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Title: Beware the Flu Shot
Post by: livecam on November 11, 2006, 11:41:44 AM
They were giving free flu shots at work the other day so I thought why not.  Better to walk down the hall and get it out of the way than drive over to Kaiser, go up to the third floor, and then fight to get back on the freeway.  Anyway I had the shot mid morning, by night I was really beat, just about falling asleep by 7:30.  I was out of Cellcept and had to get to the local Kaiser pharmacy that night to pick up the order so I pushed myself out the door and ran over there half asleep at the wheel.  By the next morning I felt almost hungover which is pretty unique since the last time I was really that way was in 1986.  Anyway the next two days were a blur of aches, pains, sleep, sleep, and more sleep.  Now on day 3 I'm starting to feel more like myself and am ready to go do something.  I can't think of anything that would have caused this other than the flu shot. Be careful with this year's flu vaccine, it might mess you up. 
Title: Re: Beware the Flu Shot
Post by: Fighter on November 11, 2006, 01:37:40 PM
I'm getting my flu shot on Monday, and I'm sure that it's such a great idea. Apparently even having taken the shot you can still catch the flu and a lot of people spend a rough couple of days after the shot. In your case I guess the immunosuppressive meds didn't help. That being said, dialysis patients also have a weakened immune system... We'll see what happens.
Title: Re: Beware the Flu Shot
Post by: charee on November 11, 2006, 03:21:21 PM
I have the flu shot every year and this year i had a reaction the injection site got really hot, red and swollen and the side of my face started to swell i had a really fat lip, went back to the DR and they could put it down to the flu needle not sure if I'm game to have one next winter..
Title: Re: Beware the Flu Shot
Post by: Zach on November 11, 2006, 09:23:19 PM
I received the flu shot at the end of October.  I had no problems.
Title: Re: Beware the Flu Shot
Post by: kitkatz on November 12, 2006, 08:02:13 AM
I have put a request in at my dialysis unit for the flu shot in around two weeks. I want to give myself time to heal from the surgery before I get another thing going!  Besides it hurts to cough and sneeze right now and Lord knows what the flu shot will do to me!
Title: Re: Beware the Flu Shot
Post by: BigSky on November 12, 2006, 09:54:07 AM
Got mine in October also.  No problems.
Title: Re: Beware the Flu Shot
Post by: AlasdairUK on November 12, 2006, 11:58:49 AM
I have never had a flu shot. I do not see the point as you are only protected against the one strain of flu. The virus could mutate and you are not protected. Most people I know normally have some symptoms after the shot.
Title: Re: Beware the Flu Shot
Post by: okarol on November 12, 2006, 10:53:10 PM
It was recommended that Jenna get a flu shot so as to be healthy in the event a transplant became available. When I took her in the
nurse said "What about you Mom?" Since I am so needle phobic I said I didn't think so. (Poor Jenna, going to dialysis 3 days a week
and I can barely look at a needle! I am such a wimp!) The nurse then said that the caretaker especially needs to get a flu shot, and it
would be a good idea for other household members as well. So I did it. Didn't hurt a bit. No side effects. (It was "live" virus, which
the nurse claimed was important, not sure why..?)
Title: Re: Beware the Flu Shot
Post by: Joe Paul on November 13, 2006, 02:01:20 AM
Got my flu shot early last month. Got a couple of side effects, such as stiff joints and a nasty headache. I wasn't the only one with those symptoms, was 3 others at the clinic who had similar effects.
Title: Re: Beware the Flu Shot
Post by: angieskidney on November 14, 2006, 07:51:18 AM
Everyone is different. I don't get side effects but they warn me to keep a watch on my arm they stick it into. Some people get side effects. Do what is best for you. My dialysis unit asks if I want it so I have a choice. One of my friends are totally against ever getting it and has never had the flu without ever getting the shot (but he is healthy) and he went over seas to Korea and still has never had the flu in 40 years.
Title: Re: Beware the Flu Shot
Post by: jbeany on November 15, 2006, 12:40:01 PM
I have never had a flu shot. I do not see the point as you are only protected against the one strain of flu. The virus could mutate and you are not protected. Most people I know normally have some symptoms after the shot.

It's more than just one strain - they try to predict several that are the most likely to be a problem that year.  They don't always get it right - but it will still protect against a couple versions, even if it doesn't cover them all.  I figure it's worth it to avoid at least a few chances of getting sick.

I got mine yesterday - no problems so far.
Title: Re: Beware the Flu Shot
Post by: RichardMEL on November 15, 2006, 04:17:54 PM
I've had flu shots for the past 3 or so years without problem. I consulted my nephrologist beforehand and he was very keen on getting it done for general health and since you don't want to be sick AND on dialysis/suffering from ESRD. So far I have had no problems with the shots. We get the same doctor every year and every year she goes to do my left arm and I have to point at the fistula and say "Other arm, please!" and then she remembers and says "oh it's you. You really need this more than most..."

and of course I go in there not worrying about the relatively tiny needle whereas other staff are all looking a bit green at the prospect... I really would love to take in a 15 giuage dialysis needle sometime, whip it out in the line and say, Paul Hogan style "That's not a needle! Now *THIS* is a needle..... and I get 2!" :D
Title: Re: Beware the Flu Shot
Post by: coravh on November 15, 2006, 04:19:05 PM
I have never had a flu shot. I do not see the point as you are only protected against the one strain of flu. The virus could mutate and you are not protected. Most people I know normally have some symptoms after the shot.

It's more than just one strain - they try to predict several that are the most likely to be a problem that year.  They don't always get it right - but it will still protect against a couple versions, even if it doesn't cover them all.  I figure it's worth it to avoid at least a few chances of getting sick.

I got mine yesterday - no problems so far.

That's right. They include several strains and you are also partially protected from other strains that are similar.

I've gotten my flu shot every year for the last 6 or 7 years. Sometimes my arm gets a bit red or sore but that has been it except this year. Now maybe it's just coincidence, but about 8 hours after I got the shot I started getting cold sores on my lip. I do get one every now and then, but by the next day my upper lip was so swollen that I looked like Bubba in Forest Gump. I ended up getting an oral anti-viral in addition to my topical stuff. The swelling has gone down (I got the shot Mon., and today is Wed.) and the antiviral stuff helped, but I'm going to have a lip full of scabs for a few days. Yuck. I suspect it was the flu shot because I have never had an experience like this before. I'll still get the shot next year though. I had the flu once as a kid and because of my diabetes it landed me in the hospital. Never again!

Cora
Title: Re: Beware the Flu Shot
Post by: lola on March 22, 2007, 09:10:26 AM
My husband got his flu shot Oct 31st got the flu within couple days finally made him go get labs Dec 20th since he was'nt getting better he was starting to have swollen legs and just really tired next morning we get call his creatine was 4.9 was at transplant center within the next hour found out after biopsie that his body went crazy making antibodies to fight off the flu and they turned around and attacked his transplanted kidney he had for 14yrs they were able to clear acute rejection but not chronic his creatin is now down to 3.1 so he's going back on the list March 30th. Transplant Dr's said if he never wants to get a flu shot again he won't give him a hard time. What happened to him  is Very rare just wanted to share our story though. Amy
Title: Re: Beware the Flu Shot
Post by: kitkatz on March 23, 2007, 09:13:53 AM
This year's flu shot had no effect on me whatsoever when I got it two months ago. Ususally I get sick but this one, nothing. Thank goodness.
Title: Re: Beware the Flu Shot
Post by: angela515 on March 27, 2007, 10:30:17 AM
I got my flu shot, still got the flu too... however, I got the flu after my transplant so, no immunse system really. I expected it.
Title: Re: Beware the Flu Shot
Post by: okarol on May 02, 2007, 10:10:36 PM
Diabetes and Flu/Pneumococcal Campaign - National Center for Chronic Disease Prevention and Health

Although people with diabetes are more likely to die with the flu, about 50% do not get an annual flu shot. Pneumococcal disease kills more people in the United States each year than all other vaccine-preventable diseases combined, and people with diabetes are at greater risk.

CDC's Diabetes and Flu/Pneumococcal Campaign, a part of the ongoing public service campaign, Diabetes. One Disease. Many Risks., encourages people with diabetes to get flu and pneumonia shots.

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