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« on: October 09, 2008, 10:52:30 PM »

Hi guys

i was wondering if your blood levels are to high (phosphate & potassium) will the transplant unit cancel or postpone the surgery or does it not make a difference. i know my doc gave me meds to boost my redblood cells for anemia and mentioned that i would need to boost that before i have a transplant. but what about other levels?
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« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2008, 03:33:14 AM »

I wouldn't think so for phos and potass, Draven.  They dialysed me right before my last transplant as I recall and those things can be removed via dialysis.  You want to keep those under control for the good of your heart and bones anyway, transplant or no transplant.

I'm sure others will chime in on this too.  My last transplant was a long time ago.
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« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2008, 03:24:19 PM »

my potassium and creatinine levels were so high  i would die on  the operating table if i didn't have dialysis as my levels were at a lethal levels,  they had an emergency permacath placed started dialysis 2 days later. i was dialyzed day b4 transplant.. hope this answer your question..Chris
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« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2008, 04:39:55 PM »

Draven's already on D, Chris, but that's important for pre-dialysis patients having a pre-emptive transplant.
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Pyelonephritis (began at 8 mos old)
Home haemo 1980-1985 (self-cannulated with 15 gauge sharps)
Cadaveric transplant 1985
New upper-arm fistula April 2008
Uldall-Cook catheter inserted May 2008
Haemo-dialysis, self care unit June 2008
(2 1/2 hours X 5 weekly)
Self-cannulated, 15 gauge blunts, buttonholes.
Living donor transplant (sister-in law Kathy) Feb. 2009
First failed kidney transplant removed Apr.  2009
Second trx doing great so far...all lab values in normal ranges
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« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2008, 10:59:55 PM »

Thanks for the responses. the transplant unit said i would be dialyzed right up to the transplant. so i suppose i will be dialyzed on the Monday and have the surgery on the Wednesday. i was just worried that if my levels are too high they might cancel the surgery.
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« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2008, 07:04:47 AM »

Can you see if you could dialyze later on Tuesday instead of the Monday?  Then you'd only have to be very careful about your food intake for that one  evening.  Preparing for surgery the following day you likely would have to be fasting anyway.
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Pyelonephritis (began at 8 mos old)
Home haemo 1980-1985 (self-cannulated with 15 gauge sharps)
Cadaveric transplant 1985
New upper-arm fistula April 2008
Uldall-Cook catheter inserted May 2008
Haemo-dialysis, self care unit June 2008
(2 1/2 hours X 5 weekly)
Self-cannulated, 15 gauge blunts, buttonholes.
Living donor transplant (sister-in law Kathy) Feb. 2009
First failed kidney transplant removed Apr.  2009
Second trx doing great so far...all lab values in normal ranges
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« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2008, 09:50:18 AM »

i was thinking about that. i will bring that up with my dialysis unit.
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« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2008, 07:01:37 PM »

I dialyzed the morning of my surgery; I figured that was probably standard procedure(?)
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« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2008, 07:39:51 PM »

Maybe it is, if it isn't, it really should be the standard procedure.
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Pyelonephritis (began at 8 mos old)
Home haemo 1980-1985 (self-cannulated with 15 gauge sharps)
Cadaveric transplant 1985
New upper-arm fistula April 2008
Uldall-Cook catheter inserted May 2008
Haemo-dialysis, self care unit June 2008
(2 1/2 hours X 5 weekly)
Self-cannulated, 15 gauge blunts, buttonholes.
Living donor transplant (sister-in law Kathy) Feb. 2009
First failed kidney transplant removed Apr.  2009
Second trx doing great so far...all lab values in normal ranges
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« Reply #9 on: October 11, 2008, 11:52:58 PM »

Without thinking about the implications, my husband ate a subway sandwich with tomato slices for lunch right before he checked in for his transplant.    That was 18 hours before his surgery was supposed to begin.  Later that afternoon they came in to draw blood.  When it was analyzed they came back with the news that his potassium was too high for surgery!!!  They did not have plans to dialyze him that day, as he had been dialyzed the day before.  Instead they had him drink a suspension of tiny resin beads.  I think it was called Kayexalate. It "scrubbed" the potassium from his gastrointestinal tract and brought his blood level down sufficiently for the surgery.
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« Reply #10 on: October 18, 2008, 10:02:09 AM »

I think it was called Kayexalate. It "scrubbed" the potassium from his gastrointestinal tract and brought his blood level down sufficiently for the surgery.

Oh yummy, Kayexalate  :sarcasm; I had to drink that nasty stuff every day for almost 1 1/2 years for my potassium prior to getting my transplant. It was not a  small dose either - it was like 1/2 of a standard size bottle of cough medicine per day. My monthly supply was 4 or 5 large bottles. There were days I could barely gag that stuff down - it was thick and gritty and looked liked baby poop (tasted nasty too - although they tried to make it "better" by adding cherry flavoring.) Even the pharmacists felt bad for me when they saw I had to drink that sh_ _!
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« Reply #11 on: October 18, 2008, 11:58:26 PM »

Had a look at my latest blood results and my potassium is high. the range is supposed to be between 2.00 and 5.00 and mine is 7.4

guess i better watch what im eating. any tips for lowering potassium levels.
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