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« on: January 25, 2009, 02:11:20 AM »
So I had a fun session yesterday. When I started in the igloo that was our unit (the staff were complaining!) the machine air sensor was whinging, but the boss came and fixed it etc... machine was fine for the next 4 hours. Then it went totally nuts first it was alarming on the arterial pressure, and then the air detector went crapola.. so they all came running and couldn't solve it so decided to dump everything.. so there they went disconnected me, dumped all my blood that was out of me at the time, dumped everything and set up again (didn't want to risk giving me back my blood that may have some air in it)... so i got to freeze an extra half hour or so....

Something interesting always happens when I wear my IHD t shirt.... hmmmmmmm

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« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2009, 02:23:46 AM »
Was this the same day you mentioned freezing in chat RM?

Hope you didn't feel to bad after the session. Not sure how much blood is taken out when running. I know I read about it in the forum, but can't remember.

Hopefully next treatment will go better. You have a reason to wear that shirt though. If it happens again, time for a new IHD sirt, it  might have some bad mojo.
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« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2009, 02:31:58 AM »
I'v been told that less than 1 cup of blood is out of the body at one time.  Periodically my arterial and venous bounce back and forth with air and I see the bubbles in the blood coming out of me..what's up with that?  I'm not an airhead....the techs where I'm at seem to be good at taking care of everything so they don't have to dump blood..I hate that.  I hope your next session goes good.  Have a nice weekend RM.
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« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2009, 04:33:06 AM »
they told me they were dumping 200ml so out of 8lt of blood in the body (approx) you're still looking at like 2-3% loss. That's OK I guess....

and yep Chris that was the same freezing I had....

Still the next week here temps are set over 30C (85F) and a few days around 40C (>100F) so... I will probably be wishing for the aircon.. but the thing is not when it was THAT low that we were all freezing...
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« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2009, 04:48:13 AM »
Hi,

This is something I haven't heard about (air in blood)
Anything that happens when you are on the D Machine
has to be scarey!  I hope it is over and you don't have
to go thru that crap anymore, Richard

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« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2009, 04:52:29 AM »
thanks. today is just my 2.5 year anniversary so I'm a dialysis baby but once in over 2 years is OK with me...

still I hope Tuesday's session is very VERY boring and uneventful :) I've had my quota this week :)
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« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2009, 11:53:39 AM »
I actually wrote  one of my  dialysis units up for having it to damn cold.   It was winter and it was freezing to the point my teeth were chattering.   I have also had a dialyzer spring a leak and they had to change it all out on me in the middle of the night.
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« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2009, 01:31:17 PM »
Quote from: G-Ma on January 25, 2009, 02:31:58 AM

I'v been told that less than 1 cup of blood is out of the body at one time.


That's sort of close.

Filling the tubing and the dialyzers comes close to 300 cc (depends on the size of the filter), which equals about 10 fluid ounces.
1 cup = 8 fl oz.
 
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« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2009, 02:53:32 PM »
Thanks Zach.
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Gortex 4/07.  Started dialysis in ND 5/4/2007
Gortex clotted off Thanksgiving Week of 2007, was unclotted and promptly clotted off 1/2 hour later so Permacath Rt chest.
3/2008 move to NC to be close to children.
2 Step fistula, 05/08-elevated 06/08, using mid August.
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« Reply #9 on: January 25, 2009, 11:38:30 PM »
I usually use a FX80 but if I'm lucky they'll give me a 100....
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« Reply #10 on: January 26, 2009, 05:42:44 AM »
The "circuit", the tubing and dialyzer is 250-300cc.  Doesn't sound like a lot, in relation to total body capacity.  However, remeber that a unit of transfused blood is about that same amount.  They should check your Hemoglobin the very next treatment, and adjust your EPO if need be. 
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« Reply #11 on: January 26, 2009, 06:15:58 AM »
Quote from: nursewratchet on January 26, 2009, 05:42:44 AM

The "circuit", the tubing and dialyzer is 250-300cc.  Doesn't sound like a lot, in relation to total body capacity.  However, remeber that a unit of transfused blood is about that same amount.  They should check your Hemoglobin the very next treatment, and adjust your EPO if need be. 


Excellent point!

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No transplant.  Not yet, anyway.  Only decided to be listed on 11/9/06. Inactive at the moment.  ;)
I make films.

Just the facts: 70.0 kgs. (about 154 lbs.)
Treatment: Tue-Thur-Sat   5.5 hours, 2x/wk, 6 hours, 1x/wk
Dialysate flow (Qd)=600;  Blood pump speed(Qb)=315
Fresenius Optiflux-180 filter--without reuse
Fresenius 2008T dialysis machine
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« Reply #12 on: January 26, 2009, 04:45:03 PM »
Yep NurseW the hemoglobin blood test is already set for today. We discussed this. We had a bit of a debate because my aranesp is due today (Tues) and they wanted to give me my dose on Saturday, but I said well if I have a dose on Saturday won't that affect the hemoglobin levels tested on Tuesday thus making it a bit unreliable? Besides it will have been 3 weeks since my last shot (but when I was last tested 2 days after my shot I was at 127 which is too high, so chatted with the neph and he agreed to change my aranesp to every 3 weeks) anyway they agreed to hold off on giving me my aranesp until today(Tues) when it is due and doing the blood test when I get on so it should give a more reliable indication of where I am with the hemoglobin.

I think my lot are on the ball in terms of all that :) It will be interesting to see what the test comes back with.
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« Reply #13 on: January 27, 2009, 08:25:16 PM »
I'm sorry RM!  :cuddle; :cuddle; :cuddle;
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« Reply #14 on: February 07, 2009, 05:59:30 AM »
How is your Hemoglobin?  I can't relate to your levels.  127 is different measurement than we do. 
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« Reply #15 on: February 09, 2009, 02:44:58 AM »
NurseW it's down to 118 which is just fine. I think our measure is g/dL or something. It's not quite right to divide our figure by 10 to get yours, but it's close enough.
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« Reply #16 on: February 09, 2009, 02:47:30 AM »
Kinda wondered were you were RM due to the fires and you not posting as usual.
View the reply at: http://ihatedialysis.com/forum/index.php?topic=12348.new;topicseen#new
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Neuropathy in legs age 10

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   -glaucoma and surgery for that
     -cataract surgery twice on same eye (2000 - 2002). another one growing in good eye
     - vitrectomy in good eye post tx November 2003, totally blind for 4 months due to complications with meds and infection

Diagnosed with ESRD June 29, 1999
1st Dialysis - July 4, 1999
Last Dialysis - December 2, 2000

Kidney and Pancreas Transplant - December 3, 2000

Cataract Surgery on good eye - June 24, 2009
Knee Surgery 2010
2011/2012 in process of getting a guide dog
Guide Dog Training begins July 2, 2012 in NY
Guide Dog by end of July 2012
Next eye surgery late 2012 or 2013 if I feel like it
Home with Guide dog - July 27, 2012
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Eye Surgery - Nov 2012
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