Nope, this is an honorable and brave man filled duty and honor. Your criticisms are unfounded and offensive. But that is the way things go on IHD.http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-3445_162-6837189/a-blind-army-officers-challenging-vision/
Quote from: Hemodoc on August 19, 2013, 12:33:01 PMNope, this is an honorable and brave man filled duty and honor. Your criticisms are unfounded and offensive. But that is the way things go on IHD.http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-3445_162-6837189/a-blind-army-officers-challenging-vision/Thank you for this link, Hemodoc, but this does not seem to address the issue at hand, which is this soldier's claim (and yours) that an active duty member of the military is prohibited from wearing his/her uniform to church.Again, I am extremely disappointed that such a brave man, who has overcome many obstacles just as many of us here on IHD (of which you were so dismissive) have done, would resort to lying. But you know what? I'm going to be charitable and withdraw my accusation of "liar". That's a harsh indictment, and I don't have any proof that this lie originated with him. Instead, I will assert that he is perpetuating a lie, and why such an honorable man would do that is simply beyond me. The fact that he has a new book out, though, gives me a clue.And you have perpetuated this lie, also, claiming that your First Amendment rights are "under attack". That's hyperbolic, and the "proof" you have provided has been shown as untrue. I've always thought you've at least tried to be honorable, and I know that anyone who advocates for dialysis patients while undergoing something as life-changing as home hemo is brave, so why an honorable and brave man like yourself would choose to engage is this form of political and hysterical Chinese Whispers is mystifying to me. But that is the way things go on IHD.
The list continues to grow against Christians exercising the constitutional right to believe in things such as marriage between a man and woman. San Antonio is once again putting forth and "antidiscrimination" ban against those who voice opposition against gay marriage among other issues. The ordinance does not provide an exemption for religion.http://www.ktrh.com/articles/houston-news-121300/christians-face-possible-ban-from-san-11538157/California is considering a similar law that would remove the tax exempt status for the Boy Scouts and other organizations that have banned openly gay leaders and recently reversed the ban on openly gay scouts.http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/08/28/california-tax-exempt-boy-scouts/The church will not bend on this issue. Not that we have not known this was coming. The Bible warned of this over 2000 years ago. It is sad to see America swapping the traditional Judeo-Christian values for that of Sodom and Gomorrah. I guess twerking will fit in well with this new America.
Quote from: Hemodoc on August 28, 2013, 10:58:22 PMThe list continues to grow against Christians exercising the constitutional right to believe in things such as marriage between a man and woman. San Antonio is once again putting forth and "antidiscrimination" ban against those who voice opposition against gay marriage among other issues. The ordinance does not provide an exemption for religion.http://www.ktrh.com/articles/houston-news-121300/christians-face-possible-ban-from-san-11538157/California is considering a similar law that would remove the tax exempt status for the Boy Scouts and other organizations that have banned openly gay leaders and recently reversed the ban on openly gay scouts.http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/08/28/california-tax-exempt-boy-scouts/The church will not bend on this issue. Not that we have not known this was coming. The Bible warned of this over 2000 years ago. It is sad to see America swapping the traditional Judeo-Christian values for that of Sodom and Gomorrah. I guess twerking will fit in well with this new America.Christians may believe anything they want, as can any other religious people. They may NOT force their beliefs on others by keeping them from marrying whomever they wish or receiving special treatent (non-profit status) for promoting those beliefs.
The list continues to grow against Christians exercising the constitutional right to believe in things such as marriage between a man and woman. San Antonio is once again putting forth and "antidiscrimination" ban against those who voice opposition against gay marriage among other issues. The ordinance does not provide an exemption for religion.http://www.ktrh.com/articles/houston-news-121300/christians-face-possible-ban-from-san-11538157/
California is considering a similar law that would remove the tax exempt status for the Boy Scouts and other organizations that have banned openly gay leaders and recently reversed the ban on openly gay scouts.http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/08/28/california-tax-exempt-boy-scouts/
The church will not bend on this issue. Not that we have not known this was coming. The Bible warned of this over 2000 years ago. It is sad to see America swapping the traditional Judeo-Christian values for that of Sodom and Gomorrah. I guess twerking will fit in well with this new America.
Do you also oppose the right to free speech that would also be harmed by the San Antonio provision.
Lastly, if you wish to gain a true understanding of the book of Revelation, send me a pm.
Quote from: Hemodoc on August 29, 2013, 09:53:57 PMDo you also oppose the right to free speech that would also be harmed by the San Antonio provision. Again, you make wild unsupported accusations, with nothing to back them up. If you can give a single example of someone being arrested for speech under the existing ordinance in San Antonio, you would have a point. But it doesn't prohibit speech.QuoteLastly, if you wish to gain a true understanding of the book of Revelation, send me a pm. I've been reading real Biblical scholarship for years, so I'm not sure what you could add.The Revelation is simple political polemic against an unpopular Roman emperor. For example, that's why there are so many references to seven - the author must remind you over and over and over that it's really Rome he's talking about. It's as if I wrote a story about a dumb cowboy president who bumbles around and eventually sets off a nuclear war. Alll of my contemporaries would know who and what I was talking about - but if my story survived for a few hundred years, it would start to sound pretty strange. Most early churches did not consider the book inspired or canonical.
Ahhhh, you are a preterist.
Likewise, anyone who wishes to run for political office in San Antonio and openly opposes gay marriage based on a religious belief has the right to have that belief and speak openly about that and still run
and hold political office.
It is not the current law that is at issue my friend
Quote from: Hemodoc on August 30, 2013, 02:23:18 PMIt is not the current law that is at issue my friendIt is exactly the current law that is at issue. All the proposal does is add sexual orientation, gender identity, and veteran status to the list in the current law.Your statements about the proposal are simply false.
I have been reading this unending conversation. All I can say is your rights end where my rights begain.
I do not wish to, nor will I debate this but Canada has NOT declared the Bible hate speech. The recent ruling was far more nuanced and subtle and referenced vilifying comments that quoted a respected source, The Bible, in such a way as to incite hatred. It is one thing to quote biblical text of any kind it is quite another to equate homosexuals with pedophiles.
The last I heard was the military (Pentagon) wants all personnel to wear class A uniforms to all public events, which would include religious services. Every funeral you see involving the military has class A uniform requirements. Fatigue uniforms are for all other activities, such as war. No one could get away with imposing some dress code law on military personnel.
Quote from: rocker on August 30, 2013, 02:51:55 PMQuote from: Hemodoc on August 30, 2013, 02:23:18 PMIt is not the current law that is at issue my friendIt is exactly the current law that is at issue. All the proposal does is add sexual orientation, gender identity, and veteran status to the list in the current law.Your statements about the proposal are simply false.Oh boy, you are way off base. It is the sexual orientation, gender identity that is at issue in the PROPOSED changes to the law that is at issue as the news article above denotes.
The officer in question on the Huckabee show stated it was a written memorandum all were required to sign.
QuoteThe officer in question on the Huckabee show stated it was a written memorandum all were required to sign.So we go back to what Moosemom stated earlier: that without evidence other than this man's word, one must wonder about his motives in sharing this. Evidence refuting his statement has been offered by others in this thread. Where is the evidence that what he said is true?