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« Reply #25 on: April 13, 2008, 09:18:22 PM »

Hi, I'm still having pronlems coming in 5-6 kilos over my dry wieght. I have come in 10 over before. Those are the days I pay for it with cramps. I try to tell them as soon as I begin to feel the cramps coming. Some days I dont feel the cramp until its time to get off the machine. As soon as I sit up my stomach cramps.

All your suggestions sound good. I've tried drinking a measured amount  all day and end up drinking it all that morning. I think I'm goiung to try the pop ciclce and see if that will help. If I had been a exercise type of person, I wouldn't be in the condition I'm in now.  :rofl;.

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« Reply #26 on: April 13, 2008, 11:29:05 PM »

BigDadii,

Do you have any kidney function left? In other words, do you still pee?
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« Reply #27 on: April 16, 2008, 12:46:14 AM »

I still pee... maybe 100ml a day.. 200ml on a good day (actually the last few days a little more has been coming out.. be still my beating heart lol). I have a eGFR of 6 (bleah). I might try some iced tea on the way home and see if it helps any..... if I could drink something like that that would help that would be awesome :)
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« Reply #28 on: April 16, 2008, 08:50:16 AM »

Make sure you put lemon juice in your iced tea. I think that is the critical ingredient. I even add it to my water bottles now.
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« Reply #29 on: April 16, 2008, 10:53:29 AM »

i have found i drink more if i have juice or soda, therefore unless i eat out i only have water. if i find myself extra thirsty i have ice water. i've tried frozen grapes, but don't like them.  sour candies work well. something high in sugar or salt will make you thirsty.
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« Reply #30 on: April 17, 2008, 07:04:48 AM »

Well, I am SO PROUD of myself.  I went to dialysis yesterday with .8 kg on!!!  :yahoo;  :yahoo;  :yahoo;  :yahoo;  I notice that I drink much less when my day is full of activity.
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« Reply #31 on: April 17, 2008, 07:19:35 AM »

.8                wow     did you drink anything and what did you eat during the day
                              I'd like to challenge myself and follow what you did
                              I know I'll  fail but I'd like to try     


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« Reply #32 on: April 17, 2008, 12:00:48 PM »

Well, I am SO PROUD of myself.  I went to dialysis yesterday with .8 kg on!!!  :yahoo;  :yahoo;  :yahoo;  :yahoo;  I notice that I drink much less when my day is full of activity.

When you have a day such as this do you still have to stay on the machine for 3+ hrs or do they regulate your time depending on your gain?   :thx;
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« Reply #33 on: April 18, 2008, 02:37:12 AM »

One time I went in 0.6kg over which freaked me out because I had about half a bottle of wine the night before!! LOL. That was sweet!! Usually I am about 2kg over...

Definitely when you work hard and have things to distract you the thought to drink is less.. Sometimes I work all afternoon and am so busy I forget to be thirsty and realise in the evening that I haven;t had anything to drink...
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« Reply #34 on: April 18, 2008, 10:31:49 AM »

I have found that dinking alcohol does reduce the fluid buildup.
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« Reply #35 on: April 18, 2008, 01:08:46 PM »

Well, I am SO PROUD of myself.  I went to dialysis yesterday with .8 kg on!!!  :yahoo;  :yahoo;  :yahoo;  :yahoo;  I notice that I drink much less when my day is full of activity.

When you have a day such as this do you still have to stay on the machine for 3+ hrs or do they regulate your time depending on your gain?   :thx;

The standard in-clinic machines run the same length of time regardless of how much or little fluid you have on.  The time is your prescription.  (If you have a huge gain, they will make you run extra sessions to get it off, though.  Most clinics have a set maximum amount they will take off in one session.  My clinic won't take off more than 6 liters a session.)

NxStage calculates their runs differently - you have to process a certain amount of dialysate fluid - my  prescription is 20 L.  The less fluid you have on, the shorter the run time.  If I gain less than .6, then my run is about 2 hours, 10 minutes.  Over 2 - it's about 2 hrs, 30 minutes.  It varies depending on my fluid gain.
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« Reply #36 on: April 18, 2008, 05:57:21 PM »

I have found that dinking alcohol does reduce the fluid buildup.

oooh a reason to drink MORE wine!!!! :)

(just kidding!)
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« Reply #37 on: April 18, 2008, 06:58:51 PM »

If it reduces your fluid buildup, why not? Dialysis feels good when you don't have any fluid to pull off.
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« Reply #38 on: April 19, 2008, 03:19:32 PM »

If it reduces your fluid buildup, why not? Dialysis feels good when you don't have any fluid to pull off.


really, what part of the body does it feel good in, certainly not the arm
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« Reply #39 on: April 19, 2008, 03:24:21 PM »

:oops;  I forgot to add that someone told me to get a spray bottle and keep in by my bed at night and when I wake up with dry mouth, spray 
           my mouth....trying it tonight..... I am placing little ice pieces from Sonic and letting it melt....got a little spray bottle

          I might spray my cat... :rofl;   or my husband--- he only sleeps in socks :urcrazy;
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« Reply #40 on: April 19, 2008, 08:32:16 PM »

Sorry, but when you don't have excess fluid to pull off, you feel much better after dialysis. No cramps, no nausea, no low bp. It works for me.
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« Reply #41 on: May 14, 2008, 11:25:41 AM »

I just bought this gum called Quench from Dick's Sporting Goods. Baseball season and it helps keep your mind on the game and not how hot and thirsty you are.
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« Reply #42 on: May 14, 2008, 03:47:36 PM »

I have found that 1 bottled water (.5L, .9 FL oz) adds about a half a kilo of weight.
So i try to limit myself to 6 waters bottle a day. I do fine with 2-3 though.

In a hot place you should sweat out about 2 cups a day (approx .2L) more if your active.
Maybe if you look at the numbers and do some math you can control your thirst level
a bit more?

But Im aware sometimes nothing helps when your just hot and thirsty.
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« Reply #43 on: May 16, 2008, 01:12:17 AM »

I have found that 1 bottled water (.5L, .9 FL oz) adds about a half a kilo of weight.
So i try to limit myself to 6 waters bottle a day. I do fine with 2-3 though.

Hold on am I reading this right? You drink 3L (6x500ml) of water a day and still are OK with the fluids in terms of dialysis? wow!!

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« Reply #44 on: May 16, 2008, 02:56:30 AM »

I drink quite a bit myself but I still have good urine output. I guess as long as I don't have any fluid gain, I won't worry about it.
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« Reply #45 on: May 16, 2008, 10:44:05 AM »

sorry, i forgot to mention im on the NxStage 6 short treatments a week.

but while i was in center i could have 3x500ml a day and be fine.
no urine output either.

Maye cuz i try to stay active and burn it off?????
I walk and do chores as much as i can.
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« Reply #46 on: May 16, 2008, 10:51:24 AM »


Maye cuz i try to stay active and burn it off?????
I walk and do chores as much as i can.


A good workout you can lose almost a litre of fluid.
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« Reply #47 on: May 16, 2008, 02:33:43 PM »

Don't know if this helps but my son fixes himself a snowcone. Mainly fine ice. Seems to keep him from going over 48 ounces.
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« Reply #48 on: May 21, 2008, 01:51:41 PM »

:yahoo; :2thumbsup; :rofl; :clap; :beer1; :thx; :bandance;

Really?! Is it alright to drink alcohol while on Dialysis? If alcohol leaves you with less fluid, I'm willing to try it. Which does better...beer or wine.

Flip...I still pee but its not a lot.

I've tried popcycles and they seem to help but sometime I still lose control. Don't like exercise...I agree activity and or sleep helps.
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« Reply #49 on: May 21, 2008, 04:14:51 PM »

I still drink alcohol with no problems and no objections from the staff. It does reduce fluid gain because it tends to dehydrate. I'm not diabetic nor do I take any meds that might interact. Beer is fairly high in potassium. I usually stick with red wine or vodka and cranberry juice. Most people think I'm crazy (maybe I am) but it works for me.
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