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« on: September 06, 2010, 09:02:00 PM »

My father in law (who is on hemo) told me that he found this information in Discover Magazine.   We are dialysis buddies.. I am on PD.  It is about an artificial kidney that can be placed in lieu of a transplant.  Has anyone heard about this?

It says that it is 5-7 years out, but looks somewhat interesting.  It looks like a sort of "internal dialysis"..

Any thoughts?

http://rdmag.com/News/Feeds/2010/09/materials-ucsf-unveils-model-for-implantable-artificial-kidn/
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« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2010, 09:54:34 PM »

Very interesting, loopy. Unfortunately, in 5 to 7 years, I'll be pushing up daisies.
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« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2010, 10:56:12 PM »

Very cute kitty, Galvo! 

I certainly hope that you will not be pushing up daisies!!  Who knows.. this might work out for some of us! :)

Take care and have a great week!
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« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2010, 08:24:38 PM »

Don't have too much hope for it. It likes a flight delay: a half hour of announced delay is about 1.5 hours of actual delay. A 5-7 years away actually may mean 10-21 years from approval, if it gets approval at all. 
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« Reply #4 on: September 09, 2010, 07:18:58 AM »

You have to have HOPE!  This sounds like a great idea to me!  They can count me in as a test patient to try it out on! 
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« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2011, 03:49:12 PM »

Check out this link.  It speaks of a doctor at UC San Francisco in California about inventing an artificial kidney that has been tried and tested successfully.

http://www.ucsf.edu/news/2010/09/4450/ucsf-unveils-model-implantable-artificial-kidney-replace-dialysis
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« Reply #6 on: May 02, 2011, 03:55:47 PM »

I'd be a guinea pig for it.
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« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2011, 01:34:56 AM »

Check out this link.  It speaks of a doctor at UC San Francisco in California about inventing an artificial kidney that has been tried and tested successfully.

http://www.ucsf.edu/news/2010/09/4450/ucsf-unveils-model-implantable-artificial-kidney-replace-dialysis

Same story - and it says in the article, "The team has established the feasibility of an implantable model in animal models and plans to be ready for clinical trials in five to seven years."

In the meantime try to get good clearance on dialysis or work toward a transplant.  :P
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« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2011, 10:20:08 PM »

This is very promising.  I have been hoping for an artificial kidney ever since I started dialysis 12 years ago.  A transplant only gets you so far, and it can fail.  Maybe this one will work till you die of natural causes.  I'm definitely keeping my thumbs crossed for this.
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« Reply #9 on: October 12, 2011, 01:06:46 PM »

Check out this link.  It speaks of a doctor at UC San Francisco in California about inventing an artificial kidney that has been tried and tested successfully.

http://www.ucsf.edu/news/2010/09/4450/ucsf-unveils-model-implantable-artificial-kidney-replace-dialysis

Same story - and it says in the article, "The team has established the feasibility of an implantable model in animal models and plans to be ready for clinical trials in five to seven years."

In the meantime try to get good clearance on dialysis or work toward a transplant.  :P

apparently they actually have a working model in the lab which has been going strong for quite some time.  the problem is making is small enough to implant,
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« Reply #10 on: October 12, 2011, 03:50:24 PM »

yeah but being from the computer industry I've seen computers shrink from 70 pound monsters to 7 pound workhorses in a matter of just a few years.  I have faith that they will get a small enough model for transplantation within the next 10 years or so.  Just hope that the funding for this research holds out for that long.
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-Perform surgery to pull ureters out my back so I can pee (called a eurethrarostomy)
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« Reply #11 on: October 26, 2011, 09:54:23 AM »

Since the waiting list for a kidney is eight years the 5-10 window doesn't seem too far off.  I volunteer to be a guinea pig.  USF, give me a call.   :guitar:
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« Reply #12 on: October 26, 2011, 10:07:20 AM »

That make two of us, I volunteer to be a guinea pig too     :P
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« Reply #13 on: January 01, 2012, 06:07:08 AM »

 As for the size, let the Japanese get involved. They can micro-miniaturize anything. I hope my heart holds out that long but, that may be asking a lot. However miracles do happen.  :pray;
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« Reply #14 on: January 01, 2012, 11:36:44 AM »

It would be awesome for this opportunity to arrive sooner than later.  Medical advancements are incredible, so *fingers crossed*.  I expect the line of folks willing to be guinea pigs would be pretty long. I'd also 'get in line'.  Bottom line -- If they're able to develop this technology in a way that makes it cheaper for patients than either dialysis or transplantation,  it will have great support.  Especially since we're all aware that,  based on issues related to the general health of ALL people,  they continue to predict that the need for both dialysis and transplants will continue to RISE,  not fall.
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« Reply #15 on: February 01, 2012, 10:55:52 AM »

sign me up, if it runs on batteries i'd be willing to undergo surgery every 3-5 years just to replace the battery. :2thumbsup;
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« Reply #16 on: February 01, 2012, 11:19:34 AM »

sign me up, if it runs on batteries i'd be willing to undergo surgery every 3-5 years just to replace the battery. :2thumbsup;

Me too!       ;D
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« Reply #17 on: August 24, 2012, 01:05:52 PM »

I want a solar powered kidney!  LOL. :yahoo;
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« Reply #18 on: August 25, 2012, 12:22:17 AM »

I'd settle for wind powered!
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« Reply #19 on: August 25, 2012, 11:20:35 AM »

There is another approach that could be available faster - it would be to have an implantable device that removes fluid, the device would keep the body properly hydrated aka at dry weight, 24/7. The hard part is removing fluid and the just right amount of solutes but there are other ways to keep solute levels in range that you could use in combination with a device that was implanted keeping fluid levels in range.

For instance the intestines can be used to remove solutes you'd use prebiotics, probiotics, and synbiotics to remove the right combination of solutes from the the blood through the intestine (this has been Eli Friedman's research) while the implanted device manged fluid. If we have to wait for something implantable that does everything a kidney does we'll be waiting a long time but we could see in the midterm therapies that use a combination of approaches - including diet - that would be a more healthy way to replace renal function.
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« Reply #20 on: August 25, 2012, 05:58:38 PM »

I'd settle for wind powered!

sounds pretty gassy to me.... ;D

How do you get on the clinical trial list, anyhow?

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« Reply #21 on: September 14, 2012, 03:49:10 PM »

My father in law (who is on hemo) told me that he found this information in Discover Magazine.   We are dialysis buddies.. I am on PD.  It is about an artificial kidney that can be placed in lieu of a transplant.  Has anyone heard about this?

It says that it is 5-7 years out, but looks somewhat interesting.  It looks like a sort of "internal dialysis"..

Any thoughts?

http://rdmag.com/News/Feeds/2010/09/materials-ucsf-unveils-model-for-implantable-artificial-kidn/

loopywings,

There are many companies out there trying to develop artificial kidneys as well as smaller dialysis machines.  There are 2 that are approx 2 years away from being released. One from Fresenius called the PAK - Portable Artificial Kidney and the other by a UK company being called the Quanta SelfCare+ as well as Baxter.   These are just two of many companies trying to take an edge on the technology. Unfortunately it takes many years to develop.
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« Reply #22 on: April 16, 2013, 04:05:50 PM »

 :banghead;  I've been on PD for about five months, and ten hours a night on the machine EVERY NIGHT gets old.  I prefer it to four hours on the hemo machine three times a week, but a portable kidney or artificial kidney would be the best.   :clap;
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« Reply #23 on: April 16, 2013, 04:44:22 PM »

it has been fast-tracked by FDA so it may be around sooner rather than later after trials.
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« Reply #24 on: May 24, 2013, 11:43:55 PM »

I was a guinea pig for a medicine that's supposed to knock down antibodies. It worked and I got my transplant. I would try artifical implanted kidney. I am in my sixty's so I don't mind being a guinea pig. P.K.D. runs in my family and my wifes family. We have numerous relatives with it and numerous relatives who died from it. Some had transplants and some are on dialysis and some getting ready for dialysis. Our god-daughter had twins one of them was born with it and lived 10 minutes.  :thumbup;
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