centers cutting patient times when it's not even our fault

[sullidog]

Hi all,
The other day My time was cut short not to me being late, but the dialysis center running behind, is this practice? The FA says time has to be cut short when either the patients are running late, or the dialysis staff is running behind which delays patients to get on in time. The same thing happened to me one other time when the techs and nurses had a meeting when putting me on.
Why should we have to  have to have our times cut when centers are running late, I understand when patients run late but when the center runs late and blames us is just plain wrong!
Troy

[Epofriend]

Sullidog,

They are messing with the nephrologists's prescription for your dialysis. They can't do that. First, insist that you run for your full time - my prescribed time is 2hrs 45min, I expect to be run for that time. Should that fail, make the nephrologist aware of the situation. Be sure that he/she knows that it is not because you were late.

At 2hrs 45min any loss of time is very significant. 

[lmunchkin]

You need to insist on your full time of dialysis!  Sullidog, if you don't it could be some very serious consequenses for you!  Make them tow the line or talk to your neph, please!!!!!

Look into NxStage if you can, that way you will be in control of your health!!!

lmunchkin     

[Ang]

make some noise with the kidney association


go to the media

[Pam]

That is why I am on the first group called in. I hate having to be there so early, 6:30, but if the first shift gets started late it's not the patients fault. In 2 yrs we have run 15 min late but that was because of a water problem.

From reading about all of the problems you have had it seems to me that if it is possible you need to change centers as soon as you can!
Pam

[lmunchkin]

What has been the latest on this situation, Sully?  Apparently, you got them straightened out!  Those In-Centers can be so aggravating!  I know that not all are bad, but the clinic my hubby goe too is FANTASTIC!  It's called "OUR HOME"! Yeeee Haw!!!!  Thank God for giving me the guts to learn and stick it out with my sweet husband!  He deserves it!!!

How was this resolved, Sullidog!  Did you go to the Director, Neph or what? I am curious to know, so that if anyone else has this problem, it may help them too!!

Bless you,

lmunchkin     

[gothiclovemonkey]

hmm Do u go to davita? lol
sounds alot like the davita i went to! they did that, and i also had a nurse take me off early because she wanted to go home early....
and they would be hours behind,, one time i was there a total of 6 hours and my treatment time was only 3 hrs.

[sullidog]

No I don't but I've had that as an excuse too.

[Donnie]

What do you want to bet they are charging your insurance full cost!   That's called FRAUD, you know?

And Fresenius just paid an 82 million dollar fine for medicare fraud!  Look into it!   

[iKAZ3D]

I love how your centers are willy nilly. My center is "run four hours, no exception", "come in at this time only, no changing, no choosing", "Oh, you have an event you want to go to? Let me do the best I can to inconvenience you as much as possible no matter how in advance you ask", "You're requesting to come in tomorrow instead of your scheduled day due to lack of health? Ok, but come in anyway so we can assess you", "You post a picture on Facebook? Let me invade that and place you on Suicide Watch even though the picture has no indication of a desire to commit suicide", "You express your opinions on Hospital Facebook page? We make big p*cking deal about it".

Children's Units suck.

[NDXUFan]

What do you want to bet they are charging your insurance full cost!   That's called FRAUD, you know?

And Fresenius just paid an 82 million dollar fine for medicare fraud!  Look into it!   

NDXUFan:
I would keep records and have your fellow patients do the same to back you up, do it for each other and then call the State Department of Health or Medicare and they will force the unit to produce the records or they will get them by court order.  By the way, if they have any smart ideas, witness intimidation is a FELONY. 

[Simon Dog]

What has been the latest on this situation, Sully?  Apparently, you got them straightened out!  Those In-Centers can be so aggravating!  I know that not all are bad, but the clinic my hubby goe too is FANTASTIC!  It's called "OUR HOME"! Yeeee Haw!!!!

The just opened a clinic up one flight of stairs from my kitchen; single patient; any on time I want 

[Krisna]

I do my treatment late so I'm one of the last people out.  They give me the choice of either running my full treatment of cutting it short, regardless of whose fault it is.  I usually do the full time.

[KAF454]

I had the late start thing this morning at 0500. DaVita gave me the choice to terminate at my normal time or stay for the full treatment.

[Simon Dog]

Let me invade that and place you on Suicide Watch

Putting a dialysis patient on suicide watch is just plain silly.    ESRD gives one the legal option of suicide at any time (discontinuing treatment), and unlike "traditional suicide", the government cannot intervene with force to prevent that particular individual choice.   In effect, ESRD can be thought of as a license to commit legal suicide at any time.

[gothiclovemonkey]

Let me invade that and place you on Suicide Watch

Putting a dialysis patient on suicide watch is just plain silly.    ESRD gives one the legal option of suicide at any time (discontinuing treatment), and unlike "traditional suicide", the government cannot intervene with force to prevent that particular individual choice.   In effect, ESRD can be thought of as a license to commit legal suicide at any time.

when I was first starting on dialysis (i was 23 at the time) I was having aparticularly bad treatment, on top of a generally bad day, then i got a phone call that made it a horrible day, and i just wanted off the machine. So, they call over the social worker, who asks me whats wrong, i tell her I am tired of being here, im having a crap day, and this treatment sucks lol They didnt agree, and told me i couldnt, because its dangerous, etc. I said I know, I am fully aware of that, but I want off, its my choice if I dont want to do this anymore, I dont have to...... (bad idea to use that choice phrase) So, long story short, she ends up threatening to call the police and have me 'observed' in a psych ward, because legally they can do that, anyone can. So needless to say, I wound up in a psych ward, told the dr what was going on. The doctor, after he stopped laughing, sent me home.

[NDXUFan]

Let me invade that and place you on Suicide Watch

Putting a dialysis patient on suicide watch is just plain silly.    ESRD gives one the legal option of suicide at any time (discontinuing treatment), and unlike "traditional suicide", the government cannot intervene with force to prevent that particular individual choice.   In effect, ESRD can be thought of as a license to commit legal suicide at any time.

when I was first starting on dialysis (i was 23 at the time) I was having aparticularly bad treatment, on top of a generally bad day, then i got a phone call that made it a horrible day, and i just wanted off the machine. So, they call over the social worker, who asks me whats wrong, i tell her I am tired of being here, im having a crap day, and this treatment sucks lol They didnt agree, and told me i couldnt, because its dangerous, etc. I said I know, I am fully aware of that, but I want off, its my choice if I dont want to do this anymore, I dont have to...... (bad idea to use that choice phrase) So, long story short, she ends up threatening to call the police and have me 'observed' in a psych ward, because legally they can do that, anyone can. So needless to say, I wound up in a psych ward, told the dr what was going on. The doctor, after he stopped laughing, sent me home.

ND:

I would talk to an attorney about filing suit.  Actually, when I was serving as a police officer, it took two physicians to commit......  No one can just involuntarily commit someone to a Psych ward, my mom was a Psych RN.