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« on: January 08, 2016, 10:43:09 PM »

I am back....after a five-year break from corresponding with this community1     I left in the heat of conversations regarding the intent of my partner to travel to Mexico to receive stem cells.  He  was in the end stage of renal failure and waiting for a transplant.  Yes, I may have been a dreamer but to my delight I am reporting back to say that his outcome of placental stem cells was a remarkable positive experience.  Not only has he been removed from the dialysis as he also is no longer on the transplant list.  I so hope those who so adamantly opposed of his plans and scoffed at the credibility of stem cells will gain some heart to the outcome of my partner's experience.  Keep the faith !!
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« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2016, 02:45:48 AM »

Thank you Everlasting for your update and I do hope your partner continues to do well.
... I have been reading (and trying to understand) a few medical papers on the latest ESRF-treatment, but so far
I have not come across - or read about - any positive success with stem-cell-treatment on ESRF-patients ...
Could you please tell me where to locate medical papers etc. written about successful stem-cell-treatment in ESRF
by doctors/specialists in Mexico who treated your partner ?
Many thanks from Kristina.
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« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2016, 11:15:09 AM »


Truely amazing that he is doing so well.  Please, details would be very nice to learn more about his treatment.

It doesn't surprise me that another Country is leading the way with an alternative treatment.   The U.S. with the different Departments places many stumbling blocks, measures limiting Dr's research into alternative treatments of most every disease.

Far too many lives are yet to be lost before the U.S. Government learns that only through research and trials will we ever make serious progress in defeating diseases.
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« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2016, 04:34:25 AM »

I am back....after a five-year break from corresponding with this community1     I left in the heat of conversations regarding the intent of my partner to travel to Mexico to receive stem cells.  He  was in the end stage of renal failure and waiting for a transplant.  Yes, I may have been a dreamer but to my delight I am reporting back to say that his outcome of placental stem cells was a remarkable positive experience.  Not only has he been removed from the dialysis as he also is no longer on the transplant list.  I so hope those who so adamantly opposed of his plans and scoffed at the credibility of stem cells will gain some heart to the outcome of my partner's experience.  Keep the faith !!
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That is certainly spectacular news Everlasting and I am so glad to hear of something like this. I am someone who also would like to believe that stem cell medical research may provide the answer in the near future. I would really appreciate it if you could provide any further details about this successful treatment. The internet is rife with miraculous stories about cures that have no basis in reality, so any information about evidence would help enormously.
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« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2016, 06:47:20 AM »

Thank you so much Everlasting for sharing your experience!    Your success story brought back a sparkle of hope as I have looked into several of the hospitals abroad that offered stem cell treatments for kidney disease and shied away after not finding any success stories from those treatment facilities including the one in Mexico.   I was further discouraged by negative outcomes posted by patients who wrote about their experiences.   Then nytimes wrote an article about stem cells treatments abroad:
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/10/health/stem-cell-treatments-overtake-science.html?_r=0

I am not into conspiracies, but wonder if lack of progress in the US is due to the powers that be maybe standing in the way as they stand to make lots of money from keeping us ill for the rest of our lives?   The research is out there, scientists  have grown human organs.  In 1968 the first successful bone marrow transplant was done:  http://learn.genetics.utah.edu/content/stemcells/sctoday/

and in 1868 "the term cell" was used in scientific literature:  http://stemcell.childrenshospital.org/about-stem-cells/history/

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« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2016, 07:47:13 PM »

Perhaps this might be a good place to share something my Nephrologist has shared with me about stem cell treatments in less developed countries. He has one patient who went to China for stem cell treatment in 2014 but who came back with very weird symptoms. At first I believe his kidney function results were temporarily improved (which can be a false temporary result) but he rapidly deteriorated and ended up on dialysis. My Neph and the hospital didn't even know how to treat his symptoms and electrolyte imbalances and all calls that my Neph made to the facility in China went unanswered.

It would seem that not only are these treatments normally unsuccessful but the people who run these alternative clinics do not even accept responsibility for the damage they may cause.

I have spoken to a leading stem cell researchers who has advised me that we are many many years away from any human clinical trials in modern medicine.
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« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2016, 10:22:18 AM »

HOW does this work without a transplant?? Once your nephrons die they're gone FOREVER! If your kidneys are so dead that they don't produce urine you cannot magically make them produce urine again. Unless this person still has at least 20% or so kidney function left and the treatment helps his kidneys temporarily.  But you'd think eventually he'd need a transplant or go back on dialysis.
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« Reply #7 on: March 12, 2016, 04:31:46 PM »

Any updates on this post?
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« Reply #8 on: March 14, 2016, 01:23:07 PM »

Any updates on this post?

I have been wondering about updates as well, but unfortunately,
Everlasting tells us about stem-cell-treatment-successes, but does not give us the names of the stem-cell-specialists who so successfully treated her partner,
so that her partner not only can avoid dialysis - thanks to stem-cell-treatment - but also does not need to be on the kidney-transplant-waiting-list any longer ...
... Despite my curiosity, I have not yet located doctors who give successful stem-cell-treatment for ESRF-patients, so that these patients can avoid dialyis-treatment, nor have I detected anything helpful about stem-cell-treatment-successes in ESRF in any national newspaper...
... I could well imagine that ESRF-stemcell-treatment-successes would be great news everywhere and would be something every single country in the whole world
would be most interested to know more about ... ?
Hopefully Everlasting comes back to us soon and tells us all about this stem-cell-treatment and also gives us the names of doctors who are able to give stem-cell-treatment to ESRF-dialysis-patients so that these patients can avoid dialysis-treatment instantly and no longer need to be hopefuls on the kidney-translplant-waiting-list?

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