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« on: October 09, 2007, 08:19:08 PM »

 :rant; :rant; :rant; OK, a week ago my access clotted, and the next day it was successfully de-clotted. It has been working very well up to this point. But now, only a week later, the same symptoms are coming back! The "whistling" bruit. The high pressures on the machine. The excessive bleeding on cannulation and needle pulling. It started yesterday, and was worse today. I'm now feeling like I'M the one responsible for this. It doesn't seem normal for a graft to have to have two fistulagrams and a de-clot in such a short time. I've only been using this f***ing thing since June, and I'm getting to the point where I WANT MY F***ING CATHETER BACK! I honestly don't know how much longer I can deal with this shit before I march my happy ass into the kidney centre and don't leave until I have a permacath sticking out of my chest again. I just feel like I must be doing something wrong with cannulation or needle pulling. I haven't talked to my nurse yet, because I just thought the bleeding and the high pressures were just an isolated incident, until my treatment today, but I'm going to call her first thing tomorrow. I'm sure I will have to have ANOTHER F***ING FISTULAGRAM. If I'm getting stenosis in the same place, and it's NOT me doing something wrong that's causing it, I wonder if they can put a stent in to hold it open instead of just ballooning it open only to have it narrow again in a week. I don't know whether to cry, cuss, scream, or all three, but I do know I'm getting VERY SICK OF THIS! I've been on my home dialysis for over four months now, and I've felt better than I've felt in a long time. I feel now this damn stupid graft of mine is trying to take over where in-centre dialysis left off. I DO NOT want that to happen. Most of you know how bad I was before I left the centre. OK, I've blown off enough steam for one evening.

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« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2007, 08:29:01 PM »

Aww, I wish I could help, I just hope things work for  you hun..  :grouphug;
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« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2007, 08:54:12 PM »

Man Adam, I am sorry you are going through this!  I hope you get everything worked out   :grouphug;  dangit...the crap we all go through is just complete BS!!!
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« Reply #3 on: October 09, 2007, 08:56:41 PM »

Oh Adam! I'm so sorry that it is happening again.  :grouphug; I truly hope that this gets better.  :cuddle;  :cuddle;
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« Reply #4 on: October 09, 2007, 08:57:09 PM »

 :grouphug; :yahoo; :grouphug;<------  The guy in the middle is yelling for you!

I hope things go better. Keep us informed.
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« Reply #5 on: October 09, 2007, 09:11:42 PM »

You have every right to be upset Adam, and i am glad you came to vent, thats the best thing to do, let it all out, hopefully they will get you your catheter and get you up and running again, sorry for all the problems you are having,  Take care my friend...  :cuddle;
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« Reply #6 on: October 09, 2007, 09:59:12 PM »

Probably not anything you are doing.

If you have a graft its more likely just because its a graft instead of a fistula.  Grafts are more likely to clot or get infected. They do not to last as long, usually only a few year . Grafts tend to need revisions in the hospital one or more times a year to remove clots or fix narrow places. 


In any case hope you get it taken care of.
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« Reply #7 on: October 09, 2007, 10:15:14 PM »

Wishing you better days ahead. I hope your graft problems get resolved. Take care.
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« Reply #8 on: October 10, 2007, 12:16:47 AM »

Sorry about this Adam, I don't blame you for being frustrated - I don't understand why it has to be so hard!  :banghead;
Take care  :cuddle;
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« Reply #9 on: October 10, 2007, 12:30:06 AM »

Hope it all clears up ASAP otherwise  :boxing;

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« Reply #10 on: October 10, 2007, 12:50:13 AM »

Sorry to hear you are having more troubles. Hope they get you fixed up and soon!!
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« Reply #11 on: October 10, 2007, 03:18:57 AM »

Wow!  This has been really rough for you.  I too have a graft and for 2 years it has been going well.  All of a sudden, the nurses are getting problems putting in my needle in my arterial. It goes in well, pumping well and as they push it in fully, it stops.   Last week I ended up with 3 different bandaids (sureseal) on my aterial on Mon.  Then on Wednesday, it took 2.  Thankfully, on Friday it only took 1.
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« Reply #12 on: October 10, 2007, 05:01:10 AM »

Adam, I'm really sorry you're having these problems. I hope they can fix it for you, or at least give you a catheter until they figure out a permanent fix.  :grouphug;  :grouphug;
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« Reply #13 on: October 10, 2007, 05:04:45 AM »

Adam,

So very sorry to read of your access problems.  I can truly feel your frustration.  My husband has them, also.  Will be thinking and
praying for you from New Jersey that it will all get worked out real soon

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« Reply #14 on: October 10, 2007, 06:13:21 AM »

oh, Adam. Dang it. all. I so hope it comes out well, I understand your frustration all too well!!!
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« Reply #15 on: October 10, 2007, 07:55:06 AM »

Damn Adam, sorry to hear you have to go through all that crap. I hope all turns out okay with your Graft. I will be thinking of you.  :cuddle;

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« Reply #16 on: October 10, 2007, 08:21:06 AM »

Thanks for all the support. I just got off the phone with my nurse, and she suggested that I go ahead and dialyze today, even though Wednesday is normally my day off, and see how it goes. If everything with the treatment is fine, than there is the possibility that this was just an isolated incident. If I have problems again, then we will know I need to have it looked at AGAIN. Today I've also had some minor circulation problems in my access arm, and I haven't had anything like that for a long time. I've been wondering if maybe I'm inadvertently causing these problems by rolling over on the access in my sleep. I woke up at one point last night, and the whole arm was numb, and it felt like I had rolled over right onto the access. I'm going to try sleeping only on my right side and hopefully I won't risk hurting the graft in my sleep. I'll keep you all updated.

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-Started dialysis four days later in hospital (Baxter 1550-I think, then Gambro Phoenix)
-Started in-centre dialysis Feb 6th 2007 (Fres. 2008H)
-Started home hemo June 5th 2007 (NxStage/Pureflow)
-PD catheter placed June 6th 2008 (Bye bye NxStage, at least for now)
-Started CAPD July 4th, 2008
-PD catheter removed Dec 2, 2008-PD just wouldn't work, so I'm back on NxStage
-Kidney function improved enough to go off dialysis, Feb. 2011!!!!!
-Back on dialysis (still NxStage) July 2011 :(
-In-centre self-care dialysis March 2012 (Fresenius 2008K)
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« Reply #17 on: October 10, 2007, 08:32:48 AM »

Maybe you can try nocturnal dialysis they run the blood flow at 250, and its not as hard on your fistula...
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« Reply #18 on: October 10, 2007, 10:14:57 AM »

I know sleeping on your arm can DEFINETLY cause problems, (found out the hard way) :P  It seemed like i couldnt even bend my arm without it clotting, i hope things work out for you soon Adam, but whatever happens, dont let it get you down ok,  :2thumbsup;  Love ya friend  :cuddle;
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« Reply #19 on: October 10, 2007, 04:33:47 PM »

I find it utterly incomprehensible that, despite the overwhelming and obvious advantages of a permcath as a dialysis access, both nephrologists and most patients persist in the belief that it is an inferior method.  I have several times listed its advantages, to which I can now add the fact that you don't have to worry about your sleeping position if you have a permcath.  I suspect that much of the undervaluing of permcaths has to do with the fact that people have not taken note of how much better the more modern versions are than the older ones.  I always had a pump speed of 450 with mine, no problems with recirculation, no clotting, no pain, and only three changes (through the same tunnel over a guide wire -- a very simple procedure) of catheter over more than 8 years of dialysis.
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« Reply #20 on: October 10, 2007, 05:20:40 PM »

AV fistulas are by far the more healthy form of vascular access for people on hemodialysis. Eight years of catheter use has most likely caused the artery you used to narrow at the site. Perceived convenience advantages do not outweigh clinical disadvantages.
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« Reply #21 on: October 10, 2007, 08:24:36 PM »

Oh, Adam, I'm so sorry.  Good rant though.   ;D

Have they done vein mapping to see if there is another vein available which can be used for a natural A/V fistula?  If you haven't had vein mapping done in the past several months I'd request it be done ASAP.  It sure would be nice to have a healing natural A/V fistula while you use a cath.

As a last resort maybe try the other arm?  Try to get at least two opinions if you don't like the first one.  You have improved so much with the NxStage, do what you have to be able to stay home.  You will be in my prayers.
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« Reply #22 on: October 10, 2007, 08:33:55 PM »

Adam one thing to consider is: are you getting too dry? Since you just made the switch to more frequent it would be understandable if you had gained actual weight from eating better. Low blood pressures could cause access complications - see beachy's thread on HDC. What have your BPs been running?
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« Reply #23 on: October 10, 2007, 09:00:21 PM »

Adam one thing to consider is: are you getting too dry? Since you just made the switch to more frequent it would be understandable if you had gained actual weight from eating better. Low blood pressures could cause access complications - see beachy's thread on HDC. What have your BPs been running?
Good point, Bill. When I did my treatment today, I was having even more problems with the access (higher pressures, etc.), particularly toward the end of the tx. I ended up getting a false reading on my scale, which led to me setting the UF a bit too high, and when I got off, my BP was like 110/75, which is pretty low for me. For a while, I actually lost the thrill, and I thought, "oh no, here we go again", but it came back shortly after I took the needles out. I'm also wondering if my graft may be losing performance because of a high blood flow rate. I know a high BFR can be hard on some accesses, and my BFR is 450. I'm supposed to be starting nocturnal after I switch doctors, but that is being delayed right now. I really wonder if I would have so many access problems if I was doing longer, gentler dialysis with a low BFR and UFR. I'm going to be going to the kidney institute AGAIN tomorrow or Friday (I don't have tx tomorrow), and we'll see what happens. Sheesh, they're going to end up naming the kidney institute after me if this keeps up  :lol; I'll keep everyone posted as "Adam's Access Adventures" continue.

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-Started dialysis four days later in hospital (Baxter 1550-I think, then Gambro Phoenix)
-Started in-centre dialysis Feb 6th 2007 (Fres. 2008H)
-Started home hemo June 5th 2007 (NxStage/Pureflow)
-PD catheter placed June 6th 2008 (Bye bye NxStage, at least for now)
-Started CAPD July 4th, 2008
-PD catheter removed Dec 2, 2008-PD just wouldn't work, so I'm back on NxStage
-Kidney function improved enough to go off dialysis, Feb. 2011!!!!!
-Back on dialysis (still NxStage) July 2011 :(
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« Reply #24 on: October 10, 2007, 09:37:33 PM »

One way to see how you are in relation to dry weight is to have a friend observe your neck veins. When you lie down your neck veins should be visible, and then they should go away when you sit/stand up. If they are visible all the time you may be too heavy/ if they are never visible you may be to dry. One thing to consider is that carrying half a kilo extra should not a be a problem since you are dialyzing daily. I tend to error on the side of carrying extra fluid as opposed to getting too dry.
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