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« Reply #50 on: October 23, 2017, 09:21:13 AM »

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Simon Dog, you can say that "there is enough dirt on both sides", but that doesn't make it true.  It's just not true.  Again, that's a false equivalency.  It is just not true.
An assertion does not equal proof.

Can you name one thing Trump has done to line his pockets at the expense of America (rather than at the expense of business rivals and customers)?   I refer specifically to the Uranium One deal.

I do know that I would never want to be a contractor working for Trump, or a student in one his now defunct pseudo-schools.

Hatred of the "other side" (whatever that side may be) tends to make one blind to the sleaziness of their party's candidate and hyper sensitive to it on the part of the enemy.  One symptom of this distortion is falling into the trap of believing one's own option is "fact" rather than "opinion".
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You say that your *president* isn't on that page. How to you explain an independent, a-political agency's rating of these two charities?
Dang, they won't rate my 501(c)(3) until I get $1M a year in revenues.
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« Reply #51 on: October 23, 2017, 11:59:45 AM »


Is there any woman on this forum who has NOT EVER been groped or felt up?




I must have been extremely lucky, because I never ever had such an experience...
... Until I met my husband I lived alone ... and ...  whilst I lived alone, I always dressed in blue Jeans which were three to four sizes too big for my size and my Pullovers were always a complete over-size, even so I have always been a very small size "underneath" these oversize clothes  ...
... Adding to that, whenever I travelled, I always "sported" a very visible "engagement-ring", which I had purchased ages ago in a Charity Shop especially for "travelling-purposes".
I also told anyone who asked, that I specialized in Philosophy and European Literature, and that might have also inspired some to run a mile  ...
So, on one hand I feel I was extremely lucky, on the other hand I certainly gave out clear signals with my over-sized clothes and "engagement-ring"  ... and ...  perhaps, I might have gone a bit into "overdrive" with all these clear signals, it certainly "did the trick" and worked in my favour...
Best wishes from Kristina. :grouphug;

I'm sorry kristina, but it sounds like you're blaming women for wearing clothes that actually fit. So what you seem to be saying (at least to me) is that if a woman chooses to buy and wear clothes that actually fit her body, she is "asking for it". Are you serious??? I'd rather not wear clothes that are way too big for my body, that will not only look gross, but impede me from moving and getting around like a normal person. Not only that, but talk about a way to look like one is severely depressed! No thank you! And when are some people going to get the clue that it has nothing to do with how you dress or even how you look - it is a power thing??? Seriously???

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I think Kristina is saying that she knew this could be an issue so she protected herself when traveling alone.  It is not that women who dress in clothes that fit are asking for it.  There are just precautions that some women feel they need to take to stay safe.  It is sad that we feel like as women that we have to protect ourselves.  I don't go out to stores after dark by myself anymore to help protect myself.  I am not saying that women that go out after dark are asking to be assaulted, I just know the chances of assault in my area are higher after dark.  But sometimes, you can take all the precautions in the world and things still happen.  Sexual assault is never the victim's fault.  Period.   
About a year ago at work, one of the male RNs wolf whistled at me on the treatment floor in front of the patients and staff.  He then said that his wife let him look as long as he didn't touch.  Creeped me out so bad... He was in his 60s, old enough to be my father.  I was not wearing a low cut blouse or anything.  Just wide leg trousers and a work appropriate blouse with ballet flats.  I don't understand it.  Thankfully, I have never been groped or assaulted, but I have been a victim of a peeping tom.  I can't imagine being assaulted.   
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« Reply #52 on: October 23, 2017, 12:25:40 PM »

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There are just precautions that some women feel they need to take to stay safe.
The Glock 43 is an excellent choice along with a 2oz sized Fox 5.3 pepper spray.
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« Reply #53 on: October 23, 2017, 12:49:03 PM »


Is there any woman on this forum who has NOT EVER been groped or felt up?




I must have been extremely lucky, because I never ever had such an experience...
... Until I met my husband I lived alone ... and ...  whilst I lived alone, I always dressed in blue Jeans which were three to four sizes too big for my size and my Pullovers were always a complete over-size, even so I have always been a very small size "underneath" these oversize clothes  ...
... Adding to that, whenever I travelled, I always "sported" a very visible "engagement-ring", which I had purchased ages ago in a Charity Shop especially for "travelling-purposes".
I also told anyone who asked, that I specialized in Philosophy and European Literature, and that might have also inspired some to run a mile  ...
So, on one hand I feel I was extremely lucky, on the other hand I certainly gave out clear signals with my over-sized clothes and "engagement-ring"  ... and ...  perhaps, I might have gone a bit into "overdrive" with all these clear signals, it certainly "did the trick" and worked in my favour...
Best wishes from Kristina. :grouphug;

I'm sorry kristina, but it sounds like you're blaming women for wearing clothes that actually fit. So what you seem to be saying (at least to me) is that if a woman chooses to buy and wear clothes that actually fit her body, she is "asking for it". Are you serious??? I'd rather not wear clothes that are way too big for my body, that will not only look gross, but impede me from moving and getting around like a normal person. Not only that, but talk about a way to look like one is severely depressed! No thank you! And when are some people going to get the clue that it has nothing to do with how you dress or even how you look - it is a power thing??? Seriously???

KarenInWA

I think Kristina is saying that she knew this could be an issue so she protected herself when traveling alone.  It is not that women who dress in clothes that fit are asking for it.  There are just precautions that some women feel they need to take to stay safe.  It is sad that we feel like as women that we have to protect ourselves.  I don't go out to stores after dark by myself anymore to help protect myself.  I am not saying that women that go out after dark are asking to be assaulted, I just know the chances of assault in my area are higher after dark.  But sometimes, you can take all the precautions in the world and things still happen.  Sexual assault is never the victim's fault.  Period.   
About a year ago at work, one of the male RNs wolf whistled at me on the treatment floor in front of the patients and staff.  He then said that his wife let him look as long as he didn't touch.  Creeped me out so bad... He was in his 60s, old enough to be my father.  I was not wearing a low cut blouse or anything.  Just wide leg trousers and a work appropriate blouse with ballet flats.  I don't understand it.  Thankfully, I have never been groped or assaulted, but I have been a victim of a peeping tom.  I can't imagine being assaulted.   

Many thanks smartcookie for your kind understanding and your kind support, it is very much appreciated.
To be honest, I have no idea whether my way is the right one or not, I just did everything by instinct and have been lucky so far (touch wood it continues like that!).
You are right, it is indeed very sad what we have to put up with sometimes! That guy who wolf-whistled at you at the treatment floor, explaining, that his wife let him look (and wolf-whistle...) as long as he didn't touch... he would have given me the creeps as well. Some people !
Thanks again and I send you my kind regards and best wishes from Kristina. :grouphug;
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« Reply #54 on: October 23, 2017, 12:54:24 PM »

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There are just precautions that some women feel they need to take to stay safe.
The Glock 43 is an excellent choice along with a 2oz sized Fox 5.3 pepper spray.

To my knowledge these items are unfortunately illegal here in England...
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« Reply #55 on: October 23, 2017, 01:25:59 PM »

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There are just precautions that some women feel they need to take to stay safe.
The Glock 43 is an excellent choice along with a 2oz sized Fox 5.3 pepper spray.

To my knowledge these items are unfortunately illegal here in England...
Did not notice you were in England.   Probably just as well, since self defense is pretty much outlawed in England.
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« Reply #56 on: October 23, 2017, 02:25:44 PM »

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There are just precautions that some women feel they need to take to stay safe.
The Glock 43 is an excellent choice along with a 2oz sized Fox 5.3 pepper spray.

To my knowledge these items are unfortunately illegal here in England...
Did not notice you were in England.   Probably just as well, since self defense is pretty much outlawed in England.

Thanks Simon for putting it in such an excellent way! The way you put it just points out how very wrong "things" can sometimes become !!!
That reminds me: Did I tell you that it was recently revealed in newspapers, that some prisoners here in England are employed by Insurance Companies (for a little pocket money) to phone (from their prison-cells) valuable customers of Insurance Companies to enquire about their "valuable goodies"? And how secure and where these valuables are kept ... ?
Your guess is as good as mine when theorizing about where some people might be heading as soon as they are set free again... 
Sometimes this world seems just a little bit crazy ... and sometimes one has to be careful not to become dizzy when reading about it all ... ::)
Best wishes from Kristina.
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« Reply #57 on: October 23, 2017, 02:32:05 PM »

Titbits from Englant:

- Fire extinguishers were removed from an apartment building, since only professionals should fight fire. (http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/fire-extinguishers-removed-terrified-oaps-10740124, http://www.harboroughmail.co.uk/news/fire-extinguishers-removed-from-housing-association-flats-1-6033691).  The second one describes a removal right after a resident used an extinguisher to put put out a fire. 

- Parts of England have banned barb wire fences since it can injure vandels (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/6137644/Allotment-barbed-wire-banned-as-a-danger-to-vandals.html)

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Titbits from England:
...The police have recently informed the public that they cannot assist or help any longer in case of a burglary ...
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« Reply #59 on: October 23, 2017, 03:11:14 PM »

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Can you name one thing Trump has done to line his pockets at the expense of America (rather than at the expense of business rivals and customers)?   I refer specifically to the Uranium One deal.

Um.

What about over-the-top numbers of trips to Trump properties where the American people are paying not only for his use of those properties, but the rooms for the entire entourage of security personnel.

And the same is true for Trump Tower in NY. The Secret Service was quickly depleting its budget having to rent an entire floor of that building (along with having to provide security for the excessive golfing trips).

And just for the record, he not only DID NOT divest himself of business holdings that might create a conflict of interest, but he acted in the exact opposite of his promise by bringing his family into the circle of his advisors. So now they are on the payroll of the American people.

Emoluments, anybody?
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« Reply #60 on: October 23, 2017, 03:16:47 PM »

Good points.
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« Reply #61 on: October 23, 2017, 04:17:49 PM »

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Can you name one thing Trump has done to line his pockets at the expense of America (rather than at the expense of business rivals and customers)?   I refer specifically to the Uranium One deal.

Um.

What about over-the-top numbers of trips to Trump properties where the American people are paying not only for his use of those properties, but the rooms for the entire entourage of security personnel. ...
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Can you name one thing Trump has done to line his pockets at the expense of America (rather than at the expense of business rivals and customers)?   I refer specifically to the Uranium One deal.


There is also the matter of his inauguration fund that raised well over 100 million dollars for an inauguration that could not of cost more than half that (what Obama spent) and likely cost much less http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-inaugural-funds-charity-2017-9
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« Reply #63 on: October 23, 2017, 05:32:25 PM »

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inauguration fund that raised well over 100 million dollars for an inauguration

Of course, he is making "good" use of all that money by using it to pay for lawyers for his "precious" and corrupt Don Jr.
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« Reply #64 on: October 25, 2017, 10:21:47 AM »

Now.... this is officially off topic from Harvey Weinstein............  Let's get back to it folks.

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« Reply #65 on: October 25, 2017, 02:51:14 PM »

Now.... this is officially off topic from Harvey Weinstein............  Let's get back to it folks.

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And off topic of sexual assault by people who have influence over the victims...
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