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« on: February 02, 2015, 01:09:46 AM »

Found this "sports" drink on Luckyvitamin.com and Amazon called Acli-Mate Mountain Sport Drink.

It comes in a 13.8 oz tub or a box of individual powder packets of 30. Initially developed for high-altitude climbers, bikers etc. I've just been using it to rehydrate right after I finish my D-treatment to get all the minerals and stuff back.

The only caution I see on the list of ingredients is the magnesium, but with the amount of supplementation D-patients take, it doesn't seem excessive and may help with drain pains and cramps. No phosphorous flags, which is great.

The other vitamins, minerals and electrolytes seem to be fine. I know I am always low in the B vitamins. Also, it has sodium bicarbonate, which is one of the best things D-patients could be taking on a daily basis. The extracts and CoQ10 additions are awesome as well.

Gluten free, soy free, dairy free, very low in sugar, natural sweeteners only. It's convenient. I've been keeping a few packs in my bag when Im on the go and just whip up a cold, iced glass of it in the morning. The grape flavor is pretty good, have yet to try others but all the reviews seem highly positive. It tastes a bit like Gatorade without the artificial bite and more of tang from the sodium bicarb.



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« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2015, 07:55:15 AM »

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« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2015, 05:14:42 PM »

Looks like a good product.  However, it's wise to run it by your nephrologist/dietitian just to be safe, especially with the high calcium and magnesium content.

For sure, noahvale. I've never been able to get a direct answer from nephrologist or nutritionists as to what an acceptable DV% of magnesium intake for a PD patient is. Luckily, magnesium isn't nearly as bio-available as phosphorus and other minerals and even most normal people are very deficient unless they're supplementing, so I am hoping there is a little wiggle room. The calcium could definitely pose an issue if a D-patient's numbers already run a little high. I'm going to run this by my nutritionist next week and she if she has any insight, baselines etc. It would be awesome if this was okayed because in the short amount of time I've been drinking half a packet in the morning after treatment, I feel less of a husk. It takes me less time to recover from treatment and I've found myself actually staying awake instead of disconnecting and climbing back into bed.
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« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2015, 05:39:45 PM »

If I were going to add 8-10 ozs of fluid to my daily intake, I'd like to have the supplement include some protein.
And most folks on PD need more protein than those on hemodialysis.
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« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2015, 06:57:51 PM »

I have a fairly difficult time managing my anemia. We can never seem to get my EPO dosage balanced with my numbers. Nurse is constantly adjusting the dosage...lower or higher according to the monthly labs. So one month it may be spiking at 10 so dosage is significantly dropped, then it may lower to 7 so they increase significantly and the cycle starts over. I seem to actually feel worse when it jumps up too fast. I was actually doing okay energy wise until December. I got hit with the nasty illness going around, it turned into a more pneumonia like thing...turns out a  bunch of people in our area were diagnosed with whooping cough (i.e. Pertussis) and it lingered..and lingered..and wore me down until mid Jan. I was prescribed heavy doses of antibiotics which I also had to recover from and I don't think I have fully. My mom, who is my caregiver, also had this and is much healthier than I am has not 100% recovered either.

Thanks for the information. I'll give it a look when I get the chance to sit down at my computer.
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« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2015, 08:22:39 PM »

If I were going to add 8-10 ozs of fluid to my daily intake, I'd like to have the supplement include some protein.
And most folks on PD need more protein than those on hemodialysis.

Didn't see your post earlier, Zach. But yes, that's true. Was thinking about that point last night. I made mine in a 12 oz bottle the night before because I knew I would be out today and was concerned about it taking up too much of my other fluid intake. So I sipped on a little in the morning and it was just..a little more refreshing and gave me a bit more umph than trying to drink a heavy protein shake first thing. I don't seem to be ready for the protein til the afternoons. Just took it with me in the car and sipped here and there throughout the day then put the rest back in the fridge when I got home so the other half was left for me the next day and I haven't outdone myself on fluids. I would rather sip on something like that if I was having a craving, rather than something with no nutrition or loaded with sugar (i.e. my weakness: iced tea). Guess it all rides on those pesky labs.

An after thought...I wonder how much of a pain in the butt it would be to create a more renal friendly, organic "vitamin" water that had some protein in it, didn't taste like terrible soaked in awful, was cost effective and had a decent refrigerated shelf life.
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