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kristina
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« on: April 08, 2009, 09:39:37 AM »
Has anyone tried the "BioEnergiser D-tox Spa System" ? Their information doesn't mention anything about the kidneys but I have heard that it might have an effect. It is another type of D-tox system to clean the blood and this one works through a foot-bath. They have a web-site. Does anyone have any experience with it? Could something like this work? Thank you, kind regards from Kristina.
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« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2009, 10:20:13 AM »
I've read that in Roman times people would take hot baths to relieve the symptoms of urea.
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« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2009, 10:25:48 AM »
No.  It won't work.  Dont waste your money.  On this or toxin cleansing foot pads, or acai juice.
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« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2009, 09:50:13 PM »
Quote from: Wallyz on April 08, 2009, 10:25:48 AM
No.  It won't work.  Dont waste your money.  On this or toxin cleansing foot pads, or acai juice.

Wallyz is right.
You're grasping at straws.

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No transplant.  Not yet, anyway.  Only decided to be listed on 11/9/06. Inactive at the moment.  ;)
I make films.

Just the facts: 70.0 kgs. (about 154 lbs.)
Treatment: Tue-Thur-Sat   5.5 hours, 2x/wk, 6 hours, 1x/wk
Dialysate flow (Qd)=600;  Blood pump speed(Qb)=315
Fresenius Optiflux-180 filter--without reuse
Fresenius 2008T dialysis machine
My KDOQI Nutrition (+/ -):  2,450 Calories, 84 grams Protein/day.

"Living a life, not an apology."
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« Reply #4 on: April 09, 2009, 07:49:01 AM »
Point taken. Yes, what did the Romans do for us? Roads? Education? Sewers? Underfloor-Heating? etc., etc., etc., etc.... but I will think twice about it.
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« Reply #5 on: April 09, 2009, 09:22:20 AM »
Even if it did work, it's not going to work well enough to have any significant effect on someone who has next to no kidney function.  Sweating releases toxins from the body, yes.  Soaking in a hot spring, or hot foot bath will likely feel good and help you relax.  But would it show any significant change in a lab test - very doubtful.
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« Reply #6 on: April 09, 2009, 11:56:22 AM »
Quote from: Wallyz on April 08, 2009, 10:25:48 AM
No.  It won't work.  Don't waste your money.  On this or toxin cleansing foot pads, or acai juice.

See I use the toxin cleansing foot pads.  And your right not cause it makes me feel any better. But because the is pulling something out. I figure every little bit helps.  After using them once and seeing what it pulls out, I can't stop.  Just knowing that all that was in my body and is now out, gives me a little piece of mind.
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« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2009, 09:41:10 AM »
I hate to be a pessimist, but i'm of the opinion that if it sounds to good to be true, it probaly isn't. If it's free or cheap, it might be a pleasure. otherwise, you can soak your feet in a tub of epson salts. that always feels good.
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« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2009, 10:18:04 AM »
Quote from: hurlock1 on April 22, 2009, 09:41:10 AM
I hate to be a pessimist, but i'm of the opinion that if it sounds to good to be true, it probaly isn't. If it's free or cheap, it might be a pleasure. otherwise, you can soak your feet in a tub of epson salts. that always feels good.

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Uninterrupted in-center (self-care) hemodialysis since 1982 -- 34 YEARS on March 3, 2016 !!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
No transplant.  Not yet, anyway.  Only decided to be listed on 11/9/06. Inactive at the moment.  ;)
I make films.

Just the facts: 70.0 kgs. (about 154 lbs.)
Treatment: Tue-Thur-Sat   5.5 hours, 2x/wk, 6 hours, 1x/wk
Dialysate flow (Qd)=600;  Blood pump speed(Qb)=315
Fresenius Optiflux-180 filter--without reuse
Fresenius 2008T dialysis machine
My KDOQI Nutrition (+/ -):  2,450 Calories, 84 grams Protein/day.

"Living a life, not an apology."
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« Reply #9 on: April 24, 2009, 02:22:29 AM »
Thank you for your thoughts, it is very much appreciated. Kind regards from Kristina.
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  He was completion and fulfillment in itself, like a meteor which follows its own path.
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                                          ...  Oportet Vivere ...
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