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Title: Sears Discriminating???
Post by: Rerun on June 03, 2008, 06:54:30 PM
I applied for a part-time job at Sears a few weeks ago.  He seemed to like me and told me he would call me to come down for a drug test.  I told him that because I have no kidney function that I don't produce urine for a test, but we could do a blood test or hair sample.  He said he would check it out. 

He never called, so I called him 10 days ago.  He said the corporation hadn't decided wheather or not to spend the money on a blood test.  Hmmmmmmm?

He said he would call me.  No call.  Now I see the same job advertised "again" for the same store.

Do I take them on?  Would they be so stupid to not give me reasonable accommodations?  You would think a big company like Sears would have heard of the Disability Act.
Title: Re: Sears Discriminating???
Post by: Sluff on June 03, 2008, 07:26:38 PM
It sucks, but I don't know if you could win against a big company like that.
Title: Re: Sears Discriminating???
Post by: Chris on June 03, 2008, 07:36:00 PM
Since KMart owns them, couldn't they use a KMart Pharmacy who has one of those in store doctors offices?
If you do investigate further on taking them on, keep detailed information from the begining of conversations with them. Hopefully someone can answer your question.
Title: Re: Sears Discriminating???
Post by: flip on June 03, 2008, 08:36:06 PM
I think it is a violation of ADA. You might contact ACLU and see what they say.
Title: Re: Sears Discriminating???
Post by: okarol on June 03, 2008, 10:08:57 PM


 ::) Drug testing for Sears? It's not like you're driving a bus or operating a fork lift.
The guy just doesn't want to be bothered. Jerk. I'd call the head office and ask who to contact regarding discrimination.
Title: Re: Sears Discriminating???
Post by: monrein on June 04, 2008, 04:45:43 AM
That sure does sound discriminatory and a real kick in the teeth.  I hope you do try to take it further and get it resolved.  It's maddening though that you even should have to do that.
Good luck Rerun.
Title: Re: Sears Discriminating???
Post by: bolta72 on June 04, 2008, 04:58:20 AM
Sounds like he didn't want to get back to you because of your illness. I would file a complaint. :boxing;
Title: Re: Sears Discriminating???
Post by: st789 on June 04, 2008, 07:10:02 AM
Discrimination against disability people, Wow.... what a surprise.  Big corp. should make reasonable accomodations.

Title: Re: Sears Discriminating???
Post by: Meinuk on June 04, 2008, 08:12:18 AM
Rerun, it is up to you how far you want to take this.  It is a good opportunity to shame Sears and get some press for CKD.  I know, all you want is a part time job for some extra cash, and what you get is a hassle.  But, the fact is, more and more of us are in the work force, and we deserve to have the right to work.

Lawsuits are expensive, but going to the local news outlets is free.  If you feel up to it, you could make a very public stand.  Here you are ready able and willing to work, and Sears shuts you down.

Thinking of you,

Anna
Title: Re: Sears Discriminating???
Post by: Rerun on June 04, 2008, 01:36:39 PM
Thanks for the input and support guys!

                            :grouphug;
Title: Re: Sears Discriminating???
Post by: thegrammalady on June 04, 2008, 01:48:46 PM
if it were me, i'd fight. it is against ada and you can call them directly. if this is a one time thing ada basically just yells. however if this is corporate policy ada does have teeth fairly big ones. try calling the head of hr at the store and let them know what happened, then if necessary turn them into ada.
Title: Re: Sears Discriminating???
Post by: Deanne on June 13, 2008, 01:10:55 PM
I know they won't care / will ignore me, but I found an email address and told them not to expect to see me in their store anymore because of this. They probably get hundreds of complaints a week so they probably won't even notice mine. I'm sorry this happened to you.
Title: Re: Sears Discriminating???
Post by: Rerun on June 30, 2008, 02:12:38 PM
I know they won't care / will ignore me, but I found an email address and told them not to expect to see me in their store anymore because of this. They probably get hundreds of complaints a week so they probably won't even notice mine. I'm sorry this happened to you.

Thanks Deanne.  I got the job!  They emailed me that the company would provide alternative drug testing.  They cut 3 huge chunks out of my hair at the lab.  Just so you know....if you don't have hair on your head they shave your arm pits!  NO LIE!   I've had 3 hours of training and get four more this Thursday.  I hope I can do it.  I have to walk around the store for 4 hours.  Today my back is killing me.  I think that dialysis chair for 8 hours is playing havoc with my back muscles. 

I'm glad I have a part-time job.  I'll be approaching people and trying to get them sign up for a free home estimate from our home improvement specialist.  Siding, windows, flooring etc.

Pray that my body can hold up, because today I couldn't do it. 
Title: Re: Sears Discriminating???
Post by: twirl on June 30, 2008, 02:28:36 PM
and if you have no hair on your head or under your arms------ then what----------- Sears is going to far--------
I will be cheering for you----- four hours in a chair is a long time but walking around a store, seems harder--
I hope everyone is nice to you. I am nice and say no thanks until they insist and get pushy...
hope you make commissions
Title: Re: Sears Discriminating???
Post by: charee on June 30, 2008, 03:57:43 PM
thats great rerun , it should get easier well i hope :2thumbsup;
Title: Re: Sears Discriminating???
Post by: kitkatz on July 01, 2008, 06:45:54 PM
Hey Rerun can you get me a disocunt.  Hehehehe! Good luck in the new job!
Title: Re: Sears Discriminating???
Post by: boxman55 on July 01, 2008, 07:03:12 PM
I love Sears ever since I went for new shoes back when I was in grade school in the 60's I always stop in when I go to the mall. I was just there. I motored around every where in my electric chair. Found what I needed too. Rerun if your back is hurting on the job go sit on one of the lawn tractors and give your pitch from there...Boxman
Title: Re: Sears Discriminating???
Post by: okarol on July 01, 2008, 07:04:26 PM
 :clap; Hey congrats Rerun! Jobs are tough to come by! I hope all goes well!
Title: Re: Sears Discriminating???
Post by: flip on July 01, 2008, 07:32:18 PM
The Sears store here closed and K-Mart seems destined to follow. I hope they manage to recover. When I was young, all my clothes came from the local Sears catalog store.
Title: Re: Sears Discriminating???
Post by: thegrammalady on July 01, 2008, 10:32:59 PM
I know they won't care / will ignore me, but I found an email address and told them not to expect to see me in their store anymore because of this. They probably get hundreds of complaints a week so they probably won't even notice mine. I'm sorry this happened to you.

they get thousands. sears national customer relations (used to be located near golden colorado) is now located in texas. hasn't been in chicago or hoffman estates for years. the sears tower isn't even owned by sears any longer. they just want you to think you're calling the corporate offices....who me, i'm telling tales out of school, i used to work for them. the office was outsourced, sears took it in house and moved the call center to texas, it's still there as far as i know.
Title: Re: Sears Discriminating???
Post by: Meinuk on July 02, 2008, 10:35:24 AM
Rerun,

I think it is great that sears finally came through for you.  I hope that you are able to ease yourself back into work.  I really do think that it is just a case of building up stamina.  The way my GP in Boston explained the changes that my body was going through was using a horse metaphor.  (was she hinting that I was getting to be the size of?  Or that I was a stubborn as...?) Either way, it helped me understand why I couldn't be working & playing like I used to, but that has come back now that I am fully dialyzed.  (I hope that Nocturnal is still going well for you)

When we are sick and not active, it is like a racehorse that has been kept in it's stall for months, you need to slowly rebuild what muscle and stamina that was lost, and you have to be careful when you first start out not to strain yourself.

I just hope that the extra cash will come in handy for Vegas (fingers crossed) and that you'll have a good time just getting out of the house.

Meanwhile, welcome to the working world!
Title: Re: Sears Discriminating???
Post by: twirl on July 11, 2008, 05:43:27 PM
how is your job going
please let us know
we are rooting for you
Title: Re: Sears Discriminating???
Post by: Rerun on August 14, 2008, 03:41:25 PM
My job is to approach people and ask them if they would like a FREE estimate on home improvement projects like new windows, doors, siding, heating/air or kitchen remodel.   I do my job but they want 1 lead an hour.  I'm sorry, but one week I didn't get any.  I work about 4 hours a day for 3 days. 

So, I get the call today that if I can't get more leads they are going to have to let me go.  I feel like quiting but I think I'll make them fire me.  I might as well make $8.07 per hour until they do.

I got 1 lead today during the 4 hours.  That is 3 short.

I HATE when they talk statistics.  If you ask 99 people you should get 1 to say yes.  That is bull shit.  That is the same with a transplant.  You may have to wait 2 years.  Well, that means you could get called today or never. 

I'm going back to Craigs List to look for another job.  I don't want to work weekends either.

Title: Re: Sears Discriminating???
Post by: Chris on August 14, 2008, 06:24:48 PM
If they fire you, can't you collect unemployment while you look for another job? They usually have to pay into that, so take them for what it's worth.
Title: Re: Sears Discriminating???
Post by: paris on August 14, 2008, 06:27:27 PM
With the economy in such a mess, wouldn't there be fewer people doing big home improvements?  I think it would be very hard to meet their target of 1 an hour.  I'm sorry it isn't working out.  Hope your back is doing better.  :grouphug;
Title: Re: Sears Discriminating???
Post by: Rerun on August 15, 2008, 05:15:24 AM
If they fire you, can't you collect unemployment while you look for another job? They usually have to pay into that, so take them for what it's worth.

I'm not sure since I was only part-time and I'm already receiving Social Security.  This bothers me but I'm trying NOT to let it.  I am out there on the floor trying.  I come to work on time and do my best.  I should be happy about that.  Maybe I'm too honest and I don't try and swindle people.
Title: Re: Sears Discriminating???
Post by: Deanne on August 15, 2008, 08:11:25 AM
I think that would be a very hard job! Whenever I see someone trying to get leads like that, I make a wide detour. I don't envy the person trying to get my contact information.
Title: Re: Sears Discriminating???
Post by: KT0930 on August 15, 2008, 04:47:01 PM
I admire you. No matter how good I feel, there's no way I could do your job. Doing it while undergoing dialysis would be unthinkable! One lead an hour does seem unreasonable, given the economy, but give 'em hell, Rerun!
Title: Re: Sears Discriminating???
Post by: Rerun on August 19, 2008, 02:47:27 PM
Today they had this lady "Michelle" come over from a different mall to help me or train me.  I thought "bring it on" because she won't get any leads either.  I'll be damned if she didn't get 3 leads for me.  She wore a long dress with a slit up to her ass and high heals.  Hmmmmm I wonder if that really helps.  She also talked really softly so the customer would have to get real close to hear her. 

New things to try.  I get to work one more day to see how I do. Michelle gave me one of her leads to keep in stock in case I need it one day.... like tomorrow.

She wasn't drop dead gorgeous but attractive with a big ass mole on her chin.  I know I'm not drop dead gorgeous either and I have freckles so maybe people just don't want to deal with me.

Who knows!?  I'll try again tomorrow.

                         :cheer:
Title: Re: Sears Discriminating???
Post by: monrein on August 20, 2008, 07:05:28 AM
I like freckles, I think they're cute.  I also know that people who have them don't like being told that by people who don't have them but one of my aunts has freckles and I just like them a whole helluva lot.  I'd stop to talk to someone with freckles a lot quicker than to someone with a slit in her skirt. 

Best of luck Rerun.
Title: Re: Sears Discriminating???
Post by: glitter on August 20, 2008, 11:40:42 AM
Some of the best people in the world are freckled-like my MOM!! I would trust a freckley person.   :2thumbsup;
Title: Re: Sears Discriminating???
Post by: Rerun on August 21, 2008, 09:02:10 AM
Well, I went to work with a black skirt with 2 slits up to my ass and a black tank top with a black and hot pink scarf!  I still didn't get any leads.  I guess they want me to work 3 hours today.  I'm exhausted!  I still feel if people want new windows they will tell me. 

I also asked this one lady twice accidentally and she said "no thank you, no thank you" twice like I asked her.  I hate bitches!  I should have said, "oh, I'm sorry, I usually recognize ugly women".   Grrrrrrrr

I should talk really quiet to people so they have to say "what"?   Like (really quiet)  "Hey, shit head do you want some windows"  They would say "what" and I would say "we are giving free estimates on replacement windows".   How about "hey FAT ASS do you want some windows"  I mean "how fast do you need windows"?   

Sorry!  I'm tired!
Title: Re: Sears Discriminating???
Post by: monrein on August 21, 2008, 01:37:08 PM
Oh Rerun how frustrating and irritating.  And then people are rude on top of it all. :cuddle;
Title: Re: Sears Discriminating???
Post by: Rerun on August 21, 2008, 03:10:32 PM
I got 2 leads on my own today.  They were right in a row; bam bam.  This is like bowling!  I hardly ever get a strike and when I do I don't know what I did different to get it!!!   I got another one but again they were from Idaho (30 miles away) and we don't have contractors in the area.

I also got asked out on a date!!!   :rofl;  The guy was from Canada and insisted on my phone number.  I haven't been asked out in years like not even in this century!  Well, Sluff has but he is a big tease!!!

I don't know if she will have me work again or not.  I took an application from Spokandy (a chocolate shop) Man, I would love to work there.  My labs would be bad but it would be worth it.


Title: Re: Sears Discriminating???
Post by: okarol on August 21, 2008, 04:42:16 PM

I am picturing you walking the streets with your split skirt - no wonder you got picked up!

Sell it with sex!

The chocolate place sounds good!  :2thumbsup;
Title: Re: Sears Discriminating???
Post by: Rerun on August 21, 2008, 05:26:35 PM
NO, NO!  Today I had on white pants with a sleezy top!  Remember my fluid problem..... my left boob is huge!  Maybe that is the one he saw.

                                       :rofl;
Title: Re: Sears Discriminating???
Post by: okarol on August 21, 2008, 05:30:02 PM


LMAO!!  :rofl;
Title: Re: Sears Discriminating???
Post by: monrein on August 21, 2008, 08:01:55 PM
DITTO  :rofl;
Title: Re: Sears Discriminating???
Post by: okarol on August 21, 2008, 09:28:47 PM

 :rofl; still laughing!  :rofl;
Title: Re: Sears Discriminating???
Post by: pelagia on August 22, 2008, 02:01:34 PM
Can you wear pink?  That might work with a different crowd.  :rofl;
Title: Re: Sears Discriminating???
Post by: monrein on August 22, 2008, 02:18:52 PM
Can you bring a gun to work?  Pretend you're a teacher in Texas?  "Excuse me Sir.  We're giving free estimates on replacement windows.  Oh, you're not interested...(Show gun to customer here)...might I convince you to reconsider that reply?   Great, you want yours AND the neighbours on each side done.  Fantastic.  We'll be there on Monday."   You'll be overrun with offers Rerun.
Title: Re: Sears Discriminating???
Post by: Chris on August 22, 2008, 04:42:53 PM
Can you bring a gun to work?  Pretend you're a teacher in Texas?  "Excuse me Sir.  We're giving free estimates on replacement windows.  Oh, you're not interested...(Show gun to customer here)...might I convince you to reconsider that reply?   Great, you want yours AND the neighbours on each side done.  Fantastic.  We'll be there on Monday."   You'll be overrun with offers Rerun.

 :rofl; :rofl; :rofl; :rofl; :rofl;
Title: Re: Sears Discriminating???
Post by: Rerun on August 22, 2008, 07:20:29 PM
Do you want a FREE Estimate?  NO?

                 :Kit n Stik;
Title: Re: Sears Discriminating???
Post by: okarol on August 22, 2008, 07:25:53 PM


Excuse me sir, can I interest you in renal replacement? -- WHAT???  -- I said, Can I interest you in window replacement?
Title: Re: Sears Discriminating???
Post by: Rerun on August 22, 2008, 07:26:45 PM
 :rofl;   Good one Karol!!
Title: Re: Sears Discriminating???
Post by: Rerun on August 26, 2008, 04:46:10 PM
Nothing from my boss until yesterday to work 3 hours today reminding me that I need at least 1 lead and it must be a "hot call" (meaning the customer has to call the call center and make an appt right then)  Well, I didn't get any.

I'm wondering if she is just stringing me along hoping I'll just quit.  AND I will when I find another job.  In the mean time if she does fire me I'm going to say.... "by the way since I am fully disabled I need you to write a letter to my social worker on Sears letterhead as to why I was fired."

    :sir ken;
Title: Re: Sears Discriminating???
Post by: okarol on August 26, 2008, 04:59:58 PM


I'll call and make an appointment, I need an estimate.  :clap;
Title: Re: Sears Discriminating???
Post by: thegrammalady on August 26, 2008, 08:14:55 PM

I'm wondering if she is just stringing me along hoping I'll just quit.  AND I will when I find another job.  In the mean time if she does fire me I'm going to say.... "by the way since I am fully disabled I need you to write a letter to my social worker on Sears letterhead as to why I was fired."

    :sir ken;

i think you should. you might also ask if you're allowed to go drag them in off the street? (i hate sales for this very reason)

Title: Re: Sears Discriminating???
Post by: Rerun on August 29, 2008, 10:56:19 AM
I got a message from my boss yesterday wondering why I didn't work yesterday?  I called her and left a message saying that I was not given a scheduel to work any other day except Tuesday.  I worked Tuesday and got no leads so I figured you were done with me.

I got the following email.... then I responded!

Darla,
 
You were termed clearly for not producing the minimums in productivity or in hot calls.
In July you ran a 24% Prod and 29% Hot calls. Through V2 of August you were at an .08 % Prod.     Our minimum is 33% Prod and 50% Hot.
 
Please be sure to fax me your time sheet for this week prior to Saturday. It was only 3 hours correct?
 
I will make arrangements to pick up the Sears property you have and must return as soon as possible. Or you can leave it with Rick or Michelle if you'd rather.
 
Good luck in your future endevors,







Debra,

I would really hate your job.  You are so focused on statistics that you lose all sight of common sense.  I am a good employee.  I am polite, dress professional, timely, and respectful to the customers.  In the long run you want Sears customers returning.

Since Sears obviously lost a huge amount of money on me I will not turn in my time sheet.  It would cost me $2 to fax it anyway. 

I will however turn in my Sears property to Michelle as soon as I get to Northtown.

Have a productive day.

Sincerely,

Darla Irwin

Title: Re: Sears Discriminating???
Post by: okarol on August 29, 2008, 07:23:16 PM


Termed? Sheesh sounds like you flat lined or something.

What a B*TCH!

She even misspelled endeavors - dumb ass.

Sue their butts.  :boxing;

Title: Re: Sears Discriminating???
Post by: Rerun on August 29, 2008, 08:21:05 PM
Damn I wish I would have noticed the "endeavors" misspelling I would have used that!!! 

                    :rofl;
Title: Re: Sears Discriminating???
Post by: kitkatz on August 30, 2008, 01:29:56 PM
She just wanted you to come in the other day so she could fire you herself.  When you did not show up it took the wind out of her sails!
Title: Re: Sears Discriminating???
Post by: twirl on November 05, 2008, 03:27:28 PM
you do not need that bitch in your life
find another job
and your letter to her was really 8)