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« on: September 21, 2011, 06:32:38 PM »

For those of us with urine output, what exactly is released in our urine? Is it just water, or does anything from the blood get released at all?
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« Reply #1 on: September 21, 2011, 06:45:12 PM »

I believe it's the 24 hour urine test (those jugs) that really show what amount of filtration you're getting. The kidney can often still pass fluid but it's filters are shot, so I think the toxins (certain molecules) are not caught and stay in your bloodstream.
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« Reply #2 on: September 21, 2011, 07:28:44 PM »

If you are still going, your samples may also contain blood or excess protein from the damaged kidneys.
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« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2011, 11:20:23 PM »

When they tested my urine I know for sure I spill protins and blood into my urine...I can tell cause when I pee I get a large amount of foam i guess this is the protein....ask them to do a test to see
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« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2011, 09:41:16 AM »

as you are probably aware, what's actually released in your urine is urea, chloridne,sodium,potassium,creatine, amongst other things. I  guess a lot has to do with how much function is left in your kidneys. I have heard through the nurses those on dialysis pretty much are only peeing water for the most part. That's Way it's so very important to follow the renal diet because you are not ridding anything and it becomes excess waste and becomes toxic in too much quantity. As you are also aware, a normal functioning kidney has millions of tiny nephrons which collect the units of "waste" from your blood which passes through your kidneys. Inside each of these Nephrons are Glomeruli which are the tiny little filers. With kidneys disease these are all messed up lol, . I wish I could figure out proper wording for the "messed up" part lol.
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« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2011, 12:04:55 PM »

i remember when i was told my kidneys were shot by my nephrologist.  I told him I still pee, he said yeah, you may still pee but you're not really peeing anything out. 

I never asked him for specifics, but it does makes sense from what you guys have said.  You may still pee but it'll most likely be water, your kidneys aren't pulling out the toxins.
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« Reply #6 on: September 23, 2011, 04:42:34 PM »

Proteinuria is when there is an above average amount of proteins spilled into the urine often making it "foamy". Normally, protein molecules are too big to pass through the kidneys filters, but when the kidney have damage they are able to pass through. My father had this condition a couple years ago with a mild decrease in his GFR. He was put on cellcept and steroids for a year. Since then, his protein levels in his urine have been good. Recently, a creatine number came back high from some bloodwork, but was apparently some kind of misunderstanding. So, he is still doing well. Because of him, I had heard and learned about Proteinuria. Foamy urine can also be a sign of a kidney infection. Now I know you guys all have specialists you are already seeing but a continual amount of foamy urine is worth something for a Dr. do check out.
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« Reply #7 on: October 28, 2011, 12:48:28 PM »

I think ifs a case by case basis. When I first went on dialysis I had no urine output. After a transplant that lasted 18 years, I'm back on dialysis with some output. I am on a less strict diet now than before with similar lab values, so my kidney seems to be filtering some.
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« Reply #8 on: November 02, 2011, 04:27:27 PM »

When they tested my urine I know for sure I spill protins and blood into my urine...I can tell cause when I pee I get a large amount of foam i guess this is the protein....ask them to do a test to see
Only some ESRD sufferers get protein in their urine (proteinuria).  It depends which type of kidney disease you have.  Some types are associated more with proteinuria.
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« Reply #11 on: November 04, 2011, 11:49:02 AM »

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CKD since: 1981
9.22.10: Catheter surgery
9.23.10: Started in center Hemo
10.06.10: Fistula surgery
12.02.10: Started using right upper arm Fistula (15 gauge)
12.30.10: Catheter Removed
07.01.11: Laparoscopic CAPD Catheter insertion
07.29.11: Started CAPD, 2000ml, 4 exchanges (Baxter)
08.15.11: Started filling with 1500ml (instead of 2000ml), 4 exchanges
08.21.11: Back to 2000ml fills, 4 exchanges (3-2.5% & 1-1.5%)
10.12.11: 2000ml fills, 4 exchanges (3 1.5% & 1-2.5% overnight)
11.08.11: Transplant list

Dialysis works for me, I don't work for dialysis!
It's my body, my health!!
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