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« on: October 31, 2016, 12:41:14 AM »

I was lucky to eat an all dressed pizza with BARELY ANY of the tomato sauce at all. I never minded ONE BIT that there was hardly any pizza tomato sauce. Was good, no matter what.I added a ton of Mozzarella to it, yes it was GOOD!!

I couldn't believe a QUALITY All Dressed pizza could remain SO good, no matter the specs of the sauce level.
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« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2016, 09:14:47 AM »

There are such huge differences in Pizza.   Wife likes the thick oily bottom 'pan' pizza while I prefer a softer hand tossed.  Once in a while we will go for one of the thin crust, almost like a cracker.

Then there are all the toppings.  Single toppings are for kids.  Wife and I both prefer EVERYTHING, except anchovies.

Casey's General Store here in the Mid-West has one of our favorite 'Supreme' pizza.  Casey's also has a 'Taco' pizza without pizza sauce, using something like a refried bean paste as the base spread.  Not bad at all.

I usually ask and say 'Please' to spread everything out as near the edge as possible,leaving just the smallest un-covered crust.   Very nice.   Oh, and EXTRA Cheese always!






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« Reply #2 on: October 31, 2016, 11:20:39 AM »

I always get an individual pizza, and it's always cheese and extra cheese.  And, yes, I do eat the whole thing, all by my ( not so little) self.
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« Reply #3 on: October 31, 2016, 12:34:21 PM »

I'm amazed you guys eat so much cheese-with such abandon.  I have been avoiding it like the plague.  Too high in phosphorus without enough protein to make it worthwhile/
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« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2016, 02:35:35 PM »

I'm amazed you guys eat so much cheese-with such abandon.  I have been avoiding it like the plague.  Too high in phosphorus without enough protein to make it worthwhile/

Cheese IS pretty high in protein, pretty high in phosphorus too, AND low in K+ too

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« Reply #5 on: October 31, 2016, 04:11:22 PM »

Everyone reacts a bit differently.  I eat potatoes and pasta w/tomatoe sauce and have no trouble keeping K in a normal range.   I have to avoid high P foods as that number is a bit harder for me to control.






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« Reply #6 on: October 31, 2016, 09:09:03 PM »

mmmm pizza. I'm partial to ham and pineapple. don't forget the side of ranch! And a handful of binders!

Cheese is my biggest downfall. I was able to give up Diet Coke cold turkey with minimal complaining on my part, but I will NOT forsake my cheese. I'd rather swallow an extra pill.
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« Reply #7 on: October 31, 2016, 09:42:52 PM »

Now that he's back in-center, hubby misses his baked potatoes. He could have all he wanted when he was doing home hemo but not anymore. Neph was very pleased with how fast he brought his potassium and phos down when she told him to. So sometimes he indulges but then quickly pulls back before it becomes a habit. He loves eating big veggie omelots for the protein. Those seem to give him the best energy boost. And he takes his binders like he should. 
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« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2017, 07:21:10 PM »

I don't indulge in hard cheese anymore.  I was buying a vegetarian cheese with no phos, but each slice had 200 grams of sodium.  I do enjoy a bagel with cream cheese or low sodium crackers with sour cream.  My clean protein is egg whites with pizza sauce or ketchup or fruit.  I'm getting to like it, and I also like my phosphorus level 1.6 and no itching.
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« Reply #9 on: September 06, 2017, 09:09:45 PM »

I generally limit my hard cheese to the sample tray at the supermarket.  Fortunately for me, they only put it out about one day in ten.
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« Reply #10 on: September 07, 2017, 05:34:14 AM »


I tell people that something has to kill me, otherwise I might livve forever.

I like cheese far too much, but I am learning not to have so much so often, and to always take my binders.

Wife, Son, and Grandson all like Pizza so I am too often left with the choice to eat it, or don't eat unless I make something for myself.  As lazy as I am I will eat it, and take my binders.

But I also usually limit myself to two slices, not the 4 that I used to eat.
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« Reply #11 on: September 07, 2017, 06:35:55 AM »

I'm originally from Wisconsin, so I'm not giving up my cheese!!  I too eat pizza and love a good helping of cheese on it.  Thank goodness for binders.

However, I'm trying to go a different route.  I've been making my own pizzas from scratch so I can control the ingredients.  In fact, I'm trying a new recipe today.  Hopefully it will be a little more healthy than the ones I get from local restaurants.

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« Reply #12 on: September 07, 2017, 07:45:43 AM »

I check my monthly lab work if it's good I will get a occasional pizza, or chicken park sub.  I am lucky to prefer my pasta with enough sauce to make it pink, if my lab work not so good it's pasta with white clam sauce.
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« Reply #13 on: September 08, 2017, 02:48:27 AM »


Not very often will I give in and have a big plate of fettecini Alfredo.  Used to have it far more often but that was a long time ago.

The addition of sea food makes it even better!  Alas, shellfish now has to be even more restricted as it is a gout trigger.
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« Reply #14 on: September 08, 2017, 09:27:04 AM »


Red Lobster has a lobster pizza. I need to investigate the numbers, but for now, I gratefully eat as much as I want. No red sauce, but some kind of white sauce and hunks of lobster. Life is good.
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« Reply #15 on: September 12, 2017, 08:12:33 AM »

Mmmm!  All the talk of lobster and other shellfish makes me hungry!  My favorite is grilled shrimp... so yummy!  But I cannot partake as I am allergic.  I have bad reactions to it and have had to go to the ER.  I just stay away from it now.  I lived in Beaufort, SC as a small child and would catch crabs and cook them on the beach with my family.  I love just about all seafood!
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« Reply #16 on: September 13, 2017, 03:46:35 AM »


When we lived North of Seattle I would go out on the water at least a couple times a week, fishing, crabbing.  Shrimp season was a short couple of weeks twice a year.   Partner had a commercial license so I would 'Crew' with him and we would both load our freezers with tails.  Wife very quickly learned she could not eat fresh shellfish.  Somehow I figured out soaking them, keep changing the water and re-soaking them until there was no more iodine blackening of the water made it safe for her to eat without negative symptoms.

You may want to see an allergist for an iodine sensitivity test.

I really miss living on the Sound.  But my gout might not like me to eat like I used to.  Shellfish are one of many triggers. But there are still so many other great reasons for living there.  I really REALLY miss it!

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