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« on: February 12, 2009, 09:22:17 AM »

Thanks for your input!

I run 4.5 hours per treatment.

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« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2009, 09:32:47 AM »

I am 4.5 Monday and Wednesday, I insisted on 4 hours on Friday, It makes me feel like I won something.

When I first started back on hemo after PD I was on 3 weeks of 5 hours a day, just to get back to "normal"
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« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2009, 09:59:30 AM »

I'm Other.  (Don't say you knew THAT already Zach).  2 1/2 hours X 5 times a week.
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« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2009, 10:02:12 AM »


I'm Other.  (Don't say you knew THAT already Zach)...


 :rofl; :rofl; :rofl;

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Just the facts: 70.0 kgs. (about 154 lbs.)
Treatment: Tue-Thur-Sat   5.5 hours, 2x/wk, 6 hours, 1x/wk
Dialysate flow (Qd)=600;  Blood pump speed(Qb)=315
Fresenius Optiflux-180 filter--without reuse
Fresenius 2008T dialysis machine
My KDOQI Nutrition (+/ -):  2,450 Calories, 84 grams Protein/day.

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« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2009, 11:10:00 AM »

2 to 2 1/2 hours 6 days/week

Edit: I see this is specifically for in-centre. When I was in-centre I did "the usual" four hours, three times a week.
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« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2009, 11:16:14 AM »

i'm 3.5 x 3 days a week.  i just got my blood flow rate from 400 to 450.  My kdrt or whatever was 1.62.  I wonder if i can reduce it to 3 hrs..
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« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2009, 11:54:07 AM »

Dad does  4.5 hrs  Mon/Wed/Fri
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« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2009, 01:15:51 PM »

3 hours 3x a week - MWF
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« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2009, 01:27:41 PM »

m,w,f     4 hours
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« Reply #9 on: February 12, 2009, 03:21:26 PM »

I run 4.15 hours m-w-f. My weight is 190lbs and my kt/v averages about 1.80
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« Reply #10 on: February 12, 2009, 03:38:08 PM »

I run 2 hours and 15 minutes, M, W & F
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« Reply #11 on: February 12, 2009, 05:27:22 PM »

4 hours/3 x's a week. T/T/S but since i've just started using my fistula I'm hoping to be able to cut 30 minutes and be 3 1/2. my kt/v was 1.96 so it's a good possibility
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« Reply #12 on: February 12, 2009, 07:35:12 PM »

I am an OTHER, too.  Guess what my run is?  :rofl;



8 hours MWF- Nocturnal, but then you all knew that already!  :rofl;
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« Reply #13 on: February 12, 2009, 07:44:56 PM »

M-W-F 3-1/2 hours...Boxman
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« Reply #14 on: February 12, 2009, 11:17:26 PM »

I'm on 3 hours - M,W,F.
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« Reply #15 on: February 13, 2009, 12:49:48 AM »

5 hours T/T/S
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« Reply #16 on: February 13, 2009, 12:19:56 PM »

Im reading all your respoinses and everyone has a diffrent amount of hrs  So what is the norm for a person to do D. Do you set hrs or does the doc . That sounded stupid but thats the way it came out. I know the doc gives orders but do you fudge on it or do all even if you feel better. hope you understand what I mean.
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« Reply #17 on: February 13, 2009, 12:30:29 PM »

90% so far do M/W/F  those are the popular days i see.
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« Reply #18 on: February 13, 2009, 12:35:59 PM »


Im reading all your respoinses and everyone has a diffrent amount of hrs  So what is the norm for a person to do D. Do you set hrs or does the doc . That sounded stupid but thats the way it came out. I know the doc gives orders but do you fudge on it or do all even if you feel better. hope you understand what I mean.


Longer is better.

Kt/V only measures Urea.  There's a lot more to optimal hemodialysis than that.

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No transplant.  Not yet, anyway.  Only decided to be listed on 11/9/06. Inactive at the moment.  ;)
I make films.

Just the facts: 70.0 kgs. (about 154 lbs.)
Treatment: Tue-Thur-Sat   5.5 hours, 2x/wk, 6 hours, 1x/wk
Dialysate flow (Qd)=600;  Blood pump speed(Qb)=315
Fresenius Optiflux-180 filter--without reuse
Fresenius 2008T dialysis machine
My KDOQI Nutrition (+/ -):  2,450 Calories, 84 grams Protein/day.

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« Reply #19 on: February 13, 2009, 01:40:43 PM »

When Marvin was in-center, he was M-W-F for anywhere from 4 hours to 5 hours and fifteen minutes (boy! that was a long treatment).  His time varied with his weight and his kt/V readings.  When he switched to home hemo (July of 2008), his time was at the max in-center (5.25 hours).  Now that's he's home hemo, he runs 6 days/week for 2.5 to 3 hours each run (depends on fluid gain).
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« Reply #20 on: February 13, 2009, 01:51:33 PM »

4 hours M-W-F
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« Reply #21 on: February 13, 2009, 03:55:14 PM »

You didn't take into consideration that some of us are on the National Research Study for six day a week Dialysis.

I'm 6 days a week for 2 hours at a time.

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« Reply #22 on: February 13, 2009, 04:05:08 PM »

You didn't take into consideration that some of us are on the National Research Study for six day a week Dialysis.

I'm 6 days a week for 2 hours at a time.

I forgive you.

I'm sorry. I hope you selected "Other."
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No transplant.  Not yet, anyway.  Only decided to be listed on 11/9/06. Inactive at the moment.  ;)
I make films.

Just the facts: 70.0 kgs. (about 154 lbs.)
Treatment: Tue-Thur-Sat   5.5 hours, 2x/wk, 6 hours, 1x/wk
Dialysate flow (Qd)=600;  Blood pump speed(Qb)=315
Fresenius Optiflux-180 filter--without reuse
Fresenius 2008T dialysis machine
My KDOQI Nutrition (+/ -):  2,450 Calories, 84 grams Protein/day.

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« Reply #23 on: February 13, 2009, 05:28:13 PM »

I'm  3 hours a week on Tuesday, Thursday and Saturday for now. After I start using my graft, I'll be transferred to a larger clinic, so I (hopefully) will have a different schedule. How do they determine how long you run? And how do I figure out my k/tv?
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« Reply #24 on: February 14, 2009, 06:16:16 AM »

I believe it is based mostly on weight - at least here. For example a lot of the female patients and light men in my unit do 4 or 4.5 hours (one man is like 48kg and he does 4 hours) while the heavier folks do 5 hours. 5 is the max they do here in centre. Every time I whinge to myself about how long and boring it is I try to remind myself that, as Zach says, longer is better for me.. it sure doesn't seem it after 3 hours knowing there's still 2 to go!! LOL

Also I do Tue/Thu/Sat - mostly because that's what they gave me initially - but they then offered for me to move around a year or so in. I felt TTS suited my work life more because it meant I could get 3 full days of work in a week rather than 2 if I did MWF. Yes, my "weekend" is now Sunday/Monday, but it doesn't really bother me that much anymore. I'm kind of used to it and just waiting for the time I won't have to go to dialysis anymore.. and then i won't know what the heck to do with myself on a Saturday afternoon!!  :rofl;
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