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« on: September 14, 2012, 06:10:50 AM »

I have low BP issues irrespective of the fluid removal, ie low BP even before dialysis with 3.5kg fluid gain

I have trouble in removing the fluid during dialysis bec of low BP 95/65  they would keep initial UF goal as 1000ml,
then after 2 hours UF goal would be raised to 3000ml if the BP improves.

the dialysis technician suggested increasing the conductivity using sodium modelling or profile, this way the sodium will not be removed, just the fluid alone.

they kept the UF goal as 1000ml with sodium modelling, then raised the UF goal later which nullifies the sodium
modelling.

How to remove the fluid without removing the sodium and without causing low BP?
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« Reply #1 on: September 14, 2012, 07:55:09 AM »

Control your fluid intake.  Keep it below 48 ounces a day.  Then they shouldn't have to take off so much?  Just a suggestion.  Good luck with that.
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« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2012, 03:51:46 PM »

Maybe you have actually gained weight? I put my dry weight up with 1 kilo last week cos my BP dropped through the floor as well, and I'll increase it with an other half, cos its still low.

good luck Cas
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« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2012, 08:42:41 PM »

To me the weight vs. BP has always been a mystery, haha  :rofl;
I'v been dealing with the ups & downs of it for years.

It could be your BP meds, fluid gain, dry weight gain, etc.
Good Luck!
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« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2012, 07:36:08 AM »

Mommychick,  You and me, both.  Some days my fluid gain is under two, sometimes it's five.  Sometimes I dread dialysis because I think I'm heavy and I'm light.  Sometimes I think I'm light and I'm heavy.  I'm going to CAPD soon so I can drink a tall glass of iced tea without worrying about fluid.  I hate not being able to have a drink, and I don't mean alcohol.
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« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2012, 09:33:29 AM »

thanks all for the reply.  I have low BP even when I have fluid gain and I don't take any BP medicines.
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« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2012, 10:14:41 AM »

I know that someone here takes a pill for that but unfortunatly, i dont know what it is.  I should have remembered it because hubby is bording that situation as well.  I know that hubs was taken off bp meds, but as you dont take them, that wouldnt be your answer, but i know there is something to raise it as well.  Hope they chime in here so as to give you some more info. 
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« Reply #7 on: September 21, 2012, 10:30:02 AM »

Mommychick,  You and me, both.  Some days my fluid gain is under two, sometimes it's five.  Sometimes I dread dialysis because I think I'm heavy and I'm light.  Sometimes I think I'm light and I'm heavy.  I'm going to CAPD soon so I can drink a tall glass of iced tea without worrying about fluid.  I hate not being able to have a drink, and I don't mean alcohol.
Totally know how you feel!
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~ Hello All, My names Marna ~

- 1995 - 12 yrs old found out my kidneys were both failing
- 1996 - Dec. 3 I received my 1st kidney transplant at age 13, after 7/mths on the waiting list
- 2005 - In Aug. transplant failed after 9.5 years, had to have a nephrectomy due to being very ill & massive hypertension
           - End of Aug. 1st time on dialysis
- 2006 - Had my fistula placed & ready to go
- 2010 - My little Miracle was born 6/mths into the pregnancy, weighing 2.4 lbs & 13.25 in long
          - Found out my PRA is 100% & I have antibodies that CAN'T be decreased
- 2013 - Oct. 2nd  *** I finally received my kidney!!! ***
          - Dec. 3rd I had 3.5 parathyroids removed, due to them interfering w/my new kidney.
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« Reply #8 on: September 21, 2012, 11:31:38 PM »

boswife,

the pill is Midodrine which raises BP, but my neph asked me take full salt diet which does not help much

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« Reply #9 on: September 22, 2012, 01:33:13 PM »

I would still say to raise your dry weight.

love Cas
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1983 high proteinloss in urine, chemo, stroke,coma, dialysis
1984 double nephrectomy
1985 transplant from dad
1998 lost dads kidney, start PD
2003 peritineum burst, back to hemo
2012 start Nxstage home hemo
2020 start Gambro AK96

       still on waitinglist, still ok I think
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« Reply #10 on: September 23, 2012, 05:13:28 AM »

Hubby has low BP due to Sarcoid. Comes and goes. He takes 10 mg Mitodrene before treatment. This can be repeated 2-3 more times as it is short acting. One seems to last long enough for him to get the fluid off without crashing and makes it easier to cannulate him.
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« Reply #11 on: September 23, 2012, 05:52:11 AM »

Whamo, not sure if you have residual renal function or not?  CAPD does not give you freedom to drink so much if you have no residual renal function.
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« Reply #12 on: October 04, 2012, 02:40:17 PM »

Whamo, not sure if you have residual renal function or not?  CAPD does not give you freedom to drink so much if you have no residual renal function.

That's right.. if you have residual function, then you can drink a little bit more, but if you don't, it doesn't matter what type of dialysis you ar I had no residual fuce on, you'll have to limit fluid.  I had no residual function while on PD, and I didn't realize until after I was on HD for a while how much extra fluid I was carrying around because it wasn't coming off
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