Hidden Phosphorus -- In Lemonade Mix!

[Zach]

Always read the label ... or make it from scratch, not a mix.



Country Time - drink mix - Lemonade

Ingredients: SUGAR, FRUCTOSE, CITRIC ACID (PROVIDES TARTNESS), CONTAINS LESS THAN 2% OF NATURAL FLAVOR, ASCORBIC ACID (VITAMIN C), MALTODEXTRIN, SODIUM ACID PYROPHOSPHATE, SODIUM CITRATE (CONTROLS ACIDITY), MAGNESIUM OXIDE (PREVENTS CAKING), CALCIUM FUMARATE, SOY LECITHIN, ARTIFICIAL COLOR, YELLOW 5 LAKE, TOCOPHEROL (PRESERVES FRESHNESS). CONTAINS: SOY.

http://www.kraftrecipes.com/Products/ProductInfoDisplay.aspx?SiteId=1&Product=4300095147

[Dannyboy]

Interesting.   I'm new at reading the labels to watch for potassium and phosphorus and etc.    I found this sheet on the web:
http://www.innophos.com/__sitedocs/product_certifications/bp-pyro.pdf

If I'm reading the datasheet correctly, there is 27,700 mg of phosphorus per 100 grams of sodium acid pyrophosphate.   A 100 grams is about 3.5 ounces.    So a relevant question would be how much of this stuff do they put in the mix per serving, right?     Or is ANY too much??   I notice it has a lot of sodium too.

More wondering from a newbie.
---Dan

[greg10]

"Country Time - drink mix - Lemonade
CONTAINS LESS THAN 2% OF NATURAL FLAVOR, ..
 SODIUM ACID PYROPHOSPHATE, SODIUM CITRATE ..
 CONTAINS: SOY"

This stuff may look like lemonade, but it can't be. 
Why would anyone drink this stuff?

The safest drink I find is just water, with a slice of lemon or lime.  Add Splenda if you must, but avoid the other sugar substitutes such as acesulfame which could significantly elevate your insulin and we all know how diabetes can damage your kidneys.  Often a drink may have advertised it is flavored with Splenda, but in fact they have added just as much acesulfame.

[Arcticat2000]

My dietician warned me about Kool-Aid also.

[Bill Peckham]

Mike's Hard Lemonade has 0 potassium 
http://www.sparkpeople.com/calories-in.asp?food=mikes+hard+lemonade

[cattlekid]

I knew I loved that stuff for many reasons.   

Mike's Hard Lemonade has 0 potassium 
http://www.sparkpeople.com/calories-in.asp?food=mikes+hard+lemonade

[MooseMom]

I buy those flavored water drinks for my stepson; he thinks they're healthy because they are advertised as such, naturally.  I happened to glance at the label of one of them; it was just water with lemon flavor, so it was clear (ie, no cola color), and I assumed it was "safe".  But it had phosphoric acid!  I couldn't believe it!

I, too, just stick to ice water or iced tea.  I get my iced tea bags from Hawaii, and it is the best stuff I've ever drunk (and I used to not like iced tea at all!), so I don't miss the soda crap.  I know my tea is "safe", so that's one whole food group (beverages) that I don't have to worry about.  Anything that reduces the worry factor of CKD is a good thing!

[boswife]

ok MM (and oh so good to have you back  ) whats your tea secret??  Can you give it out    Im all into ordering something thats better somewhere else.  If ya dont mind sharing, i'd love to send for some too...

[MooseMom]

ok MM (and oh so good to have you back  ) whats your tea secret??  Can you give it out    Im all into ordering something thats better somewhere else.  If ya dont mind sharing, i'd love to send for some too...

I get a passion fruit flavored tea from The Hawaiian Tea Company in Maui.  They have excellent customer service, and if you order more than $25 worth of stuff, you get free shipping (and it is FAST shipping!).  Or, I just use regular old Lipton tea; I steep two bags in 2 cups of boiling water for 10-15 minutes, cover,  then I remove the bags and add two cups of cold water and pop it into the fridge.  I use fresh lemon or lime for a burst of flavor.  (I prepare the passion fruit tea the same way).  I've tried lots of different flavored teas in the past, but I just haven't liked them, but when I discovered this tea from Hawaii, I was hooked.  I find that I don't really want anything else to drink; I don't miss colas or soft drinks at all.

[Marina]

Mike's Hard Lemonade has 0 potassium 
http://www.sparkpeople.com/calories-in.asp?food=mikes+hard+lemonade

      party  at  Bill's       bring your  own  Mike's  hard  lemonade!!     

[Dannyboy]

Found this on a Nutrition website:   
"....The amount of potassium in acesulfame potassium is extremely small. A packet of tabletop sweetener containing acesulfame potassium has just 10 mg of potassium......"

Would such a tiny amount of potassium per serving be a problem?     I was told to keep my dietary potassium (pre-dialysis mind you) below 1400 mg per day, so the amount of potassium in acesulfame potassium sweetener doesn't seem like much when used to sweeten an entire drink (ie without any real sugar), but I'm probably missing something here??
---Dan

[Zach]

Found this on a Nutrition website:   
"....The amount of potassium in acesulfame potassium is extremely small. A packet of tabletop sweetener containing acesulfame potassium has just 10 mg of potassium......"

Would such a tiny amount of potassium per serving be a problem?     I was told to keep my dietary potassium (pre-dialysis mind you) below 1400 mg per day, so the amount of potassium in acesulfame potassium sweetener doesn't seem like much when used to sweeten an entire drink (ie without any real sugar), but I'm probably missing something here??
---Dan

I would think it would not add a significant amount of potassium to your diet.

Interesting.   I'm new at reading the labels to watch for potassium and phosphorus and etc.    I found this sheet on the web:
http://www.innophos.com/__sitedocs/product_certifications/bp-pyro.pdf

If I'm reading the datasheet correctly, there is 27,700 mg of phosphorus per 100 grams of sodium acid pyrophosphate.   A 100 grams is about 3.5 ounces.    So a relevant question would be how much of this stuff do they put in the mix per serving, right?     Or is ANY too much??   I notice it has a lot of sodium too.

More wondering from a newbie.
---Dan

Unfortunately, since Kraft doesn't list phosphorus in the nutritional label, we have no idea how much is in a serving of CountryTime Lemonade.  But it might be similar to a serving of a cola, so it's best to avoid it altogether because the inorganic phosphorus (even in seemingly small amounts) is highly absorbable.  However, if one wants to drink the lemonade --or for that matter a cola (in moderation), just know you probably need to take a additional binder for it.

The reason I started this thread (and others on the same topic) is to alert IHD members to less obvious sources of phosphorus that may be causing their levels to increase.  In the past, people on dialysis were told that items such as lemonade, jell-o and cool whip had no phosphorus in them.  Today that may not be the case.

Forewarned is forearmed.

[Dannyboy]

Zach,  Your posting has got me looking at the labels more closely:   I found even the "diet" popcicles I buy have acesulfame potassium in them, and I was surprised to find that many "regular" sodas (ie not "diet") have acesulfame potassium in them, apparently so they can reduce the amount of sugar (ie to save production costs).
---Dan