what would u do?

[gothiclovemonkey]

If someone who set up ur machine accidentally put ur time at 3 hours, instead of ur treatment time of 4 hours, and noone noticed until you were completely disconnected at taking ur last standing blood pressure, and they asked u to say you wanted off early, so that no one would get fired, because if someone found out the machine was set up wrong they would get fired,  what would u do?

[YLGuy]

I would probably sign the paper.  If the tech was completely incompetent and I was worried about my care then that might be another issue.  I have had techs set the machine for 3 hours before.  As much as I hated doing it I have corrected them right away and told them I was 3 1/2 hours.   

[Bruno]

I don't know. It seems so uncaring and imcompetent on their part that I wonder whether they get away with it because of bad supervision. I suppose I'd sign and keep a bloody good eye on what info. they were putting in the machine. Unfortunately authority hates whistle-blowers and can make it very hard for those who speak out.

[kremizin]

for me...if it's just the first time...just let it pass. if it will happen again, that's a different story.

to err is human...

[MooseMom]

I'm a soft touch, and I wouldn't want anyone to be fired.  I would tell myself that I should have noticed the error, so I'd fault myself as much as I would fault anyone else.  That's what I would do, but that doesn't mean that it would be the RIGHT thing to do.

[gothiclovemonkey]

thats pretty much how i feel. I dont really understand the machine at all, and it really bothers me to even look at the machine and my blood, so i didnt notice until the bp was being taken. I had thought it seemed shorter than normal, but i had been asleep so i wasnt sure. I just said, Already?? Hmm ok...
I am pretty sure the girl who set up the machine is very new, so i understood. and ive never really had alot of trouble with this clinic, i love every one there, they are great people. On the same hand, I have enough trouble trusting, and this has caused me to be very paranoid, because not only has that happened, but a few days later someone forgot to test the machine before putting me on it, about 15 min into my treatment they had  to take me off and test. Scary stuff. I have some fear issues, and it just makes D that much harder. And im "too nice" to really say much.

[MooseMom]

Gothic, I think learning more about your machine will solve several of your problems.  We usually become paranoid about things we know little about...we fear the unknown, so if you were to know more about your machine and what it does and what all the bits and pieces do, you may grow to feel more comfortable.  It is hard to trust things you don't understand, kwim?

If you know more about the machine, then you don't have to "trust" so much.  You can put more trust in yourself.  And if you see someone doing something incorrect, there is absolutely nothing wrong with saying, "Excuse me, but I think x is supposed to happen, not y."  It's all in the tone you use.  You can be nice while correcting an error that someone has made.  And if a tech is new, I'm sure s/he would be very grateful for any guidance you could give.

[Riki]

That's happened to me before.  When I was doing 4 and a half hours, they'd sometimes put me in for 4 hours by mistake.  Sometimes they'd catch it early enough to fix it, other times not. As long as I was feeling ok, it never bothered me.  My nurses wouldn't get fired for making that kind of mistake

[Zach]

Be careful.

Coming off early means you're noncompliant.

[okarol]

Be careful.

Coming off early means you're noncompliant.

He's right. 

[Riki]

They do have to put in the notes what the reason for coming off early was.  Like I said, my nurses aren't going to get fired unless they kill someone.  They have a good union.

[Hazmat35]

  I would make sure that I had a "sit-down" with the Technician and the person in charge, letting them know that they could get fired, because of the large blunder.  But that you are willing to let it slide this time and only this time.  (assuming that this is the first time and it was an honest mistake). 

My 1st reaction is to blast them and get them fired, but I do not want to see anybody loose their job over an honest mistake.  Hell, I've made a few myself. 

[thegrammalady]

everyone makes mistakes but asking me to lie about it is something else entirely. i always have the machine turned toward me after i'm hooked up. i check to make sure everything is set right. not that i don't generally trust people, but this is my life and people do make mistakes. if the tech is so concerned that she would get fired if the mistake was discovered my concern would be she's made mistakes in the past and is on notice. setting the machine for the wrong amount of time probably won't cost anyone their life......but.

[Riki]

My peritonitis was caused by one of the dialysis nurses who, we were told later, failed to follow procedure.  She was never reprimanded, in fact, I don't think anything was ever said to her.  I cringe whenever she looks after me, but I'm not allowed to request another nurse.