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« on: November 21, 2006, 10:25:33 PM »

I am suffering so bad from heart burn, i never experienced before until they switched me from Fosrenol to Renagel.  Now, not only is it heart burn i am suffering from, i am throwing up too,  not alot, just especially after i get the heartburn,  i told my doc this but he didnt do anything about it,  does anyone know anything about this or am i just like at my end?? 
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« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2006, 10:30:10 PM »

It is the changeover form Fosrenol.  Can you go back to it?  Or are you stuck?
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« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2006, 04:49:37 AM »

Move over to PhosLo.

How's you CO2  ??


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« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2006, 04:55:20 AM »

I am suffering so bad from heart burn, i never experienced before until they switched me from Fosrenol to Renagel.  Now, not only is it heart burn i am suffering from, i am throwing up too,  not alot, just especially after i get the heartburn,  i told my doc this but he didnt do anything about it,  does anyone know anything about this or am i just like at my end?? 
Must be common goofynina, I suffered same symptoms with Renagel, until I went over to Phoslo.
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« Reply #4 on: November 22, 2006, 08:09:09 AM »

Move over to PhosLo.

How's you CO2  ??


Here's some interesting reading:
http://www.newswire.ca/en/releases/archive/July2006/18/c7582.html

And make sure you read the last few paragraphs, beginning with the phrase:  "Tissue deposition of lanthanum ..."

Thank you Zach,  i have now made a call to my neph to discuss changing me back to Fosrenol  :2thumbsup;
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« Reply #5 on: November 22, 2006, 03:32:33 PM »

I'm not on the same meds as you but some days I get it so bad when I swallow I feel severe pain in my sternum area and it feels like I'm going to blow up. I had pancreatitus once and thats about how bad it gets. So sorry to hear that your experiencing this problem hope the Doc can help you get adjusted to your new meds. Take Care
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« Reply #6 on: November 22, 2006, 06:22:22 PM »

I also get bad heartburn, I never knew it may be caused from Renegal... never pu 2 and 2 together.... I used to take PhosLo but they switched me to Renegel cuz my phosphorus was high, but its still high... maybe I should just switch back, if its gona remain high I would rather be heartburn free.  :lol; Thanks for the info, hope your feeling better.
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« Reply #7 on: November 22, 2006, 08:02:02 PM »

I take phoslo and prevacid for the hearburn.  I've had heartburn since I was 16. (give or take a few yrs.)  I throw up when the heartburn is really bad.  For some reason when I wake up in the morning then stand up, the heartburn hits real quick.  Thats when I usually throw up.  YUCK....some days I have to take 2 prevacid,. just depends on how early i take the first one.
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« Reply #8 on: November 26, 2006, 08:50:26 PM »

I have found my miracle drug to help me with my heartburn,  a friend of mine (Frances) gave me some Nexium.  Those things are so expensive but well worth it, i have not had heartburn since wed. the day i started taking it  :2thumbsup;
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« Reply #9 on: November 26, 2006, 09:07:21 PM »

Goofynina,  :2thumbsup; FANTASTIC :2thumbsup;
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« Reply #10 on: November 27, 2006, 09:41:53 AM »

I take phoslo and prevacid for the hearburn.  I've had heartburn since I was 16. (give or take a few yrs.)  I throw up when the heartburn is really bad.  For some reason when I wake up in the morning then stand up, the heartburn hits real quick.  Thats when I usually throw up.  YUCK....some days I have to take 2 prevacid,. just depends on how early i take the first one.

I thought phoslo was a phoshorus binder? At least thats what i took it for... I never heard of taking phoslo for heartburn... is this true? If so, i got a cabinet full and I shall take some when i get heartburn, maybe my phosphorus will go down too..  :lol;
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« Reply #11 on: November 27, 2006, 03:42:03 PM »

I take phoslo and prevacid for the hearburn.  I've had heartburn since I was 16. (give or take a few yrs.)  I throw up when the heartburn is really bad.  For some reason when I wake up in the morning then stand up, the heartburn hits real quick.  Thats when I usually throw up.  YUCK....some days I have to take 2 prevacid,. just depends on how early i take the first one.

I thought phoslo was a phoshorus binder? At least thats what i took it for... I never heard of taking phoslo for heartburn... is this true? If so, i got a cabinet full and I shall take some when i get heartburn, maybe my phosphorus will go down too..  :lol;

My side effects list says the phoslo can cause the heartburn, not treat it.  Nausea is a common side effect, too.
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« Reply #12 on: November 27, 2006, 06:22:33 PM »

I take phoslo and prevacid for the hearburn.  I've had heartburn since I was 16. (give or take a few yrs.)  I throw up when the heartburn is really bad.  For some reason when I wake up in the morning then stand up, the heartburn hits real quick.  Thats when I usually throw up.  YUCK....some days I have to take 2 prevacid,. just depends on how early i take the first one.

I thought phoslo was a phoshorus binder? At least thats what i took it for... I never heard of taking phoslo for heartburn... is this true? If so, i got a cabinet full and I shall take some when i get heartburn, maybe my phosphorus will go down too..  :lol;

Exactly, mine too... thats why I asked, cuz he said he takes it FOR heartburn.

My side effects list says the phoslo can cause the heartburn, not treat it.  Nausea is a common side effect, too.
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« Reply #13 on: November 27, 2006, 07:50:50 PM »

Tubes takes prevacid for the heartburn.

Renagel may cause heartburn because it may also cause your CO2 to drop below normal.  This, in turn, may cause acidosis.


... some days I have to take 2 prevacid ...
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« Reply #14 on: November 28, 2006, 03:12:11 PM »

I get this too and have also had an ulcer and severe inflammation diagnosed after vomiting blood. My consultant also switched me to Nexium as I was having to have very high doses of the other usual ones and he thought this might help. So far so good. :)
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« Reply #15 on: November 28, 2006, 06:48:39 PM »

Sorry, i didnt clarify that very well.
Zach is right.  Prevacid is for the hearburn.

My bad. :-[  :-[ 
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« Reply #16 on: December 25, 2006, 03:33:49 PM »

My husband had heartburn too.  Didn't realize it was the renagel until he stopped taking them when he started nocturnal.  Phos on nocturnal is not a big problem .  When he gets off the machine in the morning it is below normal.  He now eats what ever he wants.  If it is something that he knows has a lot of phos like cheese whiz he will wait until he is hooked to the machine to eat it so that it will come off during treatment.
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« Reply #17 on: December 25, 2006, 08:10:14 PM »

I've been having the heartburn lately which is unusual for me.
I take Phoslo.
The other night I got sick it was so bad.
When I have it I sort of crave milk.
Will have to try nexium or something like that I guess.
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« Reply #18 on: December 25, 2006, 08:16:09 PM »

I've been having the heartburn lately which is unusual for me.
I take Phoslo.
The other night I got sick it was so bad.
When I have it I sort of crave milk.
Will have to try nexium or something like that I guess.



I use Prilosec OTC.
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« Reply #19 on: December 25, 2006, 08:39:58 PM »

I will try that.
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« Reply #20 on: December 25, 2006, 08:42:12 PM »

pepcid ac is great for a quick-fix
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« Reply #21 on: December 25, 2006, 08:42:31 PM »

I will try that.


14 Day supply is about $14.00  check with your Neph first.
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« Reply #22 on: December 25, 2006, 08:55:48 PM »

I have also done Pepcid AC.
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« Reply #23 on: December 29, 2006, 03:41:24 AM »

I have found my miracle drug to help me with my heartburn,  a friend of mine (Frances) gave me some Nexium.  Those things are so expensive but well worth it, i have not had heartburn since wed. the day i started taking it  :2thumbsup;

I used to be on nexium but it was getting hard to get a script for the high dose i was on. I changed to acimax (omeprazole) which is virtually the same and I think its cheaper, and I now never get heartburn or reflux. There are others that are much the same, losec, somac etc.
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« Reply #24 on: December 29, 2006, 08:31:24 PM »

I got some that was the Kroger brand like pepcid ac. 
It was less expensive.  It did seem to help.
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