Im a Racist

[KarenInWA]

I prefer dark chocolate and milk chocolate over white chocolate. In fact, I won't give white chocolate a chance! Does that make me a racist?

(Just wanted to change the mood in here. I agree with HemoDoc - do we really need to dig this thread up again??? Seriously?)

Now, off to find myself some non-white chocolate!

KarenInWA

[Hemodoc]

... If it makes them feel good believing conservatives are all racist, let them. You won't change their minds anyway no matter how much you protest. The accusation is enough.

So why the generalizations?

Of course some conservatives are racist and, of course, some are not.

And some non-conservatives are racist and some are not.
 
Your complaint appears to be about unwarranted generalizations, but the form of your complaint makes unwarranted generalizations. That seems counter-productive.

cheers,
skg

Actually, political discussions on IHD are totally counter productive as well my friend. In any case, you failed to understand my conditional sentence that begin with the most important modifier, if! Thus, it is grammatically incorrect to accuse me of making a sweeping generalization since my comment was in the form of a question that I answered essentially, so be it. In other words, IF they wish to accuse some or all of us as racist, so what? That has nothing to do with the truth of the issue at hand. Just sayin, ya no what i mean? If yawl folks want to believe conservatives are racist for not voting for Obama, so be it. But, that is not what motivates the majority of us who oppose Obama at all. In fact, I quite enjoy Herman Cain and ex-Rep West. Perhaps, they ain't black enough if us alleged racist GOP folks appreciate and support them. No matter how you skin it, once the allegation is ventured, you cannot defend against it. So, if folks want to believe that false allegation, so be it.

Do we really need to go through another inane round of ridiculous accusations of the GOP being racist? Well, have at it if you feel better doing it.

[cariad]

Actually, political discussions on IHD are totally counter productive as well my friend. In any case, you failed to understand my conditional sentence that begin with the most important modifier, if! Thus, it is grammatically incorrect to accuse me of making a sweeping generalization since my comment was in the form of a question that I answered essentially, so be it. Just sayin, ya no what i mean? If yawl folks want to believe conservatives are racist for not voting for Obama, so be it.

Do we really need to go through another inane round of ridiculous accusations of the GOP being racist? Well, have at it if you feel better doing it.

Do we really need to go through another inane round of ridiculous accusations of people labeling you a racist when the exact opposite has happened across 9+ pages of posts? Well, have at it if you feel better doing it.

skg, well-stated, I was thinking the exact same thing as you. Great minds and all that.

[Hemodoc]

Actually, political discussions on IHD are totally counter productive as well my friend. In any case, you failed to understand my conditional sentence that begin with the most important modifier, if! Thus, it is grammatically incorrect to accuse me of making a sweeping generalization since my comment was in the form of a question that I answered essentially, so be it. Just sayin, ya no what i mean? If yawl folks want to believe conservatives are racist for not voting for Obama, so be it.

Do we really need to go through another inane round of ridiculous accusations of the GOP being racist? Well, have at it if you feel better doing it.

Do we really need to go through another inane round of ridiculous accusations of people labeling you a racist when the exact opposite has happened across 9+ pages of posts? Well, have at it if you feel better doing it.

skg, well-stated, I was thinking the exact same thing as you. Great minds and all that.

Hmmmm, I must venture where you got my alleged personal interjection out of the comment you quoted. I guess I must represent all conservatives then. Ahhhh, yes, yes, my persecution complex. I forgot. Add that to the list of racist as well. In any case, so be it.

[cariad]

Actually, political discussions on IHD are totally counter productive as well my friend. In any case, you failed to understand my conditional sentence that begin with the most important modifier, if! Thus, it is grammatically incorrect to accuse me of making a sweeping generalization since my comment was in the form of a question that I answered essentially, so be it. Just sayin, ya no what i mean? If yawl folks want to believe conservatives are racist for not voting for Obama, so be it.

Do we really need to go through another inane round of ridiculous accusations of the GOP being racist? Well, have at it if you feel better doing it.

Do we really need to go through another inane round of ridiculous accusations of people labeling you a racist when the exact opposite has happened across 9+ pages of posts? Well, have at it if you feel better doing it.

skg, well-stated, I was thinking the exact same thing as you. Great minds and all that.

Hmmmm, I must venture where you got my alleged personal interjection out of the comment you quoted. I guess I must represent all conservatives then. Ahhhh, yes, yes, my persecution complex. I forgot. Add that to the list of racist as well. In any case, so be it.

Read over what you've written in this thread. You accused many of us repeatedly of calling you a racist when we did no such thing. And again in this response, no matter what anyone says, if we don't agree with you that there are no racists in the GOP, and most especially the birther movement, then we are calling you personally a racist. I certainly don't believe for one moment that you represent all conservatives, you are the one who has repeatedly used the phrase "conservatives LIKE ME".

I thought you didn't want to participate in political discussions anymore on here? If it's so pointless to talk to ANY OF US (except MooseMom, per your words), then why do you continually hover over these discussions?

[Hemodoc]

Actually, political discussions on IHD are totally counter productive as well my friend. In any case, you failed to understand my conditional sentence that begin with the most important modifier, if! Thus, it is grammatically incorrect to accuse me of making a sweeping generalization since my comment was in the form of a question that I answered essentially, so be it. Just sayin, ya no what i mean? If yawl folks want to believe conservatives are racist for not voting for Obama, so be it.

Do we really need to go through another inane round of ridiculous accusations of the GOP being racist? Well, have at it if you feel better doing it.

Do we really need to go through another inane round of ridiculous accusations of people labeling you a racist when the exact opposite has happened across 9+ pages of posts? Well, have at it if you feel better doing it.

skg, well-stated, I was thinking the exact same thing as you. Great minds and all that.

Hmmmm, I must venture where you got my alleged personal interjection out of the comment you quoted. I guess I must represent all conservatives then. Ahhhh, yes, yes, my persecution complex. I forgot. Add that to the list of racist as well. In any case, so be it.

Read over what you've written in this thread. You accused many of us repeatedly of calling you a racist when we did no such thing. And again in this response, no matter what anyone says, if we don't agree with you that there are no racists in the GOP, and most especially the birther movement, then we are calling you personally a racist. I certainly don't believe for one moment that you represent all conservatives, you are the one who has repeatedly used the phrase "conservatives LIKE ME".

I thought you didn't want to participate in political discussions anymore on here? If it's so pointless to talk to ANY OF US (except MooseMom, per your words), then why do you continually hover over these discussions?

Nope, Cariad, I just told Bill don't bother with the IPAB discussion any further, I had enough sarcasm for one day. And yes, Moosemom is the only one of late who actually discusses political issues without personal attacks in a friendly tone.  Just a bit bored without my little girl here in CA to sing the Wheels on the Bus go round and round, so I will go round and round a few rounds here on IHD. Is that a problem Cariad? It is better than shredding documents and cleaning out the attic anyway.

Now the birther movement, why call them racist? You are doing it again when you said you wouldn't. If you believe the document that Obama put forth is a real document, then sorry, the digital evidence speaks against that. If you want to believe it is a real document, so be it. But looking at digital evidence is not racist or racism. Sorry, but there are many questions that Obama has not provided answers nor do I believe he ever will. Once again, that is not racism. But, it matters not. If that is what you wish to believe, it is a free country, or at least for a bit longer anyway.

[cariad]

Nope, Cariad, I just told Bill don't bother with the IPAB discussion any further, I had enough sarcasm for one day. And yes, Moosemom is the only one of late who actually discusses political issues without personal attacks in a friendly tone.  Just a bit bored without my little girl here in CA to sing the Wheels on the Bus go round and round, so I will go round and round a few rounds here on IHD. Is that a problem Cariad? It is better than shredding documents and cleaning out the attic anyway.

Now the birther movement, why call them racist? You are doing it again when you said you wouldn't. If you believe the document that Obama put forth is a real document, then sorry, the digital evidence speaks against that. If you want to believe it is a real document, so be it. But looking at digital evidence is not racist or racism. Sorry, but there are many questions that Obama has not provided answers nor do I believe he ever will. Once again, that is not racism. But, it matters not. If that is what you wish to believe, it is a free country, or at least for a bit longer anyway.

I believe there is a racist element to the birther movement as I said about 8 pages back. You say you don't want to re-open the topic, then rehash the same tired arguments in an effort to bait me into beating my head against that wall again.

Your writing from the Traditional America thread: "It seems discussing diverse opinions on IHD is a no go any longer with the exception of Moosemom alone."

Yes, I love MooseMom, too, but there is no way I would insult the rest of IHD by making such a sweeping generalization. It couldn't possibly be you with the problem, huh? No, it's everyone else who refuses to agree with you that is so unreasonable, that's far more likely. I don't see anyone else, conservative nor dem taking these little debates so ridiculously seriously.

I have my little boys here with me and am not bored in the slightest, so I don't need you to amuse me. We're well past Wheels on the Bus and instead discuss political issues of the day. My kids have an encouraging, intuitive understanding of what matters in life.

[iKAZ3D]

If not agreeing with Obama means you're a racist, than call me Racist Randy.

I voted for him because he is WHITE.  Am I a racist?      Joking of course!!!

Nein! 

[YLGuy]

I thought you didn't want to participate in political discussions anymore on here? If it's so pointless to talk to ANY OF US (except MooseMom, per your words), then why do you continually hover over these discussions?

 

That's all he wants to talk about.  If you look at the last 6 pages of his contributions to this forum they are all political rants with the exception of 1 sentence.  Too bad a doctor with kidney failure doesn't have anything more positive to add to this forum anymore. Sad, very sad.
 

[Hemodoc]

Nope, Cariad, I just told Bill don't bother with the IPAB discussion any further, I had enough sarcasm for one day. And yes, Moosemom is the only one of late who actually discusses political issues without personal attacks in a friendly tone.  Just a bit bored without my little girl here in CA to sing the Wheels on the Bus go round and round, so I will go round and round a few rounds here on IHD. Is that a problem Cariad? It is better than shredding documents and cleaning out the attic anyway.

Now the birther movement, why call them racist? You are doing it again when you said you wouldn't. If you believe the document that Obama put forth is a real document, then sorry, the digital evidence speaks against that. If you want to believe it is a real document, so be it. But looking at digital evidence is not racist or racism. Sorry, but there are many questions that Obama has not provided answers nor do I believe he ever will. Once again, that is not racism. But, it matters not. If that is what you wish to believe, it is a free country, or at least for a bit longer anyway.

I believe there is a racist element to the birther movement as I said about 8 pages back. You say you don't want to re-open the topic, then rehash the same tired arguments in an effort to bait me into beating my head against that wall again.

Your writing from the Traditional America thread: "It seems discussing diverse opinions on IHD is a no go any longer with the exception of Moosemom alone."

Yes, I love MooseMom, too, but there is no way I would insult the rest of IHD by making such a sweeping generalization. It couldn't possibly be you with the problem, huh? No, it's everyone else who refuses to agree with you that is so unreasonable, that's far more likely. I don't see anyone else, conservative nor dem taking these little debates so ridiculously seriously.

I have my little boys here with me and am not bored in the slightest, so I don't need you to amuse me. We're well past Wheels on the Bus and instead discuss political issues of the day. My kids have an encouraging, intuitive understanding of what matters in life.

Whatever Cariad.  In any case, still waiting for my wife's cousin who was supposed to be here two hours ago. And yes, my three year old girl likes the wheels on the bus go round and round. Is there something wrong with that? In any case, who stated I insulted all of IHD. Wow, that is a bit much isn't Cariad???  Anyway, Moosemom's demeanor is a great example of how to discuss issues. And yes, go look back at Epoman and his discussions on many of the same topics as we do today in off topic and political section. He rumbled, but he did not insult folks. Yes, I stick to my comment that "it seems discussing diverse opinions on IHD is a no go any longer with the exception of Moosemom alone."

So go ahead and zap me some more if you wish instead of talking about the topic at hand. Still waiting for the cousins to show up.

[Hemodoc]

I thought you didn't want to participate in political discussions anymore on here? If it's so pointless to talk to ANY OF US (except MooseMom, per your words), then why do you continually hover over these discussions?

 

That's all he wants to talk about.  If you look at the last 6 pages of his contributions to this forum they are all political rants with the exception of 1 sentence.  Too bad a doctor with kidney failure doesn't have anything more positive to add to this forum anymore. Sad, very sad.
 

Yup, can always count on YL to criticize me for something. How about just talking about the topic LIKE Moosemom does instead of finding a new way to dis HemoDoc? In any case, just showing once again what I stated was true.

Anyone want to talk about the topic or just ridicule HemoDoc for a while longer???

You are too much YL. Have a great day once again.

In any case, the cousins still aren't here!!!

[cariad]

Whatever Cariad.  In any case, still waiting for my wife's cousin who was supposed to be here two hours ago. And yes, my three year old girl likes the wheels on the bus go round and round. Is there something wrong with that? In any case, who stated I insulted all of IHD. Wow, that is a bit much isn't Cariad???  Anyway, Moosemom's demeanor is a great example of how to discuss issues. And yes, go look back at Epoman and his discussions on many of the same topics as we do today in off topic and political section. He rumbled, but he did not insult folks. Yes, I stick to my comment that "it seems discussing diverse opinions on IHD is a no go any longer with the exception of Moosemom alone."

So go ahead and zap me some more if you wish instead of talking about the topic at hand. Still waiting for the cousins to show up.

Where did I say something was wrong with a 3-year-old singing Wheels on the Bus? Do you need to try to find some slight in absolutely everything? You mentioned what you do with your child and so I mentioned what I do with mine.

Stating that you and MooseMom are the only people who can discuss political issues properly is an insult, and one that you trot out quite frequently, yet here you always are, saying how none of us are worth talking to yet desperately trying for the last word. You can discuss things with MooseMom because she is willing to do what few others are, continue to approach you with respect when you've repeatedly failed to show that same respect to others, accuse her of ad hominem attacks while not addressing those you've made toward others, and generally demand that everyone recognise your superiority in all political views. Some one needs to saint that woman.  

You've said you don't want to drag this thread up again, yet you accuse me of not discussing the original topic. Which is it? Do you want to discuss the topic of racism in politics, or not?  Do you want to keep accusing me and everyone else of calling you a racist when we haven't?

[frankswife]

I have found that "Racist" is what you are called as soon as you begin to win an argument with a liberal. It was the all-purpose, worst, most vile thing one could possibly be and you were required to crawl away in shame once that label was applied to you. Not any more. It's over-use had led to it losing it's punch. What a shame for the real racism that occurs.

[Hemodoc]

Whatever Cariad.  In any case, still waiting for my wife's cousin who was supposed to be here two hours ago. And yes, my three year old girl likes the wheels on the bus go round and round. Is there something wrong with that? In any case, who stated I insulted all of IHD. Wow, that is a bit much isn't Cariad???  Anyway, Moosemom's demeanor is a great example of how to discuss issues. And yes, go look back at Epoman and his discussions on many of the same topics as we do today in off topic and political section. He rumbled, but he did not insult folks. Yes, I stick to my comment that "it seems discussing diverse opinions on IHD is a no go any longer with the exception of Moosemom alone."

So go ahead and zap me some more if you wish instead of talking about the topic at hand. Still waiting for the cousins to show up.

Where did I say something was wrong with a 3-year-old singing Wheels on the Bus? Do you need to try to find some slight in absolutely everything? You mentioned what you do with your child and so I mentioned what I do with mine.

Stating that you and MooseMom are the only people who can discuss political issues properly is an insult, and one that you trot out quite frequently, yet here you always are, saying how none of us are worth talking to yet desperately trying for the last word. You can discuss things with MooseMom because she is willing to do what few others are, continue to approach you with respect when you've repeatedly failed to show that same respect to others, accuse her of ad hominem attacks while not addressing those you've made toward others, and generally demand that everyone recognise your superiority in all political views. Some one needs to saint that woman.  

You've said you don't want to drag this thread up again, yet you accuse me of not discussing the original topic. Which is it? Do you want to discuss the topic of racism in politics, or not?  Do you want to keep accusing me and everyone else of calling you a racist when we haven't?

Oh my, Cariad, are you quite done chastising me? Perhaps you might want to return to the topic of the thread if you can. For your information, since this thread reopened, I have not done as you say at all my dear. Oh my, enough already. Can we get back to the topic. Once again, just like Moosemom does.

So, add a superiority complex to my persecution complex. Hmmmm, are they mutually compatible?  Once again, what you think of me is not the topic of this thread if you haven't noticed.

You no what Cariad, this is getting old. The subtitle on this section states: Political discussions - no personal attacks or name calling I have stuck to the topic of these threads. If you persist in your personal crusade against me here at IHD, I will in the future not respond, but I will report each one to the moderators. So, make up your mind, continue the personal crusade against me, or talk about the topic at hand. Your choice, but I am tired of this myself and I assume everyone else reading it is likewise.

Have a great day.

[Hemodoc]

I have found that "Racist" is what you are called as soon as you begin to win an argument with a liberal. It was the all-purpose, worst, most vile thing one could possibly be and you were required to crawl away in shame once that label was applied to you. Not any more. It's over-use had led to it losing it's punch. What a shame for the real racism that occurs.

So true.

[iKAZ3D]

Whatever Cariad.  In any case, still waiting for my wife's cousin who was supposed to be here two hours ago. And yes, my three year old girl likes the wheels on the bus go round and round. Is there something wrong with that? In any case, who stated I insulted all of IHD. Wow, that is a bit much isn't Cariad???  Anyway, Moosemom's demeanor is a great example of how to discuss issues. And yes, go look back at Epoman and his discussions on many of the same topics as we do today in off topic and political section. He rumbled, but he did not insult folks. Yes, I stick to my comment that "it seems discussing diverse opinions on IHD is a no go any longer with the exception of Moosemom alone."

So go ahead and zap me some more if you wish instead of talking about the topic at hand. Still waiting for the cousins to show up.

Where did I say something was wrong with a 3-year-old singing Wheels on the Bus? Do you need to try to find some slight in absolutely everything? You mentioned what you do with your child and so I mentioned what I do with mine.

Stating that you and MooseMom are the only people who can discuss political issues properly is an insult, and one that you trot out quite frequently, yet here you always are, saying how none of us are worth talking to yet desperately trying for the last word. You can discuss things with MooseMom because she is willing to do what few others are, continue to approach you with respect when you've repeatedly failed to show that same respect to others, accuse her of ad hominem attacks while not addressing those you've made toward others, and generally demand that everyone recognise your superiority in all political views. Some one needs to saint that woman.  

You've said you don't want to drag this thread up again, yet you accuse me of not discussing the original topic. Which is it? Do you want to discuss the topic of racism in politics, or not?  Do you want to keep accusing me and everyone else of calling you a racist when we haven't?

Oh my, Cariad, are you quite done chastising me? Perhaps you might want to return to the topic of the thread if you can. For your information, since this thread reopened, I have not done as you say at all my dear. Oh my, enough already. Can we get back to the topic. Once again, just like Moosemom does.

So, add a superiority complex to my persecution complex. Hmmmm, are they mutually compatible?  Once again, what you think of me is not the topic of this thread if you haven't noticed.

You no what Cariad, this is getting old. The subtitle on this section states: Political discussions - no personal attacks or name calling I have stuck to the topic of these threads. If you persist in your personal crusade against me here at IHD, I will in the future not respond, but I will report each one to the moderators. So, make up your mind, continue the personal crusade against me, or talk about the topic at hand. Your choice, but I am tired of this myself and I assume everyone else reading it is likewise.

Have a great day.

Personal attacks are things, for example, like me calling you an ignorant do**hebag or you calling me a little t*at. I do not see anything resembling that in her post.

[cariad]

Oh my, Cariad, are you quite done chastising me? Perhaps you might want to return to the topic of the thread if you can. For your information, since this thread reopened, I have not done as you say at all my dear. Oh my, enough already. Can we get back to the topic. Once again, just like Moosemom does.

So, add a superiority complex to my persecution complex. Hmmmm, are they mutually compatible?  Once again, what you think of me is not the topic of this thread if you haven't noticed.

You no what Cariad, this is getting old. The subtitle on this section states: Political discussions - no personal attacks or name calling I have stuck to the topic of these threads. If you persist in your personal crusade against me here at IHD, I will in the future not respond, but I will report each one to the moderators. So, make up your mind, continue the personal crusade against me, or talk about the topic at hand. Your choice, but I am tired of this myself and I assume everyone else reading it is likewise.

Have a great day.

You have stated that MooseMom is the only person who can meet your standards for discussion. That's a bit sanctimonious of you, don't you think? Once again, you flatter yourself into thinking that I sit around with nothing better to do than talk about you. I have no crusade against you, I am sick and bloody tired of you accusing everyone of attacking you, and there is simply no way that I am not going to respond when you keep beating the same tired tune. I take accusations of attacks seriously, and you have tried to set it up so that any time anyone wants to discuss where they see racism in the GOP, that this somehow means that we are actually personally attacking you.

I invite you to exercise your right to report any or all of my posts to moderators. You have been threatening me and others along those lines for years. I choose to take it to the person with whom I have a problem or disagreement rather than running off to drag people who are currently in mourning into my little online spats. You see insult everywhere. If I cannot defend myself when you make these accusations then the mods may as well ban me because I won't be back. I do my best to keep the tone as respectful as possible, but I am not going to change my views nor tiptoe around you while you feel free to fling insults and accusations at me. Do your worst.

[Hemodoc]

Oh my, Cariad, are you quite done chastising me? Perhaps you might want to return to the topic of the thread if you can. For your information, since this thread reopened, I have not done as you say at all my dear. Oh my, enough already. Can we get back to the topic. Once again, just like Moosemom does.

So, add a superiority complex to my persecution complex. Hmmmm, are they mutually compatible?  Once again, what you think of me is not the topic of this thread if you haven't noticed.

You no what Cariad, this is getting old. The subtitle on this section states: Political discussions - no personal attacks or name calling I have stuck to the topic of these threads. If you persist in your personal crusade against me here at IHD, I will in the future not respond, but I will report each one to the moderators. So, make up your mind, continue the personal crusade against me, or talk about the topic at hand. Your choice, but I am tired of this myself and I assume everyone else reading it is likewise.

Have a great day.

You have stated that MooseMom is the only person who can meet your standards for discussion. That's a bit sanctimonious of you, don't you think? Once again, you flatter yourself into thinking that I sit around with nothing better to do than talk about you. I have no crusade against you, I am sick and bloody tired of you accusing everyone of attacking you, and there is simply no way that I am not going to respond when you keep beating the same tired tune. I take accusations of attacks seriously, and you have tried to set it up so that any time anyone wants to discuss where they see racism in the GOP, that this somehow means that we are actually personally attacking you.

I invite you to exercise your right to report any or all of my posts to moderators. You have been threatening me and others along those lines for years. I choose to take it to the person with whom I have a problem or disagreement rather than running off to drag people who are currently in mourning into my little online spats. You see insult everywhere. If I cannot defend myself when you make these accusations then the mods may as well ban me because I won't be back. I do my best to keep the tone as respectful as possible, but I am not going to change my views nor tiptoe around you while you feel free to fling insults and accusations at me. Do your worst.

Once again Cariad, the topic of this thread is racism, not your opinion of Hemodoc. Let's stick to the topic. Enough said.

[cariad]

You have stated that MooseMom is the only person who can meet your standards for discussion. That's a bit sanctimonious of you, don't you think? Once again, you flatter yourself into thinking that I sit around with nothing better to do than talk about you. I have no crusade against you, I am sick and bloody tired of you accusing everyone of attacking you, and there is simply no way that I am not going to respond when you keep beating the same tired tune. I take accusations of attacks seriously, and you have tried to set it up so that any time anyone wants to discuss where they see racism in the GOP, that this somehow means that we are actually personally attacking you.

I invite you to exercise your right to report any or all of my posts to moderators. You have been threatening me and others along those lines for years. I choose to take it to the person with whom I have a problem or disagreement rather than running off to drag people who are currently in mourning into my little online spats. You see insult everywhere. If I cannot defend myself when you make these accusations then the mods may as well ban me because I won't be back. I do my best to keep the tone as respectful as possible, but I am not going to change my views nor tiptoe around you while you feel free to fling insults and accusations at me. Do your worst.

Once again Cariad, the topic of this thread is racism, not your opinion of Hemodoc. Let's stick to the topic. Enough said.

So you want to talk about the actual topic now? The topic is also not "how can I threaten to get other members banned". I have stuck to the topic as much as you have, if not more, but again, not going to sit here and watch you threaten or insult me without responding.You've repeatedly stated you won't respond to me, only to respond in record time. You just yesterday sarcastically asked why this topic was even re-opened, now here you are deciding that you have the authority to tell people that they have to remain on topic, something that you do not have the strongest track record with, to be perfectly candid.   

Anyone interested in my opinion on the topic has only to go back and read pages and pages of my thoughts on racism in politics, but they'll have to wade through a fair number of Bible quotes to get there. In summation: some conservatives are racist, they really don't make any secret of that. I never called you a racist and you know it, but of course you tried to admonish everyone to not even discuss the topic because you decided this was a personal attack against you.

[Hemodoc]

You have stated that MooseMom is the only person who can meet your standards for discussion. That's a bit sanctimonious of you, don't you think? Once again, you flatter yourself into thinking that I sit around with nothing better to do than talk about you. I have no crusade against you, I am sick and bloody tired of you accusing everyone of attacking you, and there is simply no way that I am not going to respond when you keep beating the same tired tune. I take accusations of attacks seriously, and you have tried to set it up so that any time anyone wants to discuss where they see racism in the GOP, that this somehow means that we are actually personally attacking you.

I invite you to exercise your right to report any or all of my posts to moderators. You have been threatening me and others along those lines for years. I choose to take it to the person with whom I have a problem or disagreement rather than running off to drag people who are currently in mourning into my little online spats. You see insult everywhere. If I cannot defend myself when you make these accusations then the mods may as well ban me because I won't be back. I do my best to keep the tone as respectful as possible, but I am not going to change my views nor tiptoe around you while you feel free to fling insults and accusations at me. Do your worst.

Once again Cariad, the topic of this thread is racism, not your opinion of Hemodoc. Let's stick to the topic. Enough said.

So you want to talk about the actual topic now? The topic is also not "how can I threaten to get other members banned". I have stuck to the topic as much as you have, if not more, but again, not going to sit here and watch you threaten or insult me without responding.You've repeatedly stated you won't respond to me, only to respond in record time. You just yesterday sarcastically asked why this topic was even re-opened, now here you are deciding that you have the authority to tell people that they have to remain on topic, something that you do not have the strongest track record with, to be perfectly candid.   

Anyone interested in my opinion on the topic has only to go back and read pages and pages of my thoughts on racism in politics, but they'll have to wade through a fair number of Bible quotes to get there. In summation: some conservatives are racist, they really don't make any secret of that. I never called you a racist and you know it, but of course you tried to admonish everyone to not even discuss the topic because you decided this was a personal attack against you.

All right, so be it, note sent to moderator.

[iKAZ3D]

You have stated that MooseMom is the only person who can meet your standards for discussion. That's a bit sanctimonious of you, don't you think? Once again, you flatter yourself into thinking that I sit around with nothing better to do than talk about you. I have no crusade against you, I am sick and bloody tired of you accusing everyone of attacking you, and there is simply no way that I am not going to respond when you keep beating the same tired tune. I take accusations of attacks seriously, and you have tried to set it up so that any time anyone wants to discuss where they see racism in the GOP, that this somehow means that we are actually personally attacking you.

I invite you to exercise your right to report any or all of my posts to moderators. You have been threatening me and others along those lines for years. I choose to take it to the person with whom I have a problem or disagreement rather than running off to drag people who are currently in mourning into my little online spats. You see insult everywhere. If I cannot defend myself when you make these accusations then the mods may as well ban me because I won't be back. I do my best to keep the tone as respectful as possible, but I am not going to change my views nor tiptoe around you while you feel free to fling insults and accusations at me. Do your worst.

Once again Cariad, the topic of this thread is racism, not your opinion of Hemodoc. Let's stick to the topic. Enough said.

So you want to talk about the actual topic now? The topic is also not "how can I threaten to get other members banned". I have stuck to the topic as much as you have, if not more, but again, not going to sit here and watch you threaten or insult me without responding.You've repeatedly stated you won't respond to me, only to respond in record time. You just yesterday sarcastically asked why this topic was even re-opened, now here you are deciding that you have the authority to tell people that they have to remain on topic, something that you do not have the strongest track record with, to be perfectly candid.   

Anyone interested in my opinion on the topic has only to go back and read pages and pages of my thoughts on racism in politics, but they'll have to wade through a fair number of Bible quotes to get there. In summation: some conservatives are racist, they really don't make any secret of that. I never called you a racist and you know it, but of course you tried to admonish everyone to not even discuss the topic because you decided this was a personal attack against you.

He's over in my gay rights thread making it about religion...so I agree, he doesn't exactly have solid ground.

[Hemodoc]

You have stated that MooseMom is the only person who can meet your standards for discussion. That's a bit sanctimonious of you, don't you think? Once again, you flatter yourself into thinking that I sit around with nothing better to do than talk about you. I have no crusade against you, I am sick and bloody tired of you accusing everyone of attacking you, and there is simply no way that I am not going to respond when you keep beating the same tired tune. I take accusations of attacks seriously, and you have tried to set it up so that any time anyone wants to discuss where they see racism in the GOP, that this somehow means that we are actually personally attacking you.

I invite you to exercise your right to report any or all of my posts to moderators. You have been threatening me and others along those lines for years. I choose to take it to the person with whom I have a problem or disagreement rather than running off to drag people who are currently in mourning into my little online spats. You see insult everywhere. If I cannot defend myself when you make these accusations then the mods may as well ban me because I won't be back. I do my best to keep the tone as respectful as possible, but I am not going to change my views nor tiptoe around you while you feel free to fling insults and accusations at me. Do your worst.

Once again Cariad, the topic of this thread is racism, not your opinion of Hemodoc. Let's stick to the topic. Enough said.

So you want to talk about the actual topic now? The topic is also not "how can I threaten to get other members banned". I have stuck to the topic as much as you have, if not more, but again, not going to sit here and watch you threaten or insult me without responding.You've repeatedly stated you won't respond to me, only to respond in record time. You just yesterday sarcastically asked why this topic was even re-opened, now here you are deciding that you have the authority to tell people that they have to remain on topic, something that you do not have the strongest track record with, to be perfectly candid.   

Anyone interested in my opinion on the topic has only to go back and read pages and pages of my thoughts on racism in politics, but they'll have to wade through a fair number of Bible quotes to get there. In summation: some conservatives are racist, they really don't make any secret of that. I never called you a racist and you know it, but of course you tried to admonish everyone to not even discuss the topic because you decided this was a personal attack against you.

He's over in my gay rights thread making it about religion...so I agree, he doesn't exactly have solid ground.

Nope, just expressing the prevailing sentiment of at least half of the folks here in America, or at least as represented by many surveys on the issue in any case. You mentioned the Chick-fil-A issue which was entirely about the CEO/owners Christian beliefs and the stand he took against gay marriage, yet by all accounts as you acknowledge, he did not discriminate against gays either selling to them or working there. So, you were the one that actually brought up the religious issue yourself my friend.

[cariad]

Personal attacks are things, for example, like me calling you an ignorant do**hebag or you calling me a little t*at. I do not see anything resembling that in her post.

Thank you for this, iKAZ. 

All right, so be it, note sent to moderator.

I'm shaking.

[iKAZ3D]

Personal attacks are things, for example, like me calling you an ignorant do**hebag or you calling me a little t*at. I do not see anything resembling that in her post.

Thank you for this, iKAZ. 

All right, so be it, note sent to moderator.

I'm shaking.

No problemo!

[jbeany]

Okay, fine.  The moderator is here.  This is, may I remind you all, the political section.  The rules are looser here, because we expect you to stay out if you can't handle it.  So, here's my Official Moderator Warning:

Play nice, or in the spirit of Mother's Day, I'm taking the thread away and none of you can play with it.

jbeany, Moderator.