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« on: May 04, 2018, 11:14:38 AM »

I added another recipe to my Low Phosphorus website :) , this time for French Toast: https://mylowphosdiet.wordpress.com/ppr-french-toast/
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« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2018, 11:54:36 AM »

Jammie , there I learned something again: lower phos in yoghurt with water? Now I've always done that as we don't have milk in the house (ever) after learning how much 'meat product' is allowed in milk.


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« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2018, 12:30:28 PM »

Yea, Cassandra! It's a Greek yogurt thing, because a good bit of liquid whey is drained off regular yogurt to make Greek style, and the whey carries off some of the phosphorus but leaves behind the protein. I like using this a whole lot better than using a substitute like Almond milk because of the protein.
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« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2018, 01:37:48 PM »

Jammie , there I learned something again: lower phos in yoghurt with water? Now I've always done that as we don't have milk in the house (ever) after learning how much 'meat product' is allowed in milk.


Thanx Marilee


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Some years ago a medical article pointed out a very high amount of hormones found in "ordinary" cows milk. Since reading this we only drink Almond milk... It is quite amazing what we have to learn over the years in order to survive as intact as is possible  ...
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« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2018, 02:34:10 PM »

Substituting Almond Milk for the Greek yogurt-and-water works fine, recipe-wise: It's just about 3 grams less protein per recipe (1.5 grams per serving).
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« Reply #5 on: May 05, 2018, 03:34:14 AM »

Growing up we used to have what mother and grandmother called "Egg Dip". This was basically french toast but with the bread cut into fingers (soldiers) before soaking into the egg mix, then when cooked the fingers were covered in tomato ketchup. As a result, I like to cover french toast with a thick layer of ketchup, so although you recipe is a great idea, I dare not try it because of the quantity of both phosphorus and potassium in the ketchup.
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« Reply #6 on: May 05, 2018, 05:26:00 AM »

Oh, Paul, I really enjoyed the mental image I got of your mom's little soldiers. Too bad about the huge amount of ketchup, though. I imagine making ketchup from bell peppers (I saw a link to a recipe in an older post here) doesn't do the job, especially when dealing with a childhood memory: My mom's butter cookies have to be just precisely the right size, color, flavor, etc. or they're just wrong.
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« Reply #7 on: May 05, 2018, 11:38:46 AM »

I wasn't going to admit this, but right up to the time I had to stop eating it, I still always cut it into soldiers before dunking it.
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« Reply #8 on: May 05, 2018, 12:12:22 PM »

Well, yeah you do (did)!

Some fast food places here sell French Toast pre-cut that way, too, but they call 'em "Fingers" or "Sticks" https://www.bk.com/menu-item/french-toast-sticks, so customers can eat 'em with their hands. Maybe your mom should have gotten royalties or commissions or something. ;)
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« Reply #9 on: May 05, 2018, 12:42:54 PM »

Maybe your mom should have gotten royalties or commissions or something. ;)

Well my grandmother actually, she created the recipe as a way to make best use of rationed foods during and after the war. She had never heard of "french toast" but coincidentally came up with a similar recipe out of necessity (bread dipped in just egg and milk seasoned with just pepper and salt - none of the other flavourings). I wonder if the original recipe was created to combat some food shortage, all I know is that it is not French, it was created by the Romans.
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« Reply #10 on: May 05, 2018, 12:54:23 PM »

Yeah, since bread would go stale quickly, it was a good way to get another day's meal out of a few slices.

Hey, I just checked Wikipedia, and while they mention versions of this toast in Spain, France, the US and Hong Kong, they have missed your grandmother's history (they did mention Ketchup, however). Maybe you need to give the ol' Wiki an edit ? :D
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« Reply #11 on: May 05, 2018, 02:57:14 PM »

 :secret; You guys didn't hear this from me (hee, hee) but I heard that if you're good about your renal diet a little ketchup now and then isn't catastrophic. I use to make a ketchup sauce that included brown sugar and red vinegar. Then I said, "hey, wait a minute" and realized it really wasn't that much better for hubby than real ketchup. He's very good about sticking to a renal diet. A little ketchup on his meatloaf hasn't affected his labs and has sure gone a long way towards his happiness and my sanity. A bit of ketchup on your soldiers I don't think will be bad. Probably depends on how much potassium you have for the ENTIRE day. Well, that's one way of looking at it.  ;D
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