can I call this a safe meal?

[texasstyle]

Grilled chicken breast with no skin, BROWN rice with some steamed broccoli, and as a grilling side/sauce FRESH long strips of griled pineapple and with a squeezed nectarine juice. I believe the oranges are a no no but nectarines are ok right? Thanks.

[Joe]

If i recall correctly, Brown rice is also a no-no. you can have white, but not brown.

[texasstyle]

Hmmm,, thanks for that one. i do have white also. I thought brown was better than white for some reason. i am trying to incorporate some meals that are kidney friendly AND low/cal and healthly for my daugter who is trying to lose weight/eat healthier. Myself, I could eat what ever but I'm starting to get into the healthy side of it too.  I'm not getting any younger lol.

[billybags]

Tex, that sounds really nice, making me feel hungry .  As I keep saying a bit of what you fancy will not hurt. Enjoy.

[MooseMom]

I agree...brown rice is too high in phosphorus compared to white rice.  I eat basmati rice...maybe you could try that?  I buy ten pound bags of it at a local Indian grocer, but I can also find it at my local supermarket, but it is much pricier there.  There are different kinds of white rice, so have a look around and see what you can find.

Nectarines are very high in K, unfortunately.  They are my favourite fruit, so during the summer, once a week I will buy one and have a slice or two over the course of several days.

[iketchum]

Try freshly grilled chicken sliced into strips with onions and bell peppers in a fajita wrap. I add just a bit of sour cream and grated mex blend cheese.

[lmunchkin]

Try freshly grilled chicken sliced into strips with onions and bell peppers in a fajita wrap. I add just a bit of sour cream and grated mex blend cheese.

That sounds real good!  Gonna try this.

TS, I think it would be a fine meal for all of you, just make sure not to overdo things.  Sounds like a meal full of LOVE!!! Whether ESRD or not.

lmunchkin
 

[sullidog]

I know brown rice is bad, but my former dietition from my other center said any rice is ok, must be her ignorence

[RichardMEL]

mmmm sounds good. where's my invite to dinner?

I think the combinations could be a bit difficult - eg pineapple strips (high K) with nectarine based stuff (high K) and the other sauce (salt?) could be problematic in larger amounts. As a single meal it sounds fine and very healthy!!!

I think though you have to take this meal in context with the rest of the day's diet for Mike. I mean on its own that meal is probably fine (don't forget binders) but let's say he also eats chocolate, or potato chips to snack, and drinks coke etc... the combinations could be problamtic.

Also consider there's a history of high K for Mike. I would definitely avoid as much as possible the higher K foods so personally I would pull the pineapple and nectarine factors...

but I'm no dietician

[boswife]

AND...... if your speaking for yourself... Brown *is* better, so make both  so you can get your best nutrition too 

[MooseMom]

Wait a minute...according to my AAKP booklet, fresh pineapple is much lower in K than nectarines.  A strip of grilled fresh pineapple should be OK.  That sounds really good!  I have 4 oz of pineapple juice mixed with seltzer water in the morning with my cereal.

[RichardMEL]

Happy to stand corrected but I was always under the impression that pineapple was one of the bad bad no go items cuz of high K.... I gave up hawaiian pizza for 5 years!!!! 

[MooseMom]

OK, here I am with my nifty neato AAKP Nutrition Counter.  Now, according to this, one medium orange (a real Bozo no no) has 237 mg K, and one cup of fresh (not canned) pineapple has 175.  Compare that with one cup of fresh blueberries which has 129 and is deemed one of the "safer" food items.  Although, strawberries are considered safe, according to the K list my dietician gave me, but they have 239 mg K per one cup.  Color me confused.

My AAKP thingy doesn't have values for nectarines, but it is on my dietician's list, along with oranges and bananas, as one of the Bozo no no fruits.

I do find that some of these lists are contradictory.  If in doubt, eat a very small portion.   

[Riverwhispering]

You can also find most everything on NutritionData.com

[Gerald Lively]

TIC (tongue in cheek):

Dialysis is a gift.  All of the food you had to eat to be healthy is a no-no now.  All of the food you had to ban from your diet is now the mainstay of your diet.  Eat that starchy white stuff, toss that pasta in the air and celebrate, you can eat it all (watch out for tomato based sauces), eat what you may  - but take your binder pill.

Soak those yams overnight and do the same for potatoes, but watch the salt.  Go ahead and have those fried eggs you cook in butter, yummy, yum-yum. You can waffle and pancake in delirious freedom as well as toast galore. 

gl   

[lmunchkin]

I still say, eat what you want, but in moderation.

[thegrammalady]

I still say, eat what you want, but in moderation.

hear, hear! it all has to do with portion size. the potasium in a cup of mushrooms is outrageous. however 2 or 3 mushrooms in you om let is perfectly OK. substitutions work well too. i eat tangerines instrad of oranges. just not all the time.  the only thing we should absolutely never eat is starfruit! moderation is the key.

[texasstyle]

my dinner came out very good. I made just enough for a moderate portion. My daughter even liked it! lol