considering giving up dialysis treatment

[Padster]

OK Epoman, some pointers for you.

I won't apologise to you because I found your comments offensive and confrontational. I accept that this might be your 'style' of communicating with people, but really, it doesn't work in the real world. Its kind of like those people who state: "I say what I want and to hell with what anyone thinks. If they can't take the truth, then tough"

"So not only are you a coward but you're selfish"

Ooh, how awful. The poor guy mustn't think about himself must he? No, he must be the 'brave little soldier' and put his feelings on hold lest they upset someone. Yeah, bottle it up. After all, only HE is going through all this stuff.

"IF you ALREADY have a child then you really are a selfish person and you REALLY suck HARD, so please stop dialysis NOW!   LOSER"

Not content with calling the guy selfish and accusing him of cowardice, you now add insult to injury by calling him a loser. Ooh, big tough Epoman. We must all be wimps compared to you. Is it so bad not to want to go through all this crap? After all, there are people out there hurting other people and causing pain and distress yet they are in perfect health (and don't bring up that God-plan crap again please...let it die)

"If not, STOP feeling sorry for yourself and get your shit in order"

Nice. And you tell ME I have a filthy mouth....

No Epo, I wil NOT apologise to you personally. And you can ban me if it gives you pleasure.

Best wishes,
Padster

[Epoman]

OK Epoman, some pointers for you.

I won't apologise to you because I found your comments offensive and confrontational. I accept that this might be your 'style' of communicating with people, but really, it doesn't work in the real world. Its kind of like those people who state: "I say what I want and to hell with what anyone thinks. If they can't take the truth, then tough"

"So not only are you a coward but you're selfish"

Ooh, how awful. The poor guy mustn't think about himself must he? No, he must be the 'brave little soldier' and put his feelings on hold lest they upset someone. Yeah, bottle it up. After all, only HE is going through all this stuff.

"IF you ALREADY have a child then you really are a selfish person and you REALLY suck HARD, so please stop dialysis NOW!   LOSER"

Not content with calling the guy selfish and accusing him of cowardice, you now add insult to injury by calling him a loser. Ooh, big tough Epoman. We must all be wimps compared to you. Is it so bad not to want to go through all this crap? After all, there are people out there hurting other people and causing pain and distress yet they are in perfect health (and don't bring up that God-plan crap again please...let it die)

"If not, STOP feeling sorry for yourself and get your shit in order"

Nice. And you tell ME I have a filthy mouth....

No Epo, I wil NOT apologise to you personally. And you can ban me if it gives you pleasure.

Best wishes,
Padster

You just don't get it, EVEN after his wife comes in this thread and defends my actions. It is not my "Style" but tough love has been proven to work.

Ooh, how awful. The poor guy mustn't think about himself must he? No, he must be the 'brave little soldier' and put his feelings on hold lest they upset someone. Yeah, bottle it up. After all, only HE is going through all this stuff.

That's right he is newly married and when you get married you become one emotionally with that person, there is a bond. So NO he can't just think of himself and be selfish his actions NOW affect his wife plus others.

Not content with calling the guy selfish and accusing him of cowardice, you now add insult to injury by calling him a loser. Ooh, big tough Epoman. We must all be wimps compared to you. Is it so bad not to want to go through all this crap? After all, there are people out there hurting other people and causing pain and distress yet they are in perfect health (and don't bring up that God-plan crap again please...let it die)

That's right I would have said anything to make him think twice. The rest of your comments are just ridiculous.

Nice. And you tell ME I have a filthy mouth....

I said you had a filthy mouth? I believe those are your words.

No Epo, I wil NOT apologise to you personally. And you can ban me if it gives you pleasure.

My pleasure, You are BANNED not because of your comments but because of your lack of respect to a fellow member. Your own words "No Epo, I wil NOT apologise to you personally" and you know the rules and you were given a chance.

(Email of this reply sent to Padster at his email address since you will not be able to view it, he is BANNED)

- Epoman
Owner/Admin

[Rerun]

Banned!!  I agree.  It is ridiculous to tell one person to not say what is on his mind when that person is doing the same thing.  He must be a democrat!

[kevno]

I agree, Padster did overstep the mark. Plus deserved to be banned. What I can not understand why he did it on a old thread that had already been sorted out Crazy!

Plus I always thought you were a democrat Rerun

[Rerun]

Most people think I'm a liberal democrat.  All my friends seem to be liberal democrats.  HELP!  What am I doing wrong!

I'm as consertive as they come.  I listen to Rush Limbough!  The man cracks me up and is right most of the time. 

[Hawkeye]

I listen to Rush Limbough!

I'm sorry. LOL

[Rerun]

Well, doesn't that make me a "Conservative" Republican?  GEEZ!  How much more can I say!   

[Hawkeye]

Well, doesn't that make me a "Conservative" Republican?  GEEZ!  How much more can I say!   

Nope that says it all.

[kevno]

I'm keeping quiet

[Sara]

I'm keeping quiet

Me too. Wow. 

[Panda_9]

Id rather we talk about what we are here for, not fight like school kids

[Rerun]

Well, doesn't that make me a "Conservative" Republican?  GEEZ!  How much more can I say!   

Nope that says it all.

New Topic in "Off Topic"   

[LT514]

You will die unless you get a transplant. If you deliberately know this and go off dialysis, you are, in essence, committing suicide. Dialysis is not fun. However, it is not the end of the world. One thing you have to remember -- unlike with liver, heart, or lung failure - kidney failure can be treated. You (and everyone who has this) will always have Chronic Kidney Disease. Transplant and Dialysis are only treatments. Do not do this to yourself. Life is too good to quit - even when 12-20 hours per weeks are used. Epoman was right with his response.

[thom]

i've thought about stopping dialysis millions of times but then i do some paintings/drawings which helps get my emotions out alot better..the more people who see it the less it's mine.

[Epoman]

i've thought about stopping dialysis millions of times but then i do some paintings/drawings which helps get my emotions out alot better..the more people who see it the less it's mine.

NICE! Do you have a digital camera? Maybe you could post some pictures of your paintings in Off-Topic and SHOW THE WORLD! 

[Budman]

I'm with epoman on this one as well. You know my aunt was on CAPD and she stopped it, just like you want to do, she left behind a husband and two kids, not to mention her 3 grandchildren, you don't know who you will hurt until you do but by then its to late because you can't come back from the dead! If you only had yourself I would say do whatever you feel like doing, but epoman is right, your not living for just you anymore, I didn't like it when I failed, shit I was only 18. But ever since I have a lovely wife and a brand new baby girl, sure your life is different and may even suck sometimes, but that doesn't mean it's over!

[angieskidney]

I'm with epoman on this one as well. You know my aunt was on CAPD and she stopped it, just like you want to do, she left behind a husband and two kids, not to mention her 3 grandchildren, you don't know who you will hurt until you do but by then its to late because you can't come back from the dead! If you only had yourself I would say do whatever you feel like doing, but epoman is right, your not living for just you anymore, I didn't like it when I failed, shit I was only 18. But ever since I have a lovely wife and a brand new baby girl, sure your life is different and may even suck sometimes, but that doesn't mean it's over!

Very well said Budman!! 

[Rerun]

That is why I haven't remarried.  I don't want to hurt anyone and really don't want to be a burdon on anyone. 

I also don't want to become one giant fistula.  People will go to all lengths to stay alive on dialysis.  Fistulas coming out their groin or back.  I won't do that.   

[kitkatz]

Me neither, Rerun.  The doc will have to talk long and hard to put anything anywhere else but in an  arm.  What are they thinking? How can you live a comfortable life with fistulas or grafts everywhere.  Shheez!

[sandman]

That is why I haven't remarried.  I don't want to hurt anyone and really don't want to be a burdon on anyone. 

I also don't want to become one giant fistula.  People will go to all lengths to stay alive on dialysis.  Fistulas coming out their groin or back.  I won't do that.   

That pretty sad rerun but I can't find any real fault in your logic.  What I can't help but wonder is, just how lonely you must feel?

[Rerun]

I'd rather be a little lonely than a LOT rejected.

I do fine.  I have lots of friends and family, but not a husband or kids to tell me what to do.  My brothers, sisters, nieces, nephews know better than to try, and Mom and Dad are dead.   

[Panda_9]

I couldnt cope without my other half.

[Epoman]

I couldnt cope without my other half.

QFT

(Quoted For Truth)

Seriously, I was very lucky to get married before I was struck with this disease. My wife is the most supportive person in the world.

[Panda_9]

I mert my other half after I found out my kidney was rejecting. I told him all about it before we even got together. I doubt he knew how much was going to be involved but he has stuck by me and I know he loves me no matter what. He was only 21 when I met him, and I was surprised it didnt scare him off, being so young. He is just as sick of it all as I am. I just want to be able to work so we can buy a house and have kids. It does put strain on your relationship though, but I love him to bits and dont regret getting involved with someone at all.

[MelissaJean]

Being newly single with kidney failure is kind of daunting sometimes.  I usually enjoy being single, but lately I have wanted some kind of love relationship.  My only family is my mom who has terminal cancer, and right now my friends are so supportive, but they are also really busy with their lives, and they aren't even married yet with families. 

I guess I don't worry about being a burden on someone because I know the extents I would go to for someone I love. 

UUUgghh...I don't know how I would be able to work a full time job and not have someone living with me to help out on those hard days.

I would normally say that I would go to any extent to live, but lately I am not so sure. I could see myself one day, if I became a burden, or extremely sick, or unable to financially survive... I might pull the plug.