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« on: December 12, 2008, 02:01:33 PM »

I would like to consider myself as one of the more optimistic kinds of persons. But I think realisticly when we all sit with ourselves within our most private thoughts, we have a moment or two where we think to ourselves, "Had this or that not gone this or that way, just for that split second of a moment. Just that one decision. To drive when its stormy, or forget to say I love you. I would like to hear some stories that fit within this subject.





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« Reply #1 on: December 12, 2008, 02:08:34 PM »

and I know that maybe it's they aren't 'bad decisions'. But I used that word because people are taken so suddenly from us, and I know that that is life, however I am a firm believer in wishing for a wand if I had one. Not just to fix things, but to keep people we love here with us longer. I also realize though, that these things do occur for an overall intended purpose, and to help us grow in different ways.
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« Reply #2 on: December 12, 2008, 11:34:47 PM »

I try hard not to dwell on what has happend - because is has happened and I can't undo it however much I wish I could. I just get on with what life throws at me (although most days I just wish it would give me a break) and get on as best I can.  'What ifs' only bring me down, make my mind go round in circles and achieve nothing, so I don't go there anymore.  Hindsight is a marvelous thing  :)
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« Reply #3 on: December 13, 2008, 09:27:40 AM »


I believe that things happen the way they are meant to. Sometimes we don't know or understand why, things just are.
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« Reply #4 on: December 13, 2008, 09:35:28 AM »

Getting ESRD and having a leg amputated has brought me to a point that everything else that happens thru daily life are just minor annoyances...Boxman
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« Reply #5 on: December 13, 2008, 01:10:54 PM »

Kidney disease has made me change a lot.  I don't say "what if" anymore.  I appreciate the day I am living and the people around me.  No more regrets.  Now in my quiet moments I think "did I remember to tell someone how special they are to me" or "thank you".     Escobarak, this is a good thread.  :2thumbsup;
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« Reply #6 on: December 13, 2008, 02:11:17 PM »

I try to think that even bad things have some good come from them.  I don't have Renal Failure, but "it's always something".  I've had some Horrible[/i] things happen in my life.  Horrible, if I didn't mention... But, to look back, things happened a certain way because of them\it. I have to look at whatever good came from those things.   :cuddle;
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« Reply #7 on: December 13, 2008, 09:32:56 PM »

I do know if I had not gone back to a kidney site and hunted for the funny sounding name of a site called IHateDialysis.com I would not have met the nice and wonderful friends I have found here.  But for the click of a mouse!
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« Reply #8 on: December 14, 2008, 09:29:20 AM »

I truly believe that if I had not ignored everyone when they told me I had high blood pressure, and if I had not allowed myself to become fat, I would not be on dialysis today.  Not one person ever told me that untreated high blood pressure could lead to kidney failure.  Anyhoo, too late to look back; I just keep looking forward.
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« Reply #9 on: December 15, 2008, 08:03:23 PM »

I try to think that even bad things have some good come from them.  I don't have Renal Failure, but "it's always something".  I've had some Horrible[/i] things happen in my life.  Horrible, if I didn't mention... But, to look back, things happened a certain way because of them\it. I have to look at whatever good came from those things.   :cuddle;

I know what you mean. Well, even though you may not have renal failure, I would welcome a story or two from you, especially since I'd be willing to bet that you have some great ones to tell.  :cuddle;

You know when you said "it's always something."? I can relate in the sense that just when everything seems to be going steady, and feeling good, and you feel like you might be happy, the universe says "We gotta get him/her! >:D" God, I hate that feeling.
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« Reply #10 on: December 15, 2008, 08:06:58 PM »

Kidney disease has made me change a lot.  I don't say "what if" anymore.  I appreciate the day I am living and the people around me.  No more regrets.  Now in my quiet moments I think "did I remember to tell someone how special they are to me" or "thank you".     Escobarak, this is a good thread.  :2thumbsup;

Thanks, Paris. I agree with you. Since my diagnosis a few months ago, I constantly think those same thoughts, and whenever I get pissed about something, It's easier to find a way to get over it and make peace. I guess sickness can really be a different kind of healing.  :)
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« Reply #11 on: December 16, 2008, 05:18:02 AM »

I used to be a Hospice Nurse, for a long time.  I have watched a lot of people die.  Some stories... :secret; Anyway,  I think any chronic or terminal illness is both a blessing and a burden.  The burden is of course the disease.  The blessing is that you see everything and everyone in a different light, and you quickly learn to say things you wouldn't have said to people.  You get over things quicker.  I always have to look, sometimes really hard, for "what good will come from this.".  Whatever is going on.  And there is always something good.   :)
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« Reply #12 on: December 16, 2008, 01:57:19 PM »

Anyway,  I think any chronic or terminal illness is both a blessing and a burden.  The burden is of course the disease.  The blessing is that you see everything and everyone in a different light
I agree with that...Boxman
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« Reply #13 on: December 16, 2008, 05:29:10 PM »

I told my brother a few months ago that I kind of feel lucky because I know what my disease is and how to live with it.   Now, I can move forward and not waste one day.  There is something each day to give thanks for - well, somedays you have to really search!  It is a hard wake up call and I hate it.  But, it brought me here and that is a huge  blessing for me!   You do see things differently. 
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« Reply #14 on: December 16, 2008, 06:43:54 PM »

That's a good point, Paris.   At least with ESRD we have options other than "waiting" and "death".
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« Reply #15 on: December 31, 2008, 03:06:51 AM »

I try to think that even bad things have some good come from them.  I don't have Renal Failure, but "it's always something".  I've had some Horrible[/i] things happen in my life.  Horrible, if I didn't mention... But, to look back, things happened a certain way because of them\it. I have to look at whatever good came from those things.   :cuddle;

I know what you mean. Well, even though you may not have renal failure, I would welcome a story or two from you, especially since I'd be willing to bet that you have some great ones to tell.  :cuddle;

You know when you said "it's always something."? I can relate in the sense that just when everything seems to be going steady, and feeling good, and you feel like you might be happy, the universe says "We gotta get him/her! >:D" God, I hate that feeling.
Kidney disease has made me change a lot.  I don't say "what if" anymore.  I appreciate the day I am living and the people around me.  No more regrets.  Now in my quiet moments I think "did I remember to tell someone how special they are to me" or "thank you".     Escobarak, this is a good thread.  :2thumbsup;

Thanks, Paris. I agree with you. Since my diagnosis a few months ago, I constantly think those same thoughts, and whenever I get pissed about something, It's easier to find a way to get over it and make peace. I guess sickness can really be a different kind of healing.  :)


1>yeah i've gotten that "universe out to get me" feeling alot...it comes and goes....not good...but i also know that the good things happen too...i mean all i gotta do is think of my niece and my nephew and i know that i've got good stuff too....

2>i think more about that kind of stuff too....and i try and let the people i love and care about know how i feel about them. because you never know when it's gonna be your turn. or there's. i  know when dan (my brother) died, i know he knew how i felt but we had argued and i didin't see him again before he died....that was really hard for me to deal with....it was easier on me (well i say easier but i guess better would be the best word, or i don't know) when my mom passed last year because the last thing i told her was i love her... if you get my meaning....i can't seem to get the wording right. it's still a hard thing...but it was better because i knew the last thing she heard from me was of love...and not the argument i had with dan. so i think it's less guilt more than easier or whatever. better to leave someone with good words...than to storm out fighting...because you just never know
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« Reply #16 on: December 31, 2008, 03:40:42 PM »

We all have our issues to deal with.  Having a lot of "woulda, shoulda, coulda's" only weighs on the mind and saddens the heart.  Find the brighter side of everything.  Smile often. Laugh with your entire soul.  Greet each day as a new challenge and face it.  A positive attitude is the greatest healing force ever known.

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« Reply #17 on: December 31, 2008, 05:02:49 PM »

We all have our issues to deal with.  Having a lot of "woulda, shoulda, coulda's" only weighs on the mind and saddens the heart.  Find the brighter side of everything.  Smile often. Laugh with your entire soul.  Greet each day as a new challenge and face it.  A positive attitude is the greatest healing force ever known.

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And that's why I love a sense of humor. As much stuff I have had, can't look past, just move forward. Yes I made mistakes when I was younger and at the time I had fun and didn't think about the consequences, but I didn't have the knowledge at the time. Technology didn't exist to look it up, nor did small town libraries have all the information. I may not like my situation, but I enjoy having fun when I can with it.

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« Reply #18 on: January 01, 2009, 07:19:43 PM »

I heard this once and it stuck with me about wondering about the decisions we've made: "regrets are only mistakes we didn't learn a lesson from" and I think it fits very well.  We can't change the past but as long as we can learn from it we'll be that much wiser in the future. 

I was born with my kidney disease and I continually struggle with the feeling that the universe is out to get me, but if I dwell on the thought that life is unfair to me and feel sorry for myself it gets me nowhere but to a bad, dark place.  I can't change my genetics, I can't change the past, so whenever I find myself about to throw myself a pity party I try to remember not to let things I can't change ruin the present!  That's also a quote from my boyfriend, who helps keep me focused and snaps me back to the present when I feel down. 
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« Reply #19 on: January 02, 2009, 01:59:42 AM »

i had this question for a while. if we did the right thing for Nanay, to put her on dialysis, is dialysis worth it? after we'eve seen the terrible things she had gone through with dialysis. sometimes, i would ask myself, maybe she could have been better and prolonged her kidney function instead of having dialysis. But deep in my heart, i know we did the right thing, prolonging her life, having her much more.
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« Reply #20 on: January 02, 2009, 08:43:56 AM »

You know what's interesting is that I often think have I made the right decision? with having a failed transplant and nowhaving dialysis and having to deal with acceptance in my life style, sometimes dealing with denial by living a dream.... the reality is that i must just learn to live with "things happen" what happened to me is my destiny, I would love to change it but hey i can't... things have happened to me for a reason, I often remember my previous life;  drinking, partying travelling and now having to life with limits and out of bounds areas in my life is very hard to accept and change... but more and more each day and with positive thoughts I am more and more accepting that my life has changed and the decisions that I am having to make now and forever are real and this is now my life, living with dialysis and one day if I can get another kidney and it works that this is my life.....

I have noticed that even my personally has changed towards to people for the better, I listen and try and understand people more and this a quality that I really like about myself and this has definitely come about since my transplant and dailysis situation...

Excellent topic for discussion escobarak and IHD

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« Reply #21 on: January 02, 2009, 10:09:16 AM »

Hilrose, if I may ask what caused your kidney to reject?  That is so terrifying to me.  I just hit 8 weeks post transplant on 12/31/08 and rejection is so scary.  My transplant doctor said that medications are so good these days, that unless I am noncompliant with meds or there is some sort of trauma to the kidney  ie. accident, injury, untreated infection, etc., that there really should be no reason this kidney should reject.  I was pre-dialysis and received a healthy living kidney.  What are your thoughts?
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« Reply #22 on: January 02, 2009, 10:24:29 AM »

Kelly,  I had my transplant two weeks before you had yours and I have the same concern.  I was pre-dialysis and received a cadaver kidney *bless the family of this person*.  Somewhere in the back of my mind I thought everything would be perfect, but now I realize that it's just another road in my journey.  And we never know where the forks are going to pop up.  I try to take one day at a time and face things as they come.  Having rejection issues from the beginning makes it even worse.  I am controlled now with the meds, but who knows when a new issue will arise.  Guess we just keep on keeping on and consider ourselves VERY lucky to have this chance.  My children ask...."If something goes wrong with this one, will you go for transplant again?"   HELL YES!  I have a lot of stubborn in me!
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« Reply #23 on: January 02, 2009, 10:31:50 AM »

Kelly and Vicki, that worry goes away for the most part over time. I use to think about it a lot, but now it is not at the forefront of my concerns.
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« Reply #24 on: January 02, 2009, 10:44:13 AM »

It is only human nature to say "what if"  when something bad happens but you should also think about the "what if" when something good happens.  What if I hadn't gone shopping one day to a shopping centre I don't usually go to and I hadn't seen the cutest puppy I had ever seen in the pet shop.  I wouldn't now have the love and loyalty I have from that little bundle.  Like Kit said, if I hadn't stumbled over IHD on the internet what sort of mindset would I be in now going into dialysis - certainly not as prepared as I am.  Like nursewrachet said.  I also have had some really horrible things happen in my life.  I often think, what if I had never gone into the media.  I would not have had to endure the humiliation of what the competition media stable did to me in a full page story in their newspaper purely because they couldn't hack the competition.  But what am I doing now.  Starting my own media company and publishing my own publications.    I couldn't have even thought of doing that without the experience I acquired in their newsrooms and if I didn't have my kidney problem I wouldn't even be doing it.  Because of this disease I have the best "What have I got to lose" attitude and I am only now really giving life a go by addressing overwhelming obstacles and pushing forward. I think I am going to do a lot more with my life with this disease than I would have done without it. And let's face it, it is one of the better diseases to have.  If I had terminal cancer I would be saying what if I just had another six years instead of six months.  Thank God for dialysis.  It gives me the years and not the months. What if there was no dialysis machines?  There are far more positive "what ifs" than negative.  What if the glass wasn't half empty?  Guess what?  It would be half full!  This is a great topic and that is  :twocents; worth. xx    
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