A theory of recovery from Dialysis.

[Charlie B53]

LOL

I was agreeing with your 'Point 9'.

I must have jumped a bit too far too fast.

Many believe that a civilized world' needs Government'.  I'm not so sure.  A truely 'Civilized' person will consider how his/her actions impact his/her fellow man and will ensure NOT to negatively impact anyone.  That would only occur in a 'Perfect World'.

An 'UN-civilized' person cares not for anyone but themselves.  However when this UN-civilized person feels imposed upon they they immediately want redress.  Want Laws  and Courts to impose penalties on whom they consider the 'oppressor'  Thus we have Governments and Politicians, which for the most part really haven't made a lot of improvement.

[kristina]

Hello Charlie,
I do appreciate your explanation, it makes it much more comprehensible.
It is amazing that - as you write - many people believe that a "civilized world" needs Government,
whereas many philosphers have explained in detail, that, the more people become aware
and ready to be educated (and as a result civilized), the less Governments are necessary...

[Charlie B53]

Exactly.  People fail to realize the immense costs of Government.  All these people now within the 'Ruling Elite', no longer employed in trade or production.  The salaries, and benefits are imposed, increasing an already serious burden of taxes on the rest of the people.  Spending 'public tax money' on needless 'projects and measures', all to get more and more tax money spent within their own district, overdrawing an already obscene budget, increasing this massive 'public' debt for generations yet to be born.  Further devaluating the currency and actually lowering the quality of life of the general public that they pretend to serve.

I hate to start quoting scripture, but I'll make the exception here.

John, the Baptist, the Harbinger. Depending on which version of the Bible you read.  John was quoted in the Aquarian Gospel of Jesus the Christ;

  24 "Your priests have bound upon the people burdens far too great to bear;  they live in ease upon the hard earned wages of the poor."

  25 "Your lawyers, doctors, scribes are useless cumberers of the ground; they are but tumors on the body of the state;"

  26 "They toil not, yet they consume the profits of your marts of trade."

  27 Your rulers are adulterers, extortioners, and thieves, regarding not the rights of any man."


This was two thousand years ago, and yet his words are still true today.

I better stop right here as this is beginning to open a whole can of worms that may be better addressed in a Political/Religious forum.

[kristina]

Exactly.  People fail to realize the immense costs of Government.  All these people now within the 'Ruling Elite', no longer employed in trade or production.  The salaries, and benefits are imposed, increasing an already serious burden of taxes on the rest of the people.  Spending 'public tax money' on needless 'projects and measures', all to get more and more tax money spent within their own district, overdrawing an already obscene budget, increasing this massive 'public' debt for generations yet to be born.  Further devaluating the currency and actually lowering the quality of life of the general public that they pretend to serve.

I hate to start quoting scripture, but I'll make the exception here.

John, the Baptist, the Harbinger. Depending on which version of the Bible you read.  John was quoted in the Aquarian Gospel of Jesus the Christ;

  24 "Your priests have bound upon the people burdens far too great to bear;  they live in ease upon the hard earned wages of the poor."

  25 "Your lawyers, doctors, scribes are useless cumberers of the ground; they are but tumors on the body of the state;"

  26 "They toil not, yet they consume the profits of your marts of trade."

  27 Your rulers are adulterers, extortioners, and thieves, regarding not the rights of any man."


This was two thousand years ago, and yet his words are still true today.

I better stop right here as this is beginning to open a whole can of worms that may be better addressed in a Political/Religious forum.

Hello Charlie,
... it just goes to show that not that much has changed in c.a. two thousand years time...
... and even before that time, one can read (between the lines) similar thoughts by Sokrates (~470/469 – ~399 BC)
and Plato (~428/427 or 424/423 – ~348/347 BC) about the very same matters...

[talker]

.................. (few month shy of 90) is irrelevant,.............
Good Lord willing and the creek don't rise, be seeing ya.

I never would have taken you to be near that old.  I guess it is just further proof that wisdom is acquired through age.


Creeks were out of their banks here last week.
This week they are frozen.

Mid-Missouri.  They have a saying about weather changing.

When I read in the newspaper about events of this nature:

Creeks were out of their banks here last week.

I do invoke and plead to the Universe that there is enough hardships and deaths by mankind, and to vent what it will, but please spare the death part from your overflowing waters.

Did call a friend in your area, only their mothers basement was affected.







Edited: Took red color out of post- kitkatz,Admin

[talker]

Questions like:

1 - Why is one so sensitive to certain events?
2 - Does one really 'ask' for certain experiences?
3 - Who in their 'right' mind would even ask for multiple illnesses and problems?
4 - Is reincarnation true or not?
5 - Is anything regards the Zodiac and reincarnation factual?
6 - Is my 'Personally, I tend to believe that the a soul, is experiencing at least (12) twelve, simultaneous physical life manifestations' right or incorrect?
7 - Is my 'So, as I see it, what one is feeling / experiencing at this moment in time, is by our choice to experience it. However     horrific, beautiful, dull, or exciting as it may be, in the experiencing, one needs to consider that ‘We’ our-self, may have actually written the script for the current drama involved in our life.', right or incorrect?
8 - To what extent 'do we / can we' control our fate?
9 - To what extent do we actually have' free will' ?
10 - If I'm responsible for any of my experiences, can I undo it?
11 - Do those souls that have passed on  say ' Wow was one hell of an experiencing ride'.

I will give these a shot....
1. Certain events may reverberate through your life as lessons you need to learn or lessons you are teaching to someone else.
2. I think when you are talking with the universe you decide the things you will learn in your life lessons while in this plane.
3. I do not think it is a"right mind" set when you are deciding these things. Lessons that are learned by your soul can often be learned or taught quicker through experiencing difficult things in your life.
4. I think souls progress through different realms here on earth. I do not think our souls become animal souls. Maybe animal souls progress into humans souls.
5. I do not know enough about the Zodiac to give an answer here.
6. 12 physical lives may be a possibility. We do experience things in our lives on different levels as we learn throughout life.
7. Yes, I think we decide for ourselves.
8. We can make choices to change things in our lives, so yes fate can be changed
9. We have free will in all of our life decisions.  However free will stops when it intersects with another person's life.
10. I think once you have experienced something as a life lesson and truly understood what it was all about you will not have to experience it again.  If you want to change experiences I think you can by changing your decisions.
11. Oh hell yes.  My soul will say it I am sure.

Hello kitkatz , were I to be 'grading' your answers to the posed rhetorical questions, you would have received a very good and high rank number. Now that you've stopped blushing, I'll venture on.
While my post might seem out of place here, to me it was not out of place.
Well maybe a bit much for the IHD forum that is strong regards kidney health and light on metaphysical aspects.
Did notice one recent new IHD member had objected to 'bringing in the God mentions'.
Were I, PC, I  would shun mentioning energies of prayer, and God things. While I don't emphasize prayer, and God things, no way will I totally avoid using them when I feel they need to be used.
Where was I !
Oh yes, as I read through old posts, reading of how 'hurting' so many are, I do at times rattle my beliefs chain, on just 'How' it all fits together.

There were 11 posed questions, yet to me, each question (in my mind's eye) is striving for how a posters comments fits into the overall scheme of that persons life and the metaphysical aspects as I'm aware of it!

Ha, will wrap it up as I'm well into the Talker mode, and 'who' is actually ready for that!

[beckums70]

I have IgA Nephropathy and am on PD for three years now.  I still urinate quite a lot, and although my kidneys do not filter as well as they need to the residual kidney function is helpful and something my doctors want to continue.  Have been on lasix (a strong diuretic) ever since I started dialysis, although I usually do not take it during the winter.  Oddly enough I never have any fluid retention unless I am out in the heat for extended periods of time.  Because I still urinate a lot I am able to drink more fluids and stay well-hydrated, which is good for my kidneys.  It also means my clearance is higher on PD than it would be if I didn't urinate.  Because I still put out about 2000ml per day my dialysis prescription is still the same as it was 3 years ago and I am on the lowest concentration of dextrose at the minimum rx for PD exchanges.  I am able to skip dialysis about 1 or 2 times per week without any adverse side effects.

From what my doctors tell me, my residual function is making my life on PD much easier to handle.  I still take Lisinopril, an ACE inhibitor that helps us IgA patients retain some kidney function and also helps preserve the peritoneum. 

I think you might be onto something with the idea that not doing as much dialysis could stimulate the kidneys to work harder, although I don't think that necessarily means they will filter adequately.  I do notice that when I skip a day of dialysis I urinate a lot more.  I suppose it's because the dialysis isn't there to remove any excess fluids, so my kidneys take up the slack.  I wish that meant they'd filter like they're supposed to, but I know that if I stopped dialysis I'd be miserable after a while.  It might be a few weeks or a few days, but I'd feel the difference.

[kristina]

I have IgA Nephropathy and am on PD for three years now.  I still urinate quite a lot, and although my kidneys do not filter as well as they need to the residual kidney function is helpful and something my doctors want to continue.  Have been on lasix (a strong diuretic) ever since I started dialysis, although I usually do not take it during the winter.  Oddly enough I never have any fluid retention unless I am out in the heat for extended periods of time.  Because I still urinate a lot I am able to drink more fluids and stay well-hydrated, which is good for my kidneys.  It also means my clearance is higher on PD than it would be if I didn't urinate.  Because I still put out about 2000ml per day my dialysis prescription is still the same as it was 3 years ago and I am on the lowest concentration of dextrose at the minimum rx for PD exchanges.  I am able to skip dialysis about 1 or 2 times per week without any adverse side effects.

From what my doctors tell me, my residual function is making my life on PD much easier to handle.  I still take Lisinopril, an ACE inhibitor that helps us IgA patients retain some kidney function and also helps preserve the peritoneum. 

I think you might be onto something with the idea that not doing as much dialysis could stimulate the kidneys to work harder, although I don't think that necessarily means they will filter adequately.  I do notice that when I skip a day of dialysis I urinate a lot more.  I suppose it's because the dialysis isn't there to remove any excess fluids, so my kidneys take up the slack.  I wish that meant they'd filter like they're supposed to, but I know that if I stopped dialysis I'd be miserable after a while.  It might be a few weeks or a few days, but I'd feel the difference.

Hello beckums70 and many thanks for your positive thoughts.
... since starting my dialysis-treatments in December 2014, I have continued to learn as much as I possibly can (as a patient) about my treatments and I have noticed, that when being in need of dialysis-treatments, it is much better for me to stay "on it" for as long as possible, in my case 3 times a week for 4 hours each time. 
I have also continued with my kidney-friendly vegetarian diet and still go for my regular walks and all that keeps my body (and intellect) as healthy and as positive as I possibly can be under the circumstances. Being in need of dialysis-treatments, it seems to matter quite a lot for my well-being to try hard to combine my dialysis-treatments with a very healthy life-style in order to create a much better quality of life i.e. reading interesting books, learning new pieces on the piano and enjoying life as much as is possible under the circumstances.
... One of my favourite (political) poets (Nazim Hikmet) wrote once from his prison-cell:
Being captured is beside the point : The point is not to surrender...
Kind regards and best wishes from Kristina.

[kristina]

P.S. Since I habe brought Nazim Hikmet (1902 - 1963) into this discussion above, I feel that I should add that Nazim Hikmet has done nothing, except writing very powerful poetry
and for doing so, he was incarcerated for many years in prison... His poetry has always inspired people to fight back against political and social oppression and that explains his prison-sentences... But ...  since he also suffered from a very disabling heart disease, I, as a chronic kidney-disease-sufferer (chronic proliferative glomerulonephritis), have always taken his poetry as an inspiration to carry on with what I wanted to achieve despite my shortcomings as a kidney-disease-sufferer... i.e. studying at University, writing my own poetry, having exhibitions with my paintings, learning how to read music and to play the piano  etc...