A huge NxStage risk (speaking from an investment, not a medical, perspective) is the Fresenius PAK (Portable Artificial Kidney). The PAK appears to be sorbent technology small system similar to NxStage, but reportedly capable of generating URRs on par with the conventional machines like the 2008K and BabyK.
The NxStage will now get up to 300 ml/min dialysate which if you look at the dialysate flow curves, it is on the plateau section of the curve and approximates in-center clearances.
My wife gets 63% URR on 5 day per week NxStage at 30 liters dialysate. It is just about the same as in center now. If we needed better clearance we could raise the amount of dialysate. We dont run that fast either. Blood flow 340 , dailysate 10 liters per hour.
We do 3 hours . It can be done faster or slower based on settings on machine. There is some flexibility.
Quote from: obsidianom on January 12, 2014, 03:09:03 AMWe do 3 hours . It can be done faster or slower based on settings on machine. There is some flexibility.You are doing a great job of getting me interested in NxStage. I've been told to expect 45% URR with 3 hours; you are seeing 63%. I'm going to ask for pre/post BUN labs with my test drive so I see what I get. Thanks for the info.
I am pushing my doc to let me go nocturnal, but he says that has to wait until Fresenius has real time monitoring in place - which is supposedly "soon".
If you look at another way of calculating dialysis adaquacy put out a few years ago, it takes the number of days per week squared times hours per day. A "good adaquacy"would be around 60 to 80 and higher.
I'm hoping to see Nocturnal become more available. I had to move to a clinic 2.5 hours away in order to Nocturnal NxStage. That clinic's standard procedure is to run the blood pump at 400, which I did while using 60 liters of dialysate over 8 hours. I did 5 or 6 days a week (6 days is 288 using the above formula).I believe one nephrologist up at the local hospital is trying to get in-center nocturnal and another is looking to get Nocturnal NxStage. I'm sure part of problem/delay is the Medicare issue. The new transplant surgeon told me that Nocturnal is the way to go. Maybe he'll have some influence to get the ball rolling...
Quote from: obsidianom on January 13, 2014, 12:40:12 PMIf you look at another way of calculating dialysis adaquacy put out a few years ago, it takes the number of days per week squared times hours per day. A "good adaquacy"would be around 60 to 80 and higher. By that measure, I'm hitting 60 exactly. One thing that is frustrating about treatment is the widespread acceptance of mediocrity from even the so called "good" doctors. Patients on 3x/in center are not even told how woefully inadequate the treatment is. I'm on "conventional home" and I believe I would be on 3x rather than EOD if I had not brought the subject up with my doc - who was most supportive once I asked. Maybe there is an unwritten rule among docs "do not disrupt the status quo".
Dr. Agar is the global king of nocturnal dialysis, in my very humble opinion. My conversations with him have always been so incredibly enlightening.Let's face it. Healthcare philosophy in the US has always been reactive as opposed to being preventative. What we don't seem to understand (or what Medicare doesn't understand) is that 3xweekly incenter dialysis causes expensive problems. What we think we save in dialysis costs we more that doubly spend on treating the problems that this modality causes. It's stupid.
The good news that I suspect your medical team is unaware perhaps is that the FDA approved a NxStage system upgrade in April that should change medical practice for ALL NxStage patients but has not had any real impact to date. In this, the NxStage System One highflow will now be able to run a dialysate flow rate of 300 ml/min or 18 liters/hour.
QuoteThe good news that I suspect your medical team is unaware perhaps is that the FDA approved a NxStage system upgrade in April that should change medical practice for ALL NxStage patients but has not had any real impact to date. In this, the NxStage System One highflow will now be able to run a dialysate flow rate of 300 ml/min or 18 liters/hour.I wonder how the economic practicalities will play out - there are a lot of 12 liter NxStage units out there, and I would expect that there would be some resistance to replacing all of these with 18 litre units, since either (a) NxStage will not be able to charge extra for this, thus creating an incentive for NxStage to limit availability, or (b) NxStage will be allowed to charge clinics extra, thus creating clinic level resistance.