Jack O'Neill - SG-1
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« Reply #191 on: October 19, 2008, 05:29:34 PM »

Ya gots to come to California!

Yeah I wish they could all be California Girls!!! LOL

I don't think hubby would approve of me being in the hot tub with YOU! hehehehee 
(and I don't think Paris would approve either... on behalf of alohabeth!!)


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25/7/2006: Started hemo 3x/week 5 hour sessions :(
27/11/2010: Cadaveric kidney transplant from my wonderful donor!!! "Danny" currently settling in and working better every day!!! :)

BE POSITIVE * BE INFORMED * BE PROACTIVE * BE IN CONTROL * LIVE LIFE!
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« Reply #192 on: October 26, 2008, 04:17:02 AM »

The New York Times had a very good article on exercise.

FITNESS
Workout Regimens You Can Live With

October 23, 2008

By JOHN HANC
SWIM, bike, run, rake leaves. Climb monkey bars if you’re a child, do water aerobics if you’re older. Do whatever you like. Just keep moving.

That, in essence, is the message of the physical activity guidelines announced this month by the federal Department of Health and Human Services. The basic recommendations — including the core guideline that Americans should get about 150 minutes of moderately intense activity per week — have not really changed from the ones announced in 1996 by the surgeon general’s office.

What is different is the emphasis on the variety of activities — including daily chores — that can reap the profound health benefits of exercise.

There is no “one size fits all.” Instead, the guidelines are broken into specific recommendations for adults, children, people over 65 and others. And while sustained aerobic activities are the foundation, there are other types of activities — muscle-building and flexibility-enhancing — that are also important.

Here are some ideas on filling your own exercise prescription...

For more of the article:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/23/health/nutrition/23fitness.html?ref=health

There is also very good info and videos in the article presented by the American College of Sports Medicine called, THE KEYS TO EXERCISE SUCCESS.
http://www.myexerciseplan.com/assessment/

Good health to all.

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No transplant.  Not yet, anyway.  Only decided to be listed on 11/9/06. Inactive at the moment.  ;)
I make films.

Just the facts: 70.0 kgs. (about 154 lbs.)
Treatment: Tue-Thur-Sat   5.5 hours, 2x/wk, 6 hours, 1x/wk
Dialysate flow (Qd)=600;  Blood pump speed(Qb)=315
Fresenius Optiflux-180 filter--without reuse
Fresenius 2008T dialysis machine
My KDOQI Nutrition (+/ -):  2,450 Calories, 84 grams Protein/day.

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« Reply #193 on: October 26, 2008, 03:59:58 PM »

Ya gots to come to California!

Yeah I wish they could all be California Girls!!! LOL

I don't think hubby would approve of me being in the hot tub with YOU! hehehehee
(and I don't think Paris would approve either... on behalf of alohabeth!!)



 :shy;

Hey--don't forget the Carolina Girls!  In nine days, Beth will be off that mountain and have internet access.  Then she can see what has been going on behind her back!! 

Nice article, Zach.  - - back on topic  :rofl;
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« Reply #194 on: October 26, 2008, 04:54:46 PM »

I guess I'm not alone on the exercise issue. I don't feel well enough after dialysis to exercise. It is worse that day, but the fatigue lasts until about mid-day the next day. It is a cycle b/c the day after that is dialysis day again. On non-dialysis days I begin to feel better by that afternoon and that is when I use the energy to run errands. That is about all the exercise my body can handle. With the circulation problems in my leg after my graft surgery, being up and about more than a couple of hours causes alot of swelling in my knee and the foot turns purple. I was going to PT for awhile and slow but steady exercises helped somewhat - nothing too strenuous though. I just don't have the get-up-and-go I used to have and I have never had much strength or stamina. I would love to be able to get into a routine that didn't just totally wash me out and hang me out to dry. Any suggestions on building up my strength and taking off the extra fluid? My fluid always gathers in the legs and around my waist. One day it was so bad that a waitress asked me when the baby was due!!!   :o  It upset me terribly. I envy those of you who can work and/or exercise   :bow;
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« Reply #195 on: October 26, 2008, 05:01:45 PM »

When I can't get to the gym I've started doing a half hour jogging on the spot, broken up with jumping jacks and then ten minutes stretching.  I work up a fair sweat and my calves hurt today from yesterday's bouncing around.  The main purpose is to put some pressure on my bones as I've lost some bone density since losing this kidney transplant.

My husband thinks I'm now totally cuckoo.


graftgurl, just read your post as I was about to post this one.  Don't be too hard on yourself but do try to do what you can by starting very slowly then building up.  I mean ten minutes to start with. What you don't want to do is get to hate the idea of exercise and that can happen easily if you try to do too much.  My workout is less now than when I had a functioning trx but it is way better than pre-dialysis and I'll build as far as I can.
Simple walking and the some yoga type stretches would be a good start.  And light weights are good too.
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Home haemo 1980-1985 (self-cannulated with 15 gauge sharps)
Cadaveric transplant 1985
New upper-arm fistula April 2008
Uldall-Cook catheter inserted May 2008
Haemo-dialysis, self care unit June 2008
(2 1/2 hours X 5 weekly)
Self-cannulated, 15 gauge blunts, buttonholes.
Living donor transplant (sister-in law Kathy) Feb. 2009
First failed kidney transplant removed Apr.  2009
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« Reply #196 on: October 26, 2008, 05:38:00 PM »

woohoo 9 days till beth is back!!! :)

almost in time for my birthday (hint, hint)  :clap;
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27/11/2010: Cadaveric kidney transplant from my wonderful donor!!! "Danny" currently settling in and working better every day!!! :)

BE POSITIVE * BE INFORMED * BE PROACTIVE * BE IN CONTROL * LIVE LIFE!
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« Reply #197 on: October 26, 2008, 05:41:41 PM »

I guess I'm not alone on the exercise issue. I don't feel well enough after dialysis to exercise. It is worse that day, but the fatigue lasts until about mid-day the next day. It is a cycle b/c the day after that is dialysis day again. On non-dialysis days I begin to feel better by that afternoon and that is when I use the energy to run errands. That is about all the exercise my body can handle. With the circulation problems in my leg after my graft surgery, being up and about more than a couple of hours causes alot of swelling in my knee and the foot turns purple. I was going to PT for awhile and slow but steady exercises helped somewhat - nothing too strenuous though. I just don't have the get-up-and-go I used to have and I have never had much strength or stamina. I would love to be able to get into a routine that didn't just totally wash me out and hang me out to dry. Any suggestions on building up my strength and taking off the extra fluid? My fluid always gathers in the legs and around my waist. One day it was so bad that a waitress asked me when the baby was due!!!   :o  It upset me terribly. I envy those of you who can work and/or exercise   :bow;

That's why I posted the article, to give tips on how to start slowly and build up gradually. The videos are very helpful.

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No transplant.  Not yet, anyway.  Only decided to be listed on 11/9/06. Inactive at the moment.  ;)
I make films.

Just the facts: 70.0 kgs. (about 154 lbs.)
Treatment: Tue-Thur-Sat   5.5 hours, 2x/wk, 6 hours, 1x/wk
Dialysate flow (Qd)=600;  Blood pump speed(Qb)=315
Fresenius Optiflux-180 filter--without reuse
Fresenius 2008T dialysis machine
My KDOQI Nutrition (+/ -):  2,450 Calories, 84 grams Protein/day.

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« Reply #198 on: November 10, 2008, 12:09:04 PM »

I have a treadmill in my kitchen,lol for the wnter months. i do a lot of outdoor walking in the warmer months. I ride my bike also. i live alone so I do all the household chores also. I lifts weights sometimes. I have an AV Graft in my abdomen so i cant do any crunches and get a sexy six pack. I feel that when i do some walking right after dialysis my energy level stays up the rest of the day
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1991: right and left clavicle temporary catheters
1991: catheter for PD
1992:transplant
1998: June, Fistula placement
1998: july, back to dialysis,Hemo
1999: transplanted kidney removed
2001: parathyroidism
2006:march, fstula cant be fixed due to too many stents in damaged vessels caused by temp caths
2006: april, Pd catheter placement
 PD would not drain properly
2006: finally after much pain and misery, AV Graft placed in abdomen, its working fine thank god
Quit dialysis sometime in 2009, had a change of heart and  returned before I died
transferred waiting list time to another city/state and was transplanted almost right away August 9,2013
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« Reply #199 on: December 10, 2008, 03:46:36 PM »

 :bump;

Time to move my butt!

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No transplant.  Not yet, anyway.  Only decided to be listed on 11/9/06. Inactive at the moment.  ;)
I make films.

Just the facts: 70.0 kgs. (about 154 lbs.)
Treatment: Tue-Thur-Sat   5.5 hours, 2x/wk, 6 hours, 1x/wk
Dialysate flow (Qd)=600;  Blood pump speed(Qb)=315
Fresenius Optiflux-180 filter--without reuse
Fresenius 2008T dialysis machine
My KDOQI Nutrition (+/ -):  2,450 Calories, 84 grams Protein/day.

"Living a life, not an apology."
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