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« on: October 27, 2011, 03:04:10 PM »

Hey all, sorry if I seem to be making repeat threads :/ But has anyone gotten gout after starting dialysis? A couple days ago my foot started to swell up and it was all red and hurt to touch it. I went to the doctor today for my labs and I showed him and the nurse. He said it looks like acute gout and he gave me a prescription for Prednisone, and to only take it for 4 days, and if it doesn't get better, let them know and they'll do an xray...so I was just wondering if anyone else has had this, or has heard of it happening.
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« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2011, 03:27:09 PM »

My foot hurts in the heel. My dr, thought it might be gout and said many on dialysis get it. I actually have something else wrong.
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« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2011, 05:53:48 PM »

Gout is a pretty common side effect of kidney failure. Of course I only found out about this myself when I was on a trip to the US (this is years pre-D btw) and had an attack. Went to the ER at UCSD it was so painful, and they had no clue - even with me telling them my kidney failure diagnosis etc (the sweet part of this is that travel insurance covered the cost, despite technically it being due to a pre existing medical condition...). Anyway when I got home and talked to my neph about it he said "oh yeah that's very common." and put me on allopurinol which seems to be the bog standard preventative treatment for gout. I never had an attack since then.

I'm sorry you had that attack - I know just how horrible it is!!! Seems like you should be on allopurinol in the future.
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« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2011, 11:01:19 PM »

I also take allopurinol. I've never had an attack of gout, but had high levels of uric acid in my blood work (which is an indicator that gout might occur). So I was put on the medicine preventively (I don't think that's a word...oh well).  It appears to have been working so far...knock on wood.
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« Reply #4 on: October 28, 2011, 01:09:40 AM »

About 12 years ago, I had what turned out to be my first gout attack, and it was horrible.  As time went on, I had several other attacks, the last being 7 years ago...in my knee.  I always assumed it was because of my crap kidney function, and that does seem to be the case.  I was also put on allopurinol like other posters, and like them, I never had another attack.

I had never heard of prednisone as a treatment for gout.  I thougth allopurinol and a course of colchicine (sp?) were the standard treatments.
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« Reply #5 on: October 28, 2011, 06:15:23 AM »

Yeah, I'm not really sure why he gave me prednisone. He didn't seem all that worried about it and like I said, he wanted me to take the prednisone for 4 days and if it doesn't get better, to call. The pain isn't even in my big toe, it's mostly right where my second toe from my big toe stops and the top of my foot starts. It feels a lot better this morning, so I don't know.
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« Reply #6 on: October 28, 2011, 06:31:34 AM »

I had my first attack of gout at age 24 and have pretty much been on allopurinol ever since. Early-onset gout is actually a feature of my particular kidney disease; my cousins started getting gout when they were 8 or 9 years old. I wouldn't wish it on anyone!

Seems kind of strange the doc put you on prednisone; colchicine is the standard for acute attacks (at least it was at the time I was getting them). Sounds to me, too, like you might need to look into having your neph start you on allopurinol. (BTW, you never want to take allopurinol for an acute attack, because it will make it WORSE. No one needs that!)

It's also not limited to just the big toe, though that seems to be the most common place to get it. I've gotten it in my hands, and you can also get it where your ear attaches to your head. OUCH.

Thankfully I haven't had gout in years. Knock wood.
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« Reply #7 on: October 28, 2011, 07:36:20 AM »

I've battled gout since 2003.  I too was put on prednisone for gout attacks, I had 3 of them over a month-month and a half. It worked, the pain and swelling went away. I then went on allupurinol too.  All was good until early April this year, when I had the mother-f*#ker of all gout attacks - in both knees at one time.  I called the dr for a pred Rx, managed to get to the pharmacy to pick it up, and waited for the relief to set in. I was so happy when it did!  Now that I have been on D since April, I discontinued my allupurinol and have not had a gout attack since.  I probably should get that checked...

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« Reply #8 on: October 28, 2011, 11:16:13 AM »

I'm another one in the Allupurinol camp. That seems to keep things pretty much under control. For the times it flairs up any way, I have colcrys that I take immediately and every half hour after until it lessens. Seems to keep me pretty much under control. And I do have an RX of prednizone just in case.
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« Reply #9 on: October 28, 2011, 08:13:54 PM »

My doctor thought I had gout and put me on Allopurionol... broke out in the worst rash EVER!  Found out I actually have RA (Rheumatoid Arthritis), it's in remission since having my son... I would definitely see your doctor if it doesn't go away. :grouphug;
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« Reply #10 on: October 29, 2011, 10:39:17 PM »

I've had a couple of gout attacks.  Thank God I haven't felt one for awhile.  I never knew the big toe could hurt so much. >:D
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« Reply #11 on: October 30, 2011, 05:36:58 AM »

My husband had Gout once so far (on dialysis 4 years). I also see it looks like others take allopurinol for it and he has that in the cabinet as weel so it must be for the Gout. (too many to keep up with lol) Anyway, I learned the Gout is a build up of Ureic acid that turns into a sharp, cyrstalized, pieces that cut into your tissues and that's why it's so painful. Most commonly effects the big toe but can effect other parts of the body including the elbow. Redness and a hot sensation are a symptom. Hope you get some relief soon!
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« Reply #12 on: October 30, 2011, 08:07:48 AM »

Been taking the prednisone like I was told, today will be the 4th and final day. The swelling and pain has gone done tremendously and I can walk flat on my foot. Hopefully I won't even have another attack :S
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